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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; The Death of Sci-Fi</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/05/24/conspiracy-theory-is-the-new-sci-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; The Death of Sci-Fi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 21:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jon Headlee hit the nail on the head there. The beauty of the self-aware Hero's Journey is that as one becomes aware of the mythic structures prevalent in all aspects of hir life â€” on the three levels of introspection, interpersonal, and social interactions â€” then one can fully explore the potential and strength that comes from understanding myth.

The difficult part is actually using one's will to push on in the face of hardship, to fully embrace and endure those "Dark Nights of the Soul" and be selfless enough to embrace the inevitable change that will be brought with the succession of such so-called Journeys.

Sci-fi and fantasy, among other fictions (e.g. Fight Club, Jacob's Ladder) give back to us what monotheism has taken: a symbolic map to the ontological game. Joseph Campbell is probably closer to a saint than most ordained in that he laid out a path for all of us to explore our potentiality, to continue pushing, changing, growing, etc.

What I have found, being 26 and decently aware of my involvement with the myths that surround me in my community, job, culture, etc, is that every time I embrace a new angle to my Hero's Journey, I become more a) selfless and less discerning between what many consider black &#38; white situations, b) curious as to the outcome, both in manifest reality and as character shifts within myself, and c) I do, in fact, bring back the "elixir" and share my inspirations with others in my circle that care to listen. My confidence increases with the advent of more experience with life situations, and that combines with knowledge of my constant pursuits to grant me that ultimate gift: wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jon Headlee hit the nail on the head there. The beauty of the self-aware Hero&#8217;s Journey is that as one becomes aware of the mythic structures prevalent in all aspects of hir life â€” on the three levels of introspection, interpersonal, and social interactions â€” then one can fully explore the potential and strength that comes from understanding myth.</p>
<p>The difficult part is actually using one&#8217;s will to push on in the face of hardship, to fully embrace and endure those &#8220;Dark Nights of the Soul&#8221; and be selfless enough to embrace the inevitable change that will be brought with the succession of such so-called Journeys.</p>
<p>Sci-fi and fantasy, among other fictions (e.g. Fight Club, Jacob&#8217;s Ladder) give back to us what monotheism has taken: a symbolic map to the ontological game. Joseph Campbell is probably closer to a saint than most ordained in that he laid out a path for all of us to explore our potentiality, to continue pushing, changing, growing, etc.</p>
<p>What I have found, being 26 and decently aware of my involvement with the myths that surround me in my community, job, culture, etc, is that every time I embrace a new angle to my Hero&#8217;s Journey, I become more a) selfless and less discerning between what many consider black &amp; white situations, b) curious as to the outcome, both in manifest reality and as character shifts within myself, and c) I do, in fact, bring back the &#8220;elixir&#8221; and share my inspirations with others in my circle that care to listen. My confidence increases with the advent of more experience with life situations, and that combines with knowledge of my constant pursuits to grant me that ultimate gift: wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: hf</title>
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		<dc:creator>hf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 20:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Has my gnostic journey thru sci-fi, conspiracy theory and occult worlds been a subconscious attempt at self-initiation in the absence of such rites?&lt;/i&gt;

I now see much of my fantasy-inspired playing as a clumsy form of 'magick' (braodly defined). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Has my gnostic journey thru sci-fi, conspiracy theory and occult worlds been a subconscious attempt at self-initiation in the absence of such rites?</i></p>
<p>I now see much of my fantasy-inspired playing as a clumsy form of &#8216;magick&#8217; (braodly defined).</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; Sci-Fi: Cognitive-Dissonance-Buster!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; Sci-Fi: Cognitive-Dissonance-Buster!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 07:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 				I was just speaking with my friend John (who writes New World Border) about this whole sci-fi/conspiracy thing I started in on. We came up with a pret [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jon Headlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Headlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 05:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I believe Sci-Fi to be the resurrection of acceptable mythology, and I emphasize acceptable.  Mythology has never left us, but it was nearly wiped out, as Joseph Campbell pointed out in an essay from the late 60s.  It was nearly wiped out by science and monotheism (Campbell specifically pointed out Christianity).

