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		<title>By: Be healthy don&#8217;t live silly life man - Pop Occulture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Be healthy don&#8217;t live silly life man - Pop Occulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Once I started thinking down this road though, a bunch of reference points and symbol systems suddenly collapsed together on me (this is what the Singularity will really mean - massive implosion of reference points). This mirror marketing system that looks like you (data body? avatar?) - well, um, I don&#8217;t know how to say this, but uh&#8230; this already is you. This is what we mean when we use words like &#8220;ego&#8221; and &#8220;body&#8221; and for the most part &#8220;mind&#8221; (reactive mind maybe would be more precise here? not sure&#8230;). Those things already are a completely customized vehicle through which reality is marketed to you in such a way as ONLY YOU will appreciate it, and only you will experience it and those patterns of usage will never be replicated, at least not completely. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Once I started thinking down this road though, a bunch of reference points and symbol systems suddenly collapsed together on me (this is what the Singularity will really mean - massive implosion of reference points). This mirror marketing system that looks like you (data body? avatar?) - well, um, I don&#8217;t know how to say this, but uh&#8230; this already is you. This is what we mean when we use words like &#8220;ego&#8221; and &#8220;body&#8221; and for the most part &#8220;mind&#8221; (reactive mind maybe would be more precise here? not sure&#8230;). Those things already are a completely customized vehicle through which reality is marketed to you in such a way as ONLY YOU will appreciate it, and only you will experience it and those patterns of usage will never be replicated, at least not completely. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; The External Soul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; The External Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 18:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 		The other day I came across a nice mythological parallel to our discussion of the &#8220;data body&#8221; that electronic phantasm, the doppleganger that each of us  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 		The other day I came across a nice mythological parallel to our discussion of the &#8220;data body&#8221; that electronic phantasm, the doppleganger that each of us  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Infoprophecy &#187; The camera, the car and the fear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infoprophecy &#187; The camera, the car and the fear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  at all, only what we come across as; our societal representations. In Timâ€™s post on the Data Body (discussed later), he brings up the idea (via a reader) of the ego [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  at all, only what we come across as; our societal representations. In Timâ€™s post on the Data Body (discussed later), he brings up the idea (via a reader) of the ego [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2005 04:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is a great entry, Tim.

This presents many beneficial possibilities for the future, too. Something I've really garnered from Ramsey Dukes has been that the only thing fearing the future leads to is paranoia. Embrace this and think of it as a gift. When you play a game, back in the day, you used to get one life, one character, one story.

Now unless the people of today are really connecting with the Self, they're still just playing with that one life, one story. Their representation of themself, as ego, is a constructed reflection of social stimuli and the odd personal experience, adding a touch of flavour. This data body seems interesting from a transhumanist point of view because it allows you to create more than one player for yourself.

While I am intrigues to learn more, as the only way to learn to play with multiple data bodies would be to initially become aware of the Self as pilot, the fragmentation possible by the malleable way of approaching these data bodies should allow for more glimpses between the cracks â€” more abstractions of perspective and, ultimately, a chance to look beyond the looking glass. Sorta reminds me of the new Nine Inch Nails song, "Right Where It Belongs."

There can never be absolute oppression of relation to the Self. It's not possible. Balance seems to be the natural way, and we just have to look at the benefits of using this new development to construct methods of ontological awareness.

Also, I am a firm believer that we are on the verge of downloadable memories, experiences, and such, so the whole notion of how we interact with our egos are about to go to shit anyhow. It's going to be a Lego session of building up our own stories and as we do so, we'll become more and more disillusioned what constructs we're enslaved by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is a great entry, Tim.</p>
<p>This presents many beneficial possibilities for the future, too. Something I&#8217;ve really garnered from Ramsey Dukes has been that the only thing fearing the future leads to is paranoia. Embrace this and think of it as a gift. When you play a game, back in the day, you used to get one life, one character, one story.</p>
<p>Now unless the people of today are really connecting with the Self, they&#8217;re still just playing with that one life, one story. Their representation of themself, as ego, is a constructed reflection of social stimuli and the odd personal experience, adding a touch of flavour. This data body seems interesting from a transhumanist point of view because it allows you to create more than one player for yourself.</p>
<p>While I am intrigues to learn more, as the only way to learn to play with multiple data bodies would be to initially become aware of the Self as pilot, the fragmentation possible by the malleable way of approaching these data bodies should allow for more glimpses between the cracks â€” more abstractions of perspective and, ultimately, a chance to look beyond the looking glass. Sorta reminds me of the new Nine Inch Nails song, &#8220;Right Where It Belongs.&#8221;</p>
<p>There can never be absolute oppression of relation to the Self. It&#8217;s not possible. Balance seems to be the natural way, and we just have to look at the benefits of using this new development to construct methods of ontological awareness.</p>
<p>Also, I am a firm believer that we are on the verge of downloadable memories, experiences, and such, so the whole notion of how we interact with our egos are about to go to shit anyhow. It&#8217;s going to be a Lego session of building up our own stories and as we do so, we&#8217;ll become more and more disillusioned what constructs we&#8217;re enslaved by.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 02:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no ive ALWAYS meant to, but never get around to it...</description>
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		<title>By: ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 02:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever read Gibson's &lt;i&gt;Neuromancer&lt;/i&gt;?  A significant part of the plot has to do with the data body as you've defined it  (although Gibson calls it something else, can't remember what).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever read Gibson&#8217;s <i>Neuromancer</i>?  A significant part of the plot has to do with the data body as you&#8217;ve defined it  (although Gibson calls it something else, can&#8217;t remember what).</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 23:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not that its necessary to lie to the government, but I think it does lead to an interesting point: that if they are receptive to information from you, it offers you a chance to input information into the system. I experiment with this at work all the time (albeit a much smaller system)-- things Ive said to coworkers can work through the system and come back to me, sometimes from the boss himself, and I have a fair degree of certainty that I was the first to introduce the said information. 
Even though I am lowest on the ladder, awareness of how information travels, meme transference, pattern recognition, etc gives anyone the ability to 'program' a system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not that its necessary to lie to the government, but I think it does lead to an interesting point: that if they are receptive to information from you, it offers you a chance to input information into the system. I experiment with this at work all the time (albeit a much smaller system)&#8211; things Ive said to coworkers can work through the system and come back to me, sometimes from the boss himself, and I have a fair degree of certainty that I was the first to introduce the said information.<br />
Even though I am lowest on the ladder, awareness of how information travels, meme transference, pattern recognition, etc gives anyone the ability to &#8216;program&#8217; a system.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; Pop Tarot - Identity Theft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; Pop Tarot - Identity Theft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 22:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to do this card for quite some time. But all this talk of National ID cards and the &#8220;data body&#8221; lead me to create finally the Identity Theft card.  	In this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to do this card for quite some time. But all this talk of National ID cards and the &#8220;data body&#8221; lead me to create finally the Identity Theft card.  	In this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: N.M</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 20:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...the canary trap...

