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		<title>By: new world border &#187; Welcome</title>
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		<dc:creator>new world border &#187; Welcome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fulfilling Forged Prophecies [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pop Occulture  &#187; Hopi End Times Prophecy</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/04/20/fulfilling-forged-prophecies/comment-page-1/#comment-6669</link>
		<dc:creator>Pop Occulture  &#187; Hopi End Times Prophecy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 16:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to check).  	Really though, this is an integral component of how prophecies work. From the papal prophecies of Malachy to the Biblical Book of Daniel, the vast m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to check).  	Really though, this is an integral component of how prophecies work. From the papal prophecies of Malachy to the Biblical Book of Daniel, the vast m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; Daniel 11:14</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/04/20/fulfilling-forged-prophecies/comment-page-1/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; Daniel 11:14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 18:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] r to break out in Jerusalem, ushering in the coming wrath of God. As we talked about in my Fulfilling Forged Prophecies article: 	[&#8230;] Nobody ever said the  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] r to break out in Jerusalem, ushering in the coming wrath of God. As we talked about in my Fulfilling Forged Prophecies article: 	[&#8230;] Nobody ever said the  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tonyaustin2003</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyaustin2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add a pennysworth... the cardinals voted for the wrong man.  Had they followed the prophecies of Malachi and Nostradamus and a few others, Lustiger would have been chosen because he
alone is a Parisian and was once a Jew.  The jewish connection, which Ratzi doesn't have, is necessary because 'Gloria Olivae' enotes a jewish connection- the olive being the symbol of the Jews as well as the Olivetans.  Lustiger has an Olivetan connection- Ratzi does not. This can only be redeemed by Ratzi using his position to bring about a Jewish-Catholic rapprochement, unlikely as it may seem today.  Otherwise, his taking the name of Benedict is meaningless or just an attempt to portray himself as the right man.  His election was hasty and may not be allowed to stand- you can guess how. It depends what h says and if his war record stands up to scrutiny. It appears the timeline is false or concocted as are his weak excuses. Some blogs say that he cashes in his chips before WW3, assumed to commence in 2012.  What that Mayan date has to do with anything beats me... it has never been accurately checked or verified.  One dumb  believer copies from the last.  In fact, WW3 starts in 2007 as several sites will inform you.. just search WW3 2007 and see for yourself. Coincidentally or not, the Catholic church is defunct about 2012 but only resurrects itself to inflict more lies and evil than it has managed in the 2000 years to date. One more event for your consideration... WW4 starts 2043.  I first saw tht written down in 1982 but you go check the sources for yourself, if you can.  That's 5the real Armageddon when 1/3 of the world's population dies.  Dinna ye fash yeselves aboot Ratzi, ye ken?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add a pennysworth&#8230; the cardinals voted for the wrong man.  Had they followed the prophecies of Malachi and Nostradamus and a few others, Lustiger would have been chosen because he<br />
alone is a Parisian and was once a Jew.  The jewish connection, which Ratzi doesn&#8217;t have, is necessary because &#8216;Gloria Olivae&#8217; enotes a jewish connection- the olive being the symbol of the Jews as well as the Olivetans.  Lustiger has an Olivetan connection- Ratzi does not. This can only be redeemed by Ratzi using his position to bring about a Jewish-Catholic rapprochement, unlikely as it may seem today.  Otherwise, his taking the name of Benedict is meaningless or just an attempt to portray himself as the right man.  His election was hasty and may not be allowed to stand- you can guess how. It depends what h says and if his war record stands up to scrutiny. It appears the timeline is false or concocted as are his weak excuses. Some blogs say that he cashes in his chips before WW3, assumed to commence in 2012.  What that Mayan date has to do with anything beats me&#8230; it has never been accurately checked or verified.  One dumb  believer copies from the last.  In fact, WW3 starts in 2007 as several sites will inform you.. just search WW3 2007 and see for yourself. Coincidentally or not, the Catholic church is defunct about 2012 but only resurrects itself to inflict more lies and evil than it has managed in the 2000 years to date. One more event for your consideration&#8230; WW4 starts 2043.  I first saw tht written down in 1982 but you go check the sources for yourself, if you can.  That&#8217;s 5the real Armageddon when 1/3 of the world&#8217;s population dies.  Dinna ye fash yeselves aboot Ratzi, ye ken?</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; Prophecy for Retards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; Prophecy for Retards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 05:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 	Hm, debunk Malachy&#8217;s prophecies&#8230; I suppose you are refering to my post &#8220;Fulfilling Forged Prophecies&#8221; or the post on which that was base [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 	Hm, debunk Malachy&#8217;s prophecies&#8230; I suppose you are refering to my post &#8220;Fulfilling Forged Prophecies&#8221; or the post on which that was base [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting reading your comments. Perhaps we all lead ourselves into fulfilling prophecies by what we read. I'm sure you get many replies to this site regarding peoples own opinions. Well mine is that if the Bible is truth (which I believe is) then the second coming is drawing nigh. I have looked at many prohecies regarding Christs return and there is none that I am aware of that predicted His return after 2010 (hmmm) I personally don't believe it will be before then, however as stated in the Bible "no man knoweth the day nor the hour when the Son of Man cometh." I beleive its soon, but then again how soon is soon. The fact of the matter is are we ready to meet Him (Just food for thought).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting reading your comments. Perhaps we all lead ourselves into fulfilling prophecies by what we read. I&#8217;m sure you get many replies to this site regarding peoples own opinions. Well mine is that if the Bible is truth (which I believe is) then the second coming is drawing nigh. I have looked at many prohecies regarding Christs return and there is none that I am aware of that predicted His return after 2010 (hmmm) I personally don&#8217;t believe it will be before then, however as stated in the Bible &#8220;no man knoweth the day nor the hour when the Son of Man cometh.&#8221; I beleive its soon, but then again how soon is soon. The fact of the matter is are we ready to meet Him (Just food for thought).</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey thanks for your comments. im happy that youre connecting with the stuff im talking about. 