To illuminate, what made up the old mythology of tribalistic, Occidental, and Oriental belief structures?  A heavy sense of the metaphysical.  Spirits, demons, gods and demi-gods, etc.  All of these, though, were connected to nature, connected to this world.  They controlled and could be controlled (magick, etc).  If they weren't found in natural objects like the trees, the sky, the ocean, they were found in the stars.

And the base myth of mythology, the myth that allows a belief structure to hold any amount of power, is the hero myth.  Metaphysical gods are essential to the occult belief structures because a mortal human hero could not pass into the realm of the divine unless the divine was somehow connected to the natural realm (thus why the Greek gods are on Mt. Olympus).  If you kill the hero myth, the occult, or anything structured around a mythos, falls to shreds.

Thus when science showed that the other planets were just like earth, just another planet, and showed that this solar system is just like everything else, the metaphysical gods of the cosmos were destroyed.  Science later expelled the metaphysical nature from everything else in this world.  Everything had been "explained" by our reason and intellect.

Monotheism, and specifically the rise of Christianity, further drives this point home.  With a supernatural god, there is no connection between man and the divine.  God is above the natural realm, god is above man, and man is petty and worthless.  Furthermore, instead of the hero myth being used as a metaphor for man's ability to rise above, the hero myth of Christianity, Christ himself, kills the hero myth.  They call him "the one, true myth", the saviour.  Man supposedly can't rise above, but must instead rely on something else to be saved.  This notion, added with science and reason kills the hero, and turns the occult into an "evil" pawn of "Satan".  This is the basis for the story of Don Quixote; the death of the hero.

Sci-Fi offers, in this day and age, a way for the occult, for the mythos to work its way back into the human consciousness (it was always there in the unconscious mind, waiting to be set free).  By working in the field of science fiction (as well as fantasy), one does not have to utilize the singular, absolute, and tyrannical views of a monotheistic setting.  Religion doesn't have to play a role, and if it does (as in the case of the Jedi/Force in Star Wars), it doesn't have to conform to a specific earthly religion.  In Sci-Fi, almost anything is acceptable, nowadays, because we are slowly discovering that, as you said, sci-fi is almost prophetic.  Perhaps it is merely the creative and intuitive right brain reaching out to the logical and narrow-minded left brain.  Through science, the creativity of the human mind, the mythos, has found a way to relate to the reason-based left.  Thus mythology has returned in an acceptable venue.  The gods are no longer necessarily "gods", but perhaps aliens who have set themselves up as "gods" (Stargate, Babylon 5, etc).  Thus the sci-fi hero pushes into the realm of the alien, the advanced (the machines in the Matrix Revolutions) to save humanity.  To save humanity we must move beyond just Earth, we must move into the realm we do not currently understand (psychadelics and the circuits of the right brain?).

I said acceptable because Sci-Fi has become acceptable through authors like Orson Welles and Jules Verne, authors who stretched our imaginations and led the frontier of science.  Fantasy has never become fully accepted because it doesn't quite relate to "reality".  It's also too easy for people negatively stigmatize those connected to fantasy because of the term fantasy (whereas sci-fi has the concrete and reasonable term science attached to it).  Likewise, conspiracy theory has a negative stigma attached to it, as well as a few psychological "disorders", so it isn't necessarily accepted.

Personally I believe that conspiracy theory won't, or at least, shouldn't replace Sci-Fi.  I believe that we need sci-fi, fantasy, the occult, and conspiracy theory to push the boundaries of our potential.  We have to use ALL OF THEM.  To rely on just one would, IMO, result in failure, failure to rise above, to fulfill the hero's journey/quest (which is a part of all 4).  

