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		<title>By: Summer Harvest &#187; The Best of FP: The Fear Series</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-73399</link>
		<dc:creator>Summer Harvest &#187; The Best of FP: The Fear Series</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 16:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tim and Dan both have exceptional posts about the encroaching surveillance state, both coming to the excellent conclusion that the best way to approach the monitors of the Authorities (be they temporal or Archonic) is without fear. Here&#8217;s a great excerpt from Dan&#8217;s post that illustrates the point: So in light of that view it seems that police-state style surveillance merely re-ignites issues that are inherent in our human makeup and always have been. Those at different psychological stages are the ones who are disagreeing. But I still donâ€™t think this justifies the surveillance. Thereâ€™s one more issue, which I think explains why our rulers want this surveillance and why we must â€œneutraliseâ€ it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tim and Dan both have exceptional posts about the encroaching surveillance state, both coming to the excellent conclusion that the best way to approach the monitors of the Authorities (be they temporal or Archonic) is without fear. Here&#8217;s a great excerpt from Dan&#8217;s post that illustrates the point: So in light of that view it seems that police-state style surveillance merely re-ignites issues that are inherent in our human makeup and always have been. Those at different psychological stages are the ones who are disagreeing. But I still donâ€™t think this justifies the surveillance. Thereâ€™s one more issue, which I think explains why our rulers want this surveillance and why we must â€œneutraliseâ€ it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yes Man</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 11:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the book "Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation as Political Control". The author is kind of weird, but it's a goldmine of information, tho you don't necessarly agree wit his conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the book &#8220;Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation as Political Control&#8221;. The author is kind of weird, but it&#8217;s a goldmine of information, tho you don&#8217;t necessarly agree wit his conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Yes Man</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 11:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm, Kinsey did not examine the sex lives of "ordinary" people. He mainly interviewed prostitutes and similar people. His whole research was seriously flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm, Kinsey did not examine the sex lives of &#8220;ordinary&#8221; people. He mainly interviewed prostitutes and similar people. His whole research was seriously flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: bigfoot</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-867</link>
		<dc:creator>bigfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 07:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Kinsey examining the sex lives of everyday people and finding out what freaks people really were, even "back in the day" before "those people" were conducting their business in front of God and everybody. 

God played a really mean trick on some poor, poor monkeys a long time ago.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Kinsey examining the sex lives of everyday people and finding out what freaks people really were, even &#8220;back in the day&#8221; before &#8220;those people&#8221; were conducting their business in front of God and everybody. </p>
<p>God played a really mean trick on some poor, poor monkeys a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: human</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-861</link>
		<dc:creator>human</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 00:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kill fear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kill fear!</p>
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		<title>By: Eris</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Eris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 22:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all reminds me of what Grant Morrison had to say at the Disinfo convention in 2000 (you can find the clip on emule or on a dvd).He said something about the vast amount of street surveillance cameras being set up in the UK, and that if 'they' are watching us anyway,we (the mutants) should take the opportunity to show the powers-that-be what we are really like and that we are not afraid.We needed to shove our uniqueness back in their faces and show them just how weird &#38; wonderful we are and how we shall inevitably overcome by being fearless. Something like that,anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all reminds me of what Grant Morrison had to say at the Disinfo convention in 2000 (you can find the clip on emule or on a dvd).He said something about the vast amount of street surveillance cameras being set up in the UK, and that if &#8216;they&#8217; are watching us anyway,we (the mutants) should take the opportunity to show the powers-that-be what we are really like and that we are not afraid.We needed to shove our uniqueness back in their faces and show them just how weird &amp; wonderful we are and how we shall inevitably overcome by being fearless. Something like that,anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: fantastic planet &#187; Fear, Surveillance and the Alien Other</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>fantastic planet &#187; Fear, Surveillance and the Alien Other</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 20:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  from dandelions to evil ultradimensional entities all in one day.  Viva verisimillitude! 	Tim and Dan both have exceptional posts about the encroaching surveillance state, b [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  from dandelions to evil ultradimensional entities all in one day.  Viva verisimillitude! 	Tim and Dan both have exceptional posts about the encroaching surveillance state, b [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Infoprophecy &#187; The camera, the car and the fear</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Infoprophecy &#187; The camera, the car and the fear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 18:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]      May 20, 2005         The camera, the car and the fear                       	Tim recently posted something about some guy he was sat next to on a train on his journ [...]</description>
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<p>    May 20, 2005         The camera, the car and the fear</p>
<p>                 	Tim recently posted something about some guy he was sat next to on a train on his journ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 11:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That idea of us becoming demi-gods to our surveyors is awesome! We could start a revolution from the inside. Our actions and our "being" would rekindle that spark that lies in all the guys watching us, like you said, that repressed spirituality or mentality...