if you want to look at the church intentionally exploiting "prophetic" material, look no farther than the &lt;a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/02/mysteries-of-virgin-mary-at-fatima.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;marian apparitions at fatima&lt;/a&gt;. i personally find it pretty much impossible to believe that the virgin mary herself would descend from the sky in order to tell three shepherd children that russia was evil. it makes no damn sense at all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey thanks for your comments. im happy that youre connecting with the stuff im talking about. </p>
<p>if you want to look at the church intentionally exploiting &#8220;prophetic&#8221; material, look no farther than the <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/02/mysteries-of-virgin-mary-at-fatima.html" rel="nofollow">marian apparitions at fatima</a>. i personally find it pretty much impossible to believe that the virgin mary herself would descend from the sky in order to tell three shepherd children that russia was evil. it makes no damn sense at all.</p>
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		<title>By: muddyslush</title>
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		<dc:creator>muddyslush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to say that I just happened across this site a few days ago at a point in my life where I'm really wrestling with religion and faith as both authentic and constructed experiences, and I'm really into the things you've been saying on this site about religious experience being socially constructed, and particularly in this article the maxim that the authenticity of the document (in this case, the prophecy) is less relevant than the impact it has on the lives of believers. It's just really awesome.

To be cynical for a moment, you have to wonder to what extent some of these things are purposely exploited by the Catholic church. The almost-eerily fitting designations of the last two popes have a lot to do with external factors that may or may not be mystical in origin, but so far the only real evidence that there is for Rottweiler being Gloria Olivae is that he chose the name Benedict, and the Benedictines believed this pope would come from their order. Was he a Benedictine, though? I believe not. So all the "coincidence" so far is a name that he chose, or was chosen for him, through some method concealed from the general public. 

One of the themes of the Christian apocalypse is that it's more or less unpredictable, and Christians have to constantly be on their guard that it could happen any moment, and not let their beliefs or their faith slip in case tomorrow is the day it happens. But as time goes on and the apocalypse doesn't happen, the urgency slips, and the paranoid reinforcement of religious fervor relaxes. In a time of crisis for the church, when they want to reinvigorate the faithful and bring them back in line, it seems like a useful tactic to find ways to keep that urgency going. Any Catholic that knows of the prophecy--and if there's one thing that Catholics are good at, it's knowing when the apocalypse is going to happen--is going to latch onto these signs and take them as reminders that they need to get their affairs in order in case it's really going to go down this time.

And even if it's not a deliberate political exploitation by the church, it could still as easily be a conscious factor in the decision-making process. If Rottweiler knows the prophecy and knows where he'd ostensibly fall into it, and he more or less believes in it, then he might feel the need to abide by it in his own way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to say that I just happened across this site a few days ago at a point in my life where I&#8217;m really wrestling with religion and faith as both authentic and constructed experiences, and I&#8217;m really into the things you&#8217;ve been saying on this site about religious experience being socially constructed, and particularly in this article the maxim that the authenticity of the document (in this case, the prophecy) is less relevant than the impact it has on the lives of believers. It&#8217;s just really awesome.</p>
<p>To be cynical for a moment, you have to wonder to what extent some of these things are purposely exploited by the Catholic church. The almost-eerily fitting designations of the last two popes have a lot to do with external factors that may or may not be mystical in origin, but so far the only real evidence that there is for Rottweiler being Gloria Olivae is that he chose the name Benedict, and the Benedictines believed this pope would come from their order. Was he a Benedictine, though? I believe not. So all the &#8220;coincidence&#8221; so far is a name that he chose, or was chosen for him, through some method concealed from the general public. </p>
<p>One of the themes of the Christian apocalypse is that it&#8217;s more or less unpredictable, and Christians have to constantly be on their guard that it could happen any moment, and not let their beliefs or their faith slip in case tomorrow is the day it happens. But as time goes on and the apocalypse doesn&#8217;t happen, the urgency slips, and the paranoid reinforcement of religious fervor relaxes. In a time of crisis for the church, when they want to reinvigorate the faithful and bring them back in line, it seems like a useful tactic to find ways to keep that urgency going. Any Catholic that knows of the prophecy&#8211;and if there&#8217;s one thing that Catholics are good at, it&#8217;s knowing when the apocalypse is going to happen&#8211;is going to latch onto these signs and take them as reminders that they need to get their affairs in order in case it&#8217;s really going to go down this time.</p>
<p>And even if it&#8217;s not a deliberate political exploitation by the church, it could still as easily be a conscious factor in the decision-making process. If Rottweiler knows the prophecy and knows where he&#8217;d ostensibly fall into it, and he more or less believes in it, then he might feel the need to abide by it in his own way.</p>
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