I'll end with this.  What if humanity's potential is actually infinity, so would call it reunification with the World Soul, SELF, Tao, etc, while others would call it godhood.  Same thing.  What if that was humanity potential?  What if the Gnostics were right?  What if Christ came to show us HOW to become like gods (or reunite with the indescribable self)?  What if myth is just a way of expanding our horizons and identifying the Archons, the Demi-urge, the "evil", etc?  What if through gradually expanding, say, sci-fi (and then the old parts become reality), we reach the point where instead of becoming very powerful Jedi, we become ALL-Powerful entities, infinite entities?  If the mind can dream it, can we reach it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I believe Sci-Fi to be the resurrection of acceptable mythology, and I emphasize acceptable.  Mythology has never left us, but it was nearly wiped out, as Joseph Campbell pointed out in an essay from the late 60s.  It was nearly wiped out by science and monotheism (Campbell specifically pointed out Christianity).</p>
<p>To illuminate, what made up the old mythology of tribalistic, Occidental, and Oriental belief structures?  A heavy sense of the metaphysical.  Spirits, demons, gods and demi-gods, etc.  All of these, though, were connected to nature, connected to this world.  They controlled and could be controlled (magick, etc).  If they weren&#8217;t found in natural objects like the trees, the sky, the ocean, they were found in the stars.</p>
<p>And the base myth of mythology, the myth that allows a belief structure to hold any amount of power, is the hero myth.  Metaphysical gods are essential to the occult belief structures because a mortal human hero could not pass into the realm of the divine unless the divine was somehow connected to the natural realm (thus why the Greek gods are on Mt. Olympus).  If you kill the hero myth, the occult, or anything structured around a mythos, falls to shreds.</p>
<p>Thus when science showed that the other planets were just like earth, just another planet, and showed that this solar system is just like everything else, the metaphysical gods of the cosmos were destroyed.  Science later expelled the metaphysical nature from everything else in this world.  Everything had been &#8220;explained&#8221; by our reason and intellect.</p>
<p>Monotheism, and specifically the rise of Christianity, further drives this point home.  With a supernatural god, there is no connection between man and the divine.  God is above the natural realm, god is above man, and man is petty and worthless.  Furthermore, instead of the hero myth being used as a metaphor for man&#8217;s ability to rise above, the hero myth of Christianity, Christ himself, kills the hero myth.  They call him &#8220;the one, true myth&#8221;, the saviour.  Man supposedly can&#8217;t rise above, but must instead rely on something else to be saved.  This notion, added with science and reason kills the hero, and turns the occult into an &#8220;evil&#8221; pawn of &#8220;Satan&#8221;.  This is the basis for the story of Don Quixote; the death of the hero.</p>
<p>Sci-Fi offers, in this day and age, a way for the occult, for the mythos to work its way back into the human consciousness (it was always there in the unconscious mind, waiting to be set free).  By working in the field of science fiction (as well as fantasy), one does not have to utilize the singular, absolute, and tyrannical views of a monotheistic setting.  Religion doesn&#8217;t have to play a role, and if it does (as in the case of the Jedi/Force in Star Wars), it doesn&#8217;t have to conform to a specific earthly religion.  In Sci-Fi, almost anything is acceptable, nowadays, because we are slowly discovering that, as you said, sci-fi is almost prophetic.  Perhaps it is merely the creative and intuitive right brain reaching out to the logical and narrow-minded left brain.  Through science, the creativity of the human mind, the mythos, has found a way to relate to the reason-based left.  Thus mythology has returned in an acceptable venue.  The gods are no longer necessarily &#8220;gods&#8221;, but perhaps aliens who have set themselves up as &#8220;gods&#8221; (Stargate, Babylon 5, etc).  Thus the sci-fi hero pushes into the realm of the alien, the advanced (the machines in the Matrix Revolutions) to save humanity.  To save humanity we must move beyond just Earth, we must move into the realm we do not currently understand (psychadelics and the circuits of the right brain?).</p>
<p>I said acceptable because Sci-Fi has become acceptable through authors like Orson Welles and Jules Verne, authors who stretched our imaginations and led the frontier of science.  Fantasy has never become fully accepted because it doesn&#8217;t quite relate to &#8220;reality&#8221;.  It&#8217;s also too easy for people negatively stigmatize those connected to fantasy because of the term fantasy (whereas sci-fi has the concrete and reasonable term science attached to it).  Likewise, conspiracy theory has a negative stigma attached to it, as well as a few psychological &#8220;disorders&#8221;, so it isn&#8217;t necessarily accepted.</p>
<p>Personally I believe that conspiracy theory won&#8217;t, or at least, shouldn&#8217;t replace Sci-Fi.  I believe that we need sci-fi, fantasy, the occult, and conspiracy theory to push the boundaries of our potential.  We have to use ALL OF THEM.  To rely on just one would, IMO, result in failure, failure to rise above, to fulfill the hero&#8217;s journey/quest (which is a part of all 4).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll end with this.  What if humanity&#8217;s potential is actually infinity, so would call it reunification with the World Soul, SELF, Tao, etc, while others would call it godhood.  Same thing.  What if that was humanity potential?  What if the Gnostics were right?  What if Christ came to show us HOW to become like gods (or reunite with the indescribable self)?  What if myth is just a way of expanding our horizons and identifying the Archons, the Demi-urge, the &#8220;evil&#8221;, etc?  What if through gradually expanding, say, sci-fi (and then the old parts become reality), we reach the point where instead of becoming very powerful Jedi, we become ALL-Powerful entities, infinite entities?  If the mind can dream it, can we reach it?</p>
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		<title>By: crasspastor</title>
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		<dc:creator>crasspastor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 05:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://waco.c-level.cc/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Check this out&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;C-level unveils Waco Resurrection, its first chapter of Endgames, a new 3D multiplayer computer game series based on alternative utopias and apocalyptic moments.&lt;/i&gt;