I think i'll post on this because I need to sort it out in my head, it's running around disrupting things in my mind ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That idea of us becoming demi-gods to our surveyors is awesome! We could start a revolution from the inside. Our actions and our &#8220;being&#8221; would rekindle that spark that lies in all the guys watching us, like you said, that repressed spirituality or mentality&#8230;</p>
<p>I think i&#8217;ll post on this because I need to sort it out in my head, it&#8217;s running around disrupting things in my mind ha.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 04:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah thats what i was trying to say about the rules and borders being redrawn. if youre always making sure that youre "inside the box" you won't even notice as the box becomes smaller and smaller. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah thats what i was trying to say about the rules and borders being redrawn. if youre always making sure that youre &#8220;inside the box&#8221; you won&#8217;t even notice as the box becomes smaller and smaller.</p>
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		<title>By: Haeresis</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Haeresis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 02:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the "I'm not doing anything wrong" mentality is that they will be, because the more control is gotten, the more is desired- and the more wil become "wrong."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the &#8220;I&#8217;m not doing anything wrong&#8221; mentality is that they will be, because the more control is gotten, the more is desired- and the more wil become &#8220;wrong.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/19/nothing-to-hide/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..Which reminds me of the fab graffitti seen on a wall at an antiglobalisation blockade:
'Your spectacle is my adventure'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..Which reminds me of the fab graffitti seen on a wall at an antiglobalisation blockade:<br />
&#8216;Your spectacle is my adventure&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 00:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know what you're saying. i dont feel like ive totally refuted that argument, but i've taken a step in doing so. 

your comment about spooks watching us through a camera has also got me thinking... what if we could somehow "inspire" the government creeps who would be monitoring our lives? what if we for them became celebrity demi-gods who acted out for them the fantasies that they were too repressed or psychologically underdeveloped to enact themselves?

it would almost be like we were their dreams, and somehow we were trying to spiritually redeem them through our actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know what you&#8217;re saying. i dont feel like ive totally refuted that argument, but i&#8217;ve taken a step in doing so. </p>
<p>your comment about spooks watching us through a camera has also got me thinking&#8230; what if we could somehow &#8220;inspire&#8221; the government creeps who would be monitoring our lives? what if we for them became celebrity demi-gods who acted out for them the fantasies that they were too repressed or psychologically underdeveloped to enact themselves?</p>
<p>it would almost be like we were their dreams, and somehow we were trying to spiritually redeem them through our actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 23:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see what you're getting at here. Thoughts like "why do i care if they watch me, im not doing anything wrong?" have always got me aswell. I also got annoyed when people said this, although I couldnt explain to them why.

And now I feel annoyed because I can't write something which counters that quote...

But "The very weird idiosyncracies and inane details of our lives are the very things which make us who we are." This is true, but those weird bits are not meant to be experienced by spooks on the other end of cam right? It's not... natural?

Hmph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see what you&#8217;re getting at here. Thoughts like &#8220;why do i care if they watch me, im not doing anything wrong?&#8221; have always got me aswell. I also got annoyed when people said this, although I couldnt explain to them why.</p>
<p>And now I feel annoyed because I can&#8217;t write something which counters that quote&#8230;</p>
<p>But &#8220;The very weird idiosyncracies and inane details of our lives are the very things which make us who we are.&#8221; This is true, but those weird bits are not meant to be experienced by spooks on the other end of cam right? It&#8217;s not&#8230; natural?</p>
<p>Hmph.</p>
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