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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; Manna Machine?</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/03/chariots-of-the-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; Manna Machine?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 221; into it. My interpretation of it is more along with what I wrote in an article called Chariots of the Gods. People like Erich Von Danniken and Zecharia Sitchin have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mynym</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/03/chariots-of-the-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-1161</link>
		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's a weather balloon, perhaps coated with a gold reflective sheen, released with the winds to arrive at generally the right time. Apparently there was another instance in which this fellow said he would get a UFO to appear for some reporters but it didn't. (I.e., that would be the balloon getting caught in the wind the wrong way.) In one section of the video the reporter says, "It's coming back." and the "prophet" says something like, "Huh?!" with concern in his voice, as he expected the winds to keep carrying it away to the airport. But it turned out okay for him because the balloon was not blown down to be seen clearly, etc. If he really was of one mind with some superpowerful aliens then it is doubtful that they would be such poor planners as to give the appearance of a weather balloon, a well known UFO. It seems that he didn't know which way the higher winds of the atmosphere was going to blow the thing.

There is a blip where the object appears to skip from one place to another. I can't explain that other than perhaps the compression codec of windows media video (wmv) that was used to compress the video. I suppose I could be wrong, but I doubt it. It seems to me that the UFO is rather "floaty"....and not really as zippy as some interstellar craft, even if it appears so with the camera jerking all around. 

So, I say weather balloon and hoax. If not that, I'd still say it was a deception.

(I just wrote this in my &lt;a href="http://www.haloscan.com/comments/mynym/111793590053371402/#22055" rel="nofollow"&gt;comments&lt;/a&gt; on it.)

"&lt;i&gt;my article is also about the similarity to UFOs and religious experience. whats your opinion of religious experience? does it match or not match how UFOâ€™s make you feel? thats what im interested in.&lt;/i&gt;"

I've never been much on going with subjective feelings alone.  Instead, I want to resolve and explain things based on both subjective and objective evidence.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a weather balloon, perhaps coated with a gold reflective sheen, released with the winds to arrive at generally the right time. Apparently there was another instance in which this fellow said he would get a UFO to appear for some reporters but it didn&#8217;t. (I.e., that would be the balloon getting caught in the wind the wrong way.) In one section of the video the reporter says, &#8220;It&#8217;s coming back.&#8221; and the &#8220;prophet&#8221; says something like, &#8220;Huh?!&#8221; with concern in his voice, as he expected the winds to keep carrying it away to the airport. But it turned out okay for him because the balloon was not blown down to be seen clearly, etc. If he really was of one mind with some superpowerful aliens then it is doubtful that they would be such poor planners as to give the appearance of a weather balloon, a well known UFO. It seems that he didn&#8217;t know which way the higher winds of the atmosphere was going to blow the thing.</p>
<p>There is a blip where the object appears to skip from one place to another. I can&#8217;t explain that other than perhaps the compression codec of windows media video (wmv) that was used to compress the video. I suppose I could be wrong, but I doubt it. It seems to me that the UFO is rather &#8220;floaty&#8221;&#8230;.and not really as zippy as some interstellar craft, even if it appears so with the camera jerking all around. </p>
<p>So, I say weather balloon and hoax. If not that, I&#8217;d still say it was a deception.</p>
<p>(I just wrote this in my <a href="http://www.haloscan.com/comments/mynym/111793590053371402/#22055" rel="nofollow">comments</a> on it.)</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>my article is also about the similarity to UFOs and religious experience. whats your opinion of religious experience? does it match or not match how UFOâ€™s make you feel? thats what im interested in.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been much on going with subjective feelings alone.  Instead, I want to resolve and explain things based on both subjective and objective evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/03/chariots-of-the-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you mean youre interested in other opinions that support yours? cause thats what it seems like. what im saying is it doesnt matter much to me if its real or not. whats interesting is what happens to people when something is on the edge of being real/fantasy. do people get excited, do they get worried? what makes you think its a hoax? is it because you dont think UFOs exist, or because you don't trust him as a source, or because you don't like the religious aspect of his message? my article is also about the similarity to UFOs and religious experience. whats your opinion of religious experience? does it match or not match how UFO's make you feel? thats what im interested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you mean youre interested in other opinions that support yours? cause thats what it seems like. what im saying is it doesnt matter much to me if its real or not. whats interesting is what happens to people when something is on the edge of being real/fantasy. do people get excited, do they get worried? what makes you think its a hoax? is it because you dont think UFOs exist, or because you don&#8217;t trust him as a source, or because you don&#8217;t like the religious aspect of his message? my article is also about the similarity to UFOs and religious experience. whats your opinion of religious experience? does it match or not match how UFO&#8217;s make you feel? thats what im interested in.</p>
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		<title>By: mynym</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/03/chariots-of-the-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say, "&lt;i&gt;Itâ€™s almost possible to actually believe that itâ€™s literally true.&lt;/i&gt;"

But, is it?