Via this &lt;a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/42251" rel="nofollow"&gt;metafilter thread&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://waco.c-level.cc/" rel="nofollow">Check this out</a>.</p>
<p><i>C-level unveils Waco Resurrection, its first chapter of Endgames, a new 3D multiplayer computer game series based on alternative utopias and apocalyptic moments.</i></p>
<p>Via this <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/42251" rel="nofollow">metafilter thread</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: crasspastor</title>
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		<dc:creator>crasspastor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 04:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh shit, I forgot about &lt;a href="http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blosxom.cgi/2005/04/18#state-of-sf" rel="nofollow"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; Stross wrote in April.  It's even better and more explicative of the conspiracy/sci-fi phenomenon.  As he says:

&lt;i&gt;For some reason, the USA didn't produce any nominees this year. As a large chunk of the nominations were received from American voters, and British voters are happy to vote for American nominees, it's clearly not a case of nationalist sour grapes. So what went wrong? Why did the smaller country, whose SF/fantasy output is dwarfed by that of the USA (much as its population is -- by a 1:5 ratio) sweep the shortlist?

Here's my speculation: American SF is going through a gloom-laden period induced by external social conditions, much as British SF did in the 1947-79 period (and differently, in the 1980-92 period). Extrapolative SF is often used by writers as a mirror for reflecting our concerns about the present on the silver screen of the future. "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and "The Puppet Masters" were artefacts of the late 1940's/early 1950's paranoia about communist infiltration. "Fugue for a Darkening Island" was a dismal if-this-goes-on dirge played to the tune of Enoch Powell. "Neuromancer" was 1980's corporate deracination hooked up to an overdose of MTV, mainlining on hidden assumptions of monetarism. When SF is at its most overtly predictive -- especially when it speaks of the impending future -- it is talking about the present, capturing the zeitgeist and projecting it forward. (It takes a very special kind of imagination to capture tomorrow's zeitgeist, and all too often it goes unnoticed because it's just too damn weird to understand.) &lt;/i&gt;

