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		<title>By: Summer Harvest &#187; Tear Down the Wall!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Harvest &#187; Tear Down the Wall!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maybe someone is trying to create tulpas&#8230;. In his most recent post, Jeff Wells suggests (via an anecdote from Jacques Vallee) that perhaps the universe as we know it isn&#8217;t organized based on measurable space/time as understood in physics. Perhaps &#8220;reality&#8221; is organized like a database best accessed via keywords, a concept long understood in the circles of religious mystics. What, after all, is the point of praying, or chanting divine names or meditating on aspects of the divine, if not &#8217;searching&#8217; for some kind of living information by inserting key concepts or phrases into a reality structure? So, suppose an organization exists somewhere (either here or &#8220;there&#8221;) that wants to tear down the Wall, and is doing so by feeding us keywords, or feeding them into a self-perpetuating community of individuals who want &#8220;proof&#8221; to such an extent that they&#8217;re willing to use the search terms &#8220;recommended&#8221; by said organization? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Maybe someone is trying to create tulpas&#8230;. In his most recent post, Jeff Wells suggests (via an anecdote from Jacques Vallee) that perhaps the universe as we know it isn&#8217;t organized based on measurable space/time as understood in physics. Perhaps &#8220;reality&#8221; is organized like a database best accessed via keywords, a concept long understood in the circles of religious mystics. What, after all, is the point of praying, or chanting divine names or meditating on aspects of the divine, if not &#8217;searching&#8217; for some kind of living information by inserting key concepts or phrases into a reality structure? So, suppose an organization exists somewhere (either here or &#8220;there&#8221;) that wants to tear down the Wall, and is doing so by feeding us keywords, or feeding them into a self-perpetuating community of individuals who want &#8220;proof&#8221; to such an extent that they&#8217;re willing to use the search terms &#8220;recommended&#8221; by said organization? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Visit From the Marketing "Buzz" People &#171; Waking the Midnight Sun</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-53077</link>
		<dc:creator>A Visit From the Marketing "Buzz" People &#171; Waking the Midnight Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Look, I have friends who have done or still do work in marketing. And they&#8217;re nice people. That&#8217;s right&#8211;I acknowledged it: they are people.  Most of them enjoy their jobs because they get to analyze patterns (like a conspiracy theorist does) and be creative (albeit in a very limited scope) and get paid to indulge all the things that their marketing tells them they should&#8211;travel, good food, good liquor, a gym membership. But they know not what they do&#8211;and that&#8217;s scary. The companies they work for and their clients, while &#8220;containing&#8221; people much like themselves are not people: no, large corporations are gluttinous, abstract gods&#8211;false idols&#8211;and worse. They are hungry ghosts, egregores/tulpas-gone very bad. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Look, I have friends who have done or still do work in marketing. And they&#8217;re nice people. That&#8217;s right&#8211;I acknowledged it: they are people.  Most of them enjoy their jobs because they get to analyze patterns (like a conspiracy theorist does) and be creative (albeit in a very limited scope) and get paid to indulge all the things that their marketing tells them they should&#8211;travel, good food, good liquor, a gym membership. But they know not what they do&#8211;and that&#8217;s scary. The companies they work for and their clients, while &#8220;containing&#8221; people much like themselves are not people: no, large corporations are gluttinous, abstract gods&#8211;false idols&#8211;and worse. They are hungry ghosts, egregores/tulpas-gone very bad. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pro-Ana: The Pro-Anorexia Fad - Pop Occulture Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pro-Ana: The Pro-Anorexia Fad - Pop Occulture Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s kind of hard not to use a word like &#8220;cult&#8221; after hearing such things. This whole thing about Ana, Bella and Mia makes me think immediately that perhaps they are tapping into some kind of actual spiritual entities (or maybe have created their own). Maybe they are beautiful skeletal beings who thrive on the offerings of food these girls (and men) are giving to them, instead of eating for themselves. Some of the obsessive and unhealthy behaviors associated with these disorders may in fact be keeping with classic characteristics of spirit possession or fixation. I also heard recently that La Santisima Muerte, the Mexican folk saint appears to people as a beautiful woman&#8217;s corpse drained of blood. So, hey who knows? I wonder how people&#8217;s attitudes towards these things would change if they understood that they were possibly feeding a malicious spirit with their life energy? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s kind of hard not to use a word like &#8220;cult&#8221; after hearing such things. This whole thing about Ana, Bella and Mia makes me think immediately that perhaps they are tapping into some kind of actual spiritual entities (or maybe have created their own). Maybe they are beautiful skeletal beings who thrive on the offerings of food these girls (and men) are giving to them, instead of eating for themselves. Some of the obsessive and unhealthy behaviors associated with these disorders may in fact be keeping with classic characteristics of spirit possession or fixation. I also heard recently that La Santisima Muerte, the Mexican folk saint appears to people as a beautiful woman&#8217;s corpse drained of blood. So, hey who knows? I wonder how people&#8217;s attitudes towards these things would change if they understood that they were possibly feeding a malicious spirit with their life energy? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shiny</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>shiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this interview:  
http://www.angelfire.com/celeb/bobhoskins/interviews/animated.html
No psychiatry, just a vacation to clear the weasels out of his head.  He based his visualization on his daughter's imaginary friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this interview:<br />
<a href="http://www.angelfire.com/celeb/bobhoskins/interviews/animated.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.angelfire.com/celeb/bobhoskins/interviews/animated.html'>http://www.angelfire.com/celeb/bobhoskins/interviews/animated.html</a><br />
No psychiatry, just a vacation to clear the weasels out of his head.  He based his visualization on his daughter&#8217;s imaginary friends.</p>
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		<title>By: shiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>shiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had heard that Bob Hoskins, while working on Who Framed Roger Rabbit, was using visualization techniques for the scenes in which he was acting with noone, so he could keep track of where he should be looking and help his acting as well.  But after the film was finished, he ended up seeking psychiatric help because he was still seeing people and things that weren't there.  I'm trying to find some confirmation of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had heard that Bob Hoskins, while working on Who Framed Roger Rabbit, was using visualization techniques for the scenes in which he was acting with noone, so he could keep track of where he should be looking and help his acting as well.  But after the film was finished, he ended up seeking psychiatric help because he was still seeing people and things that weren&#8217;t there.  I&#8217;m trying to find some confirmation of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; Too Many Tulpas</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; Too Many Tulpas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  			Too Many Tulpas 	 			 					The other day, I started talking about something called tulpas, a concept with roots in Tibetan Buddhism. A tulpa is, more or less, an occult though [...]</description>
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 			Too Many Tulpas</p>
<p> 					The other day, I started talking about something called tulpas, a concept with roots in Tibetan Buddhism. A tulpa is, more or less, an occult though [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator  &#187; The Guardian Angel</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1762</link>
		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator  &#187; The Guardian Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in some more detail this idea of the divine twin (that I brought up earlier in relation to tulpas) across a variety of religious traditions. I highly recommend checking this out. Anyw [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in some more detail this idea of the divine twin (that I brought up earlier in relation to tulpas) across a variety of religious traditions. I highly recommend checking this out. Anyw [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to accept david-neel`s testimony.her perception is real,to her.those in her camp began to see this thing too.i can see that as valid also.the next question is,did people outside the camp see the tulpa as well?could this tulpa appear at starbucks?
i think if you believe in something strongly enough others will begin to see it too.visually,or otherwise.
regarding u.f.o.s,i haven`t seen evidence that they have escaped the collective unconcious.we need some phyisical evidence,y`know,sitting on letterman`s desk or landing on the whitehouse lawn or whatever else we need as proof.the field attracts so many nutcases that it is easy to dismiss the whole phenominon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to accept david-neel`s testimony.her perception is real,to her.those in her camp began to see this thing too.i can see that as valid also.the next question is,did people outside the camp see the tulpa as well?could this tulpa appear at starbucks?<br />
i think if you believe in something strongly enough others will begin to see it too.visually,or otherwise.<br />
regarding u.f.o.s,i haven`t seen evidence that they have escaped the collective unconcious.we need some phyisical evidence,y`know,sitting on letterman`s desk or landing on the whitehouse lawn or whatever else we need as proof.the field attracts so many nutcases that it is easy to dismiss the whole phenominon.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Puma</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1754</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don't know if i'd call it a delusion.  if these things are 'real' and someone &lt;strong&gt;doesn't&lt;/strong&gt; see them, that strikes me as more delusional . . . .