I do not think his claim is literally/physically true.  Instead I think that in one way or another it will turn out to be a hoax or a deception.  But like I said, I'm interested in other opinions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say, &#8220;<i>Itâ€™s almost possible to actually believe that itâ€™s literally true.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>But, is it?</p>
<p>I do not think his claim is literally/physically true.  Instead I think that in one way or another it will turn out to be a hoax or a deception.  But like I said, I&#8217;m interested in other opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/03/chariots-of-the-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-1157</link>
		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, this article above *does* express my opinion about the prophet yahweh video. perhaps its not conclusive enough for you though...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, this article above *does* express my opinion about the prophet yahweh video. perhaps its not conclusive enough for you though&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: mynym</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/03/chariots-of-the-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 15:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm looking for opinions on that UFO video &lt;a href="http://mynym.blogspot.com/2005/06/ufos-and-aliens.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you're interested.

I'd say to avoid the mysterious mysts of mysticism lying between the difference between the symbol and the symbolized just look at the final sort of message or spirit of any story.

Sacred geometry...that's long been thought of, I suppose.  There were the Pythagoreans and Plato's notion of a whole world of purer Forms/symbols.  The modern scientist reduces all things down to matter in motion and there is actually a security in that, which they will cling to.  Yet if it is true then their notions are little more than the biochemical state of their brain in the moment they think so.  I just wonder if they are thinking that their brain just happens to match an accurate perception of reality or if they secretly assume that they are a mind thinking through a brain (provided its neural nets work well) yet also enjoying the confort and simplicity of Naturalism in which all is the physical and there is no transphysicial or metaphysical that must be dealt with.

Anyhow, later...  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking for opinions on that UFO video <a href="http://mynym.blogspot.com/2005/06/ufos-and-aliens.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say to avoid the mysterious mysts of mysticism lying between the difference between the symbol and the symbolized just look at the final sort of message or spirit of any story.</p>
<p>Sacred geometry&#8230;that&#8217;s long been thought of, I suppose.  There were the Pythagoreans and Plato&#8217;s notion of a whole world of purer Forms/symbols.  The modern scientist reduces all things down to matter in motion and there is actually a security in that, which they will cling to.  Yet if it is true then their notions are little more than the biochemical state of their brain in the moment they think so.  I just wonder if they are thinking that their brain just happens to match an accurate perception of reality or if they secretly assume that they are a mind thinking through a brain (provided its neural nets work well) yet also enjoying the confort and simplicity of Naturalism in which all is the physical and there is no transphysicial or metaphysical that must be dealt with.</p>
<p>Anyhow, later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: albion</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/03/chariots-of-the-gods/comment-page-1/#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>albion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 03:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to some recent New Age UFOlogists, all the sacred sites of the world are landing sites/navigational markers for ancient spaceships, aligned along precisely defined interdimensional grids. Among a certain segment, the idea seems to be converging around the idea of a "Christ Consciousness Grid" around the planet, by which various entities can navigate space-time by utilizing sacred geometry. In this conception, the Great "White" Brotherhood has always been involved in various Space Wars. Humanity's discovery and use of The Grid marks our collective ascension into the next dimension. A good source of clearinghouse (i.e. take it or leave it) info on The Grid can be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/dv96t

I can't honestly say I think any of it is literally true, without altering my current definition of "literalness." But it is tantalizing to imagine that the ongoing militarization of space is a part of a literal Star War. Someone should make a movie out of it...oh no wait, never mind, that's only the plot of EVERY alien-invasion movie ever made!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to some recent New Age UFOlogists, all the sacred sites of the world are landing sites/navigational markers for ancient spaceships, aligned along precisely defined interdimensional grids. Among a certain segment, the idea seems to be converging around the idea of a &#8220;Christ Consciousness Grid&#8221; around the planet, by which various entities can navigate space-time by utilizing sacred geometry. In this conception, the Great &#8220;White&#8221; Brotherhood has always been involved in various Space Wars. Humanity&#8217;s discovery and use of The Grid marks our collective ascension into the next dimension. A good source of clearinghouse (i.e. take it or leave it) info on The Grid can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/dv96t" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/dv96t'>http://tinyurl.com/dv96t</a></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t honestly say I think any of it is literally true, without altering my current definition of &#8220;literalness.&#8221; But it is tantalizing to imagine that the ongoing militarization of space is a part of a literal Star War. Someone should make a movie out of it&#8230;oh no wait, never mind, that&#8217;s only the plot of EVERY alien-invasion movie ever made!</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i watched a few episodes of it when it was out at the time, but never got too into it. but i was also not into all the stuff that i am now though... so if i have a chance at some point, ill try to check it out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i watched a few episodes of it when it was out at the time, but never got too into it. but i was also not into all the stuff that i am now though&#8230; so if i have a chance at some point, ill try to check it out</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Headlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Headlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seriously recommend watching a little of the Babylon 5 TV series (or at least read a summary of the events and characters, then watch the final episode of season 4).  Very, very philosophical in a Gnostic/Taoist sense, and also very balanced in terms of sci-fi and fantasy.

The final episode of season 4 can be applied metaphorically in numerous ways and is almost completely "grey-robed" in meaning.

I suggest  people check it out :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously recommend watching a little of the Babylon 5 TV series (or at least read a summary of the events and characters, then watch the final episode of season 4).  Very, very philosophical in a Gnostic/Taoist sense, and also very balanced in terms of sci-fi and fantasy.</p>
<p>The final episode of season 4 can be applied metaphorically in numerous ways and is almost completely &#8220;grey-robed&#8221; in meaning.</p>
<p>I suggest  people check it out <img src='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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