He then goes on to earnestly speculate about what's going here in America from the standpoint of having first hand experience with Thatcherism and the bonafide end of the British Empire.  Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh shit, I forgot about <a href="http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blosxom.cgi/2005/04/18#state-of-sf" rel="nofollow">this post</a> Stross wrote in April.  It&#8217;s even better and more explicative of the conspiracy/sci-fi phenomenon.  As he says:</p>
<p><i>For some reason, the USA didn&#8217;t produce any nominees this year. As a large chunk of the nominations were received from American voters, and British voters are happy to vote for American nominees, it&#8217;s clearly not a case of nationalist sour grapes. So what went wrong? Why did the smaller country, whose SF/fantasy output is dwarfed by that of the USA (much as its population is &#8212; by a 1:5 ratio) sweep the shortlist?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my speculation: American SF is going through a gloom-laden period induced by external social conditions, much as British SF did in the 1947-79 period (and differently, in the 1980-92 period). Extrapolative SF is often used by writers as a mirror for reflecting our concerns about the present on the silver screen of the future. &#8220;Invasion of the Body Snatchers&#8221; and &#8220;The Puppet Masters&#8221; were artefacts of the late 1940&#8217;s/early 1950&#8217;s paranoia about communist infiltration. &#8220;Fugue for a Darkening Island&#8221; was a dismal if-this-goes-on dirge played to the tune of Enoch Powell. &#8220;Neuromancer&#8221; was 1980&#8217;s corporate deracination hooked up to an overdose of MTV, mainlining on hidden assumptions of monetarism. When SF is at its most overtly predictive &#8212; especially when it speaks of the impending future &#8212; it is talking about the present, capturing the zeitgeist and projecting it forward. (It takes a very special kind of imagination to capture tomorrow&#8217;s zeitgeist, and all too often it goes unnoticed because it&#8217;s just too damn weird to understand.) </i></p>
<p>He then goes on to earnestly speculate about what&#8217;s going here in America from the standpoint of having first hand experience with Thatcherism and the bonafide end of the British Empire.  Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 04:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sci-fi freak since age 12. Major influences: 2001, empire strikes back, and some pulp novel about a boy who discovers heâ€™s a robot. Common theme: what if everything you knew was wrong? Sci-fi, and my intense distrust of religion and government, sent me off on the gnostic journey. Interestingly, the sci-fi I like best has a gnostic / occult element to it [pkd, matrix].

What if everything you knew was wrong? This question, practically my definition of the gnostic journey, underlies both conspiracy theory and occult genres, and is behind the best sci-fi. Because I question everything, I constantly suspect that Iâ€™m being bullshitted. Sci-fi, conspiracy and occult genres are outlets for that suspicion. They allow the exploration of alternative narratives to consensus reality. 

Science fiction became speculation when science stopped speculating and started dictating, and people realized that the appeal of sci-fi all along was not the science and technology as much as the speculation itself, and the enormous sense of scale such speculation evokes. Maybe we no longer care about science but have a resurgent interest in power and spirituality [wonder why?], hence the current popularity of conspiracy and occult genres.

I still feel 12 in a way, perhaps due to having received no initiation rites [or perhaps because I can still not be certain that Iâ€™m not a robot]. Has my gnostic journey thru sci-fi, conspiracy theory and occult worlds been a subconscious attempt at self-initiation in the absence of such rites? 

Sorry for the rant but you really got me thinking there.

Specifically, my answer to your question is yes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sci-fi freak since age 12. Major influences: 2001, empire strikes back, and some pulp novel about a boy who discovers heâ€™s a robot. Common theme: what if everything you knew was wrong? Sci-fi, and my intense distrust of religion and government, sent me off on the gnostic journey. Interestingly, the sci-fi I like best has a gnostic / occult element to it [pkd, matrix].</p>
<p>What if everything you knew was wrong? This question, practically my definition of the gnostic journey, underlies both conspiracy theory and occult genres, and is behind the best sci-fi. Because I question everything, I constantly suspect that Iâ€™m being bullshitted. Sci-fi, conspiracy and occult genres are outlets for that suspicion. They allow the exploration of alternative narratives to consensus reality. </p>
<p>Science fiction became speculation when science stopped speculating and started dictating, and people realized that the appeal of sci-fi all along was not the science and technology as much as the speculation itself, and the enormous sense of scale such speculation evokes. Maybe we no longer care about science but have a resurgent interest in power and spirituality [wonder why?], hence the current popularity of conspiracy and occult genres.</p>
<p>I still feel 12 in a way, perhaps due to having received no initiation rites [or perhaps because I can still not be certain that Iâ€™m not a robot]. Has my gnostic journey thru sci-fi, conspiracy theory and occult worlds been a subconscious attempt at self-initiation in the absence of such rites? </p>
<p>Sorry for the rant but you really got me thinking there.</p>
<p>Specifically, my answer to your question is yes.</p>
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		<title>By: crasspastor</title>
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		<dc:creator>crasspastor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 04:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;With conspiracy theory though, itâ€™s almost like weâ€™ve finally caught up with the predictions. &lt;/i&gt;