then of course there's jung's whole ufo theory, about how they're this weird phenomena that basically escaped from the collective unconscious and took on a life of their own.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t know if i&#8217;d call it a delusion.  if these things are &#8216;real&#8217; and someone <strong>doesn&#8217;t</strong> see them, that strikes me as more delusional . . . .</p>
<p>then of course there&#8217;s jung&#8217;s whole ufo theory, about how they&#8217;re this weird phenomena that basically escaped from the collective unconscious and took on a life of their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Occult Investigator</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator>Occult Investigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>according to david-neel, other people in her camp began seeing it - if you accept her testimony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to david-neel, other people in her camp began seeing it - if you accept her testimony</p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1750</link>
		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do other people,other than the creator of the tulpa,see the created form?if not,then we have a pervasive delusion.mind you delusions can be convincing enough to spur people to great things..............and madness,of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do other people,other than the creator of the tulpa,see the created form?if not,then we have a pervasive delusion.mind you delusions can be convincing enough to spur people to great things&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..and madness,of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Haeresis</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1748</link>
		<dc:creator>Haeresis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh heh.

On a related note, I've always felt that ghost phenomena was an unintentiional manifestation of this sort...that 'the famous ghost olf such and such' is more or less given animation by the imaginations of residents of visitors, and the further contributions of ghost hunters and curiosity seekers.  Eventually, this astral creation gets a life of its own and becomes a self-fulfilling ghost story, which just further perpetuates it.  I think this is why ghost sightings tend to be 'generational.' (iow, all but the 'celebrity' ghosts lose potency)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh heh.</p>
<p>On a related note, I&#8217;ve always felt that ghost phenomena was an unintentiional manifestation of this sort&#8230;that &#8216;the famous ghost olf such and such&#8217; is more or less given animation by the imaginations of residents of visitors, and the further contributions of ghost hunters and curiosity seekers.  Eventually, this astral creation gets a life of its own and becomes a self-fulfilling ghost story, which just further perpetuates it.  I think this is why ghost sightings tend to be &#8216;generational.&#8217; (iow, all but the &#8216;celebrity&#8217; ghosts lose potency)</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

keep an eye on those brooms, buddy</description>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>duh, too quick to post</description>
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		<title>By: Haeresis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haeresis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it allegedly reached the point where the tulpa became a problem***

A bit like Aquinas' complaints about Albertus' noisy golem? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it allegedly reached the point where the tulpa became a problem***</p>
<p>A bit like Aquinas&#8217; complaints about Albertus&#8217; noisy golem?</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/tulpas/comment-page-1/#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SImilar to the concept of a &lt;a href="http://unrune.chaosmagic.com/servitor.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;servitor &lt;/a&gt; or an &lt;a href="http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/gegregor.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;egregore&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SImilar to the concept of a <a href="http://unrune.chaosmagic.com/servitor.htm" rel="nofollow">servitor </a> or an <a href="http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/gegregor.html" rel="nofollow">egregore</a></p>
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