That`s the term I was looking for.</description>
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<p>That`s the term I was looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 19:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man thats a great wilson quote. sometimes that guy really comes through. as far as creating the data body out of intentional lies, i wrote about a technique for that once before, the &lt;a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/04/06/a-canary-trap/" rel="nofollow"&gt;canary trap&lt;/a&gt;. its a way to track where spam originates. its pretty simple too. part of the problem though i think is that people can twist the data body any way they wanted to. like if they wanted to make a court case against you. no problem. seems like a general rule of thumb: &lt;strong&gt;the further your identified self gets away from your actual self, the easier it becomes to manipulate. &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man thats a great wilson quote. sometimes that guy really comes through. as far as creating the data body out of intentional lies, i wrote about a technique for that once before, the <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/04/06/a-canary-trap/" rel="nofollow">canary trap</a>. its a way to track where spam originates. its pretty simple too. part of the problem though i think is that people can twist the data body any way they wanted to. like if they wanted to make a court case against you. no problem. seems like a general rule of thumb: <strong>the further your identified self gets away from your actual self, the easier it becomes to manipulate. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: N.M</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I`ll start with a quote:

â€œWherever I go I ask audiences if anybody there would swear that they would tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth to someone who was a government employee. Nobody ever raises their hand! Everybody lies to the government. We all want as little to do with them as possible. So thatâ€™s the first level of government corruption; the accumulation of all the lies people tell to people just above them in the hierarchy.â€ 
- Robert Anton Wilson

Taking that into consideration, one way to subvert a Data Body would be to corrupt it by leaving inconsistant information.

If you track your submitted information, like finding a mole, you can then trace back the origin of the person who is using your Data Body by the cyphered information you left in your data.

If someone is attepmting to use your Data Body against you in court for example, the uncollaborative information would fall inconclusive.

In the end it all depends on the amount of clout that people allow this virtual ego / shadow. 

Consider the power we`ve allowed to 2 dimensional data in the past, compaired to the 3 dimensional data with consatant bio, dna, face and movement recongnition that is evolving daily.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I`ll start with a quote:</p>
<p>â€œWherever I go I ask audiences if anybody there would swear that they would tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth to someone who was a government employee. Nobody ever raises their hand! Everybody lies to the government. We all want as little to do with them as possible. So thatâ€™s the first level of government corruption; the accumulation of all the lies people tell to people just above them in the hierarchy.â€<br />
- Robert Anton Wilson</p>
<p>Taking that into consideration, one way to subvert a Data Body would be to corrupt it by leaving inconsistant information.</p>
<p>If you track your submitted information, like finding a mole, you can then trace back the origin of the person who is using your Data Body by the cyphered information you left in your data.</p>
<p>If someone is attepmting to use your Data Body against you in court for example, the uncollaborative information would fall inconclusive.</p>
<p>In the end it all depends on the amount of clout that people allow this virtual ego / shadow. </p>
<p>Consider the power we`ve allowed to 2 dimensional data in the past, compaired to the 3 dimensional data with consatant bio, dna, face and movement recongnition that is evolving daily.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 16:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Whatâ€™s that Stephen King book where a car comes to life?"

Maximum Overdrive?? It was about big 18 wheelers coming to life or something... Emilio Estevez was in the movie, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whatâ€™s that Stephen King book where a car comes to life?&#8221;</p>
<p>Maximum Overdrive?? It was about big 18 wheelers coming to life or something&#8230; Emilio Estevez was in the movie, I think.</p>
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