I too have long wondered where the real and the fantasy intersect.  It's obvious that when taken in by a hemispherically brained subject the intersection &lt;i&gt;happens&lt;/i&gt; within the physcial and mental body of the individual self.  But what are we to make of an intersection of news/fact  and sci-fi/fantasy that &lt;i&gt;occurs outside&lt;/i&gt; of the synthsizing nature of the human psyche?  What is left for a populous to synthesize on their own when it becomes spoonfed?  Sci-Fi author Charlie Stross wrote a good blog post about this a week or two ago about a plot device known as a &lt;a href="http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blosxom.cgi/2005/05/08#writing-114" rel="nofollow"&gt;Chekov's Gun&lt;/a&gt;.  He concludes his post by asking this profound question:

How do you go about creating a believable human protagonist who is capable of destroying the universe?

Oh Jesus.  I feel another Subhumans song coming on.  Yes I do.  Written in oh, 1981 or so and probably their most well known song ever.

Mickey Mouse Is Dead

&lt;i&gt;Mickey Mouse is dead
Got kicked in the head
Cos people got too serious
They planned out what they said
They couldn't take the fantasy
They tried to accept reality
Analyzed the laughs
Cos pleasure comes in halves
The purity of comedy
They had to take it seriously
Changed the words around
Tried to make it look profound
The comedian is on stage
Pisstaking for a wage
The critics think he's great
But the laughter turns to hate
Mickey Mouse is on T.V.
And the kids stare at the screen
But the pictures are all black and white
And the words don't mean a thing
Cos Mummy's got no money
And Daddy is in jail
He couldn't afford the license
She couldn't afford the bail
The kids out in the road
Their minds have all gone cold
Cos Mickey Mouse is dead
They shot him through the head
With ignorance and scorn
They believed in something new
They read the papers watched the films
And they thought they new the truth
But reality deceives
Whatever you believe
There's always another idea
And theirs is based on fear
The fear of being sussed
For what you really are
The fear of being laughed at
When you go too far
They call it paranoia
You can laugh it away
Until you come to realize
That everyone's the same
People hide their problems
Under faces of contempt
They hide them 'til it kills them
And no one is exempt
Not even you
Look what you done to Mickey Mouse&lt;/i&gt;


  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>With conspiracy theory though, itâ€™s almost like weâ€™ve finally caught up with the predictions. </i></p>
<p>I too have long wondered where the real and the fantasy intersect.  It&#8217;s obvious that when taken in by a hemispherically brained subject the intersection <i>happens</i> within the physcial and mental body of the individual self.  But what are we to make of an intersection of news/fact  and sci-fi/fantasy that <i>occurs outside</i> of the synthsizing nature of the human psyche?  What is left for a populous to synthesize on their own when it becomes spoonfed?  Sci-Fi author Charlie Stross wrote a good blog post about this a week or two ago about a plot device known as a <a href="http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blosxom.cgi/2005/05/08#writing-114" rel="nofollow">Chekov&#8217;s Gun</a>.  He concludes his post by asking this profound question:</p>
<p>How do you go about creating a believable human protagonist who is capable of destroying the universe?</p>
<p>Oh Jesus.  I feel another Subhumans song coming on.  Yes I do.  Written in oh, 1981 or so and probably their most well known song ever.</p>
<p>Mickey Mouse Is Dead</p>
<p><i>Mickey Mouse is dead<br />
Got kicked in the head<br />
Cos people got too serious<br />
They planned out what they said<br />
They couldn&#8217;t take the fantasy<br />
They tried to accept reality<br />
Analyzed the laughs<br />
Cos pleasure comes in halves<br />
The purity of comedy<br />
They had to take it seriously<br />
Changed the words around<br />
Tried to make it look profound<br />
The comedian is on stage<br />
Pisstaking for a wage<br />
The critics think he&#8217;s great<br />
But the laughter turns to hate<br />
Mickey Mouse is on T.V.<br />
And the kids stare at the screen<br />
But the pictures are all black and white<br />
And the words don&#8217;t mean a thing<br />
Cos Mummy&#8217;s got no money<br />
And Daddy is in jail<br />
He couldn&#8217;t afford the license<br />
She couldn&#8217;t afford the bail<br />
The kids out in the road<br />
Their minds have all gone cold<br />
Cos Mickey Mouse is dead<br />
They shot him through the head<br />
With ignorance and scorn<br />
They believed in something new<br />
They read the papers watched the films<br />
And they thought they new the truth<br />
But reality deceives<br />
Whatever you believe<br />
There&#8217;s always another idea<br />
And theirs is based on fear<br />
The fear of being sussed<br />
For what you really are<br />
The fear of being laughed at<br />
When you go too far<br />
They call it paranoia<br />
You can laugh it away<br />
Until you come to realize<br />
That everyone&#8217;s the same<br />
People hide their problems<br />
Under faces of contempt<br />
They hide them &#8217;til it kills them<br />
And no one is exempt<br />
Not even you<br />
Look what you done to Mickey Mouse</i></p>
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		<title>By: Orbis Quintus  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; conspiracy theory as light entertainment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orbis Quintus  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; conspiracy theory as light entertainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 01:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 	 		 	 		 			conspiracy theory as light entertainment 	 			 					Tim Boucher has a post on the possibility of conspiracy theory being the new sci-fi. This [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 22:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds as though it may be the Hollywood-ization of the occult and conspiracy theory. Driving to work this morning, I was thinking about how mainstream media has monopolized on the close call, the hanging-by-a-thread action, the suspense driven encounters. Of course, this is an easy way to get people to gasp, and the example that first came to mind is that scene in Last Action Hero where Schwarzenegger's character ducks down and the axe from that one-eyed guy beautifully floats through the air, missing Arnie's face by a hair's breadth.

The CIA and American military are other good examples. They're portrayed by Hollywood as the stereotypical ass-kicking, we-can-do-no-wrong World Police. In fact, the CIA makes lots and lots of foibles that can be researched in any library, and the U.S. army is good at getting itself blown up (and just last year, "accidentally" blew up some Canadian troops and have never offered an apology).

Last example: kung fu movies.

I am not in the least afraid of the wider audience coming to the occult, I can only hope something good will come of it. On the other hand, this dumbing down of its content to such past references, such as The Exorcist and countless other much worse knock-offs, will definitely taint it's already difficult media image. This results in censure and fear.

The only thing worse than a lack of information is misinformation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds as though it may be the Hollywood-ization of the occult and conspiracy theory. Driving to work this morning, I was thinking about how mainstream media has monopolized on the close call, the hanging-by-a-thread action, the suspense driven encounters. Of course, this is an easy way to get people to gasp, and the example that first came to mind is that scene in Last Action Hero where Schwarzenegger&#8217;s character ducks down and the axe from that one-eyed guy beautifully floats through the air, missing Arnie&#8217;s face by a hair&#8217;s breadth.</p>
<p>The CIA and American military are other good examples. They&#8217;re portrayed by Hollywood as the stereotypical ass-kicking, we-can-do-no-wrong World Police. In fact, the CIA makes lots and lots of foibles that can be researched in any library, and the U.S. army is good at getting itself blown up (and just last year, &#8220;accidentally&#8221; blew up some Canadian troops and have never offered an apology).</p>
<p>Last example: kung fu movies.</p>
<p>I am not in the least afraid of the wider audience coming to the occult, I can only hope something good will come of it. On the other hand, this dumbing down of its content to such past references, such as The Exorcist and countless other much worse knock-offs, will definitely taint it&#8217;s already difficult media image. This results in censure and fear.</p>
<p>The only thing worse than a lack of information is misinformation.</p>
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