Comments on: Persinger’s Neurotheology Busted?

By: Nathan

Nathan — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:39:58 +0000

About the idea that a new religious movement might be in the process of being created: Back in 1973, the U.S. government comissioned a report from SRI International entitled Changing Images of Man. This report concluded that the spread of so-called “new values”- spiritual and ecological awareness and self-realization movements - had become unstoppable. They also predicted that if left unchecked this would bring about a transformation of society that would undermine ‘modern industrial-state culture and institutions’ and result in ’serious social disruptions, economic decline, runaway inflation, and even institutional collapse’. The report anticipates a lessening of trust in authority and a reaction against a regimented, tightly controlled society. In order to prevent this “worst case scenario”, SRI recommended identifying existing institutions or traditions that could be used to control and contain the impetus of the new movement - in other words, they recommended that the government infiltrate and co-opt the movement for meaningful spiritual/ethical re-definition and social change (Freemasonry was suggested as a particularly useful vehicle for this co-option).

So if a new science-based religion is in the making, something approved by the voice of Official Authority, something safe, neutered, materialistic, perhaps it is a part of a bigger plan. There is no question, that if you look at where we were 35-40 years ago, where we appeared to be going with all this, something has gone off-track. All the progressive possibility that seemed to be opening up in the wake of ’60’s new thought… this kind of thought hasn’t exactly disappeared, but it certainly hasn’t had much of a revolutionary effect either, the new boss is pretty much the same as the old boss, only with better public relations. What was supposed to be unstoppable has been confined to the fringes, and the Great Powerful Machine has kept rolling right along. It’s interesting to me that we hear about the Brookings Report all the time, in discussions of possible UFO secrecy, but the SRI report is never mentioned and seems to be almost completely unknown, even though its potential applicability covers a lot more territory, and even though SRI is very well known among alternative knowledge communities because of it’s CIA-sponsored remote viewing experiments. It makes you wonder if there aren’t some gatekeepers at work here, carrying out their assignments with a high degree of efficiency.

By: Occult Investigator

Occult Investigator — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:55:17 +0000

oh, the investigative mythologist… ive definitely heard of him. ill look into it more, thanks

By: human?

human? — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:47:17 +0000

gimme a little more info

http://site.williamhenry.net/

william henry, definitly your boy.. he is an “Investigative Mythologist”

description of “Cloak of the Illuminati”:

Thousands of years ago stargate technology of the gods was lost. Mayan Prophecy says it will return by 2012, along with our alignment with the center of our galaxy. This will bring the birth of a new matrix and a new human. We are its elders. Included are scenes drawn by Maya artists that bear witness to the existence of a ladder reaching between Earth and the Healing Sun, a (star) gate way, powered by the black hole at the Galactic Center. William compares the ancient power cloaks of the prophets with the new nanotechnology super cloaks currently under development for the Pentagon at MIT. In the ancient world when one put on the Cloak they became the Oracle, a “magi” capable of expanded spiritual powers, including alchemy, the receiving of prophecy and of healing self and healing others.

i enjoy his work very much (although i dont always agree with his conclusions, he does good work)

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By: alistair

alistair — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:27:27 +0000

yeah,i just don`t think scientists realise the distinction of exterior vs.exterior,except those who dicuss the implicate/explicate unfolding in quantum mechanics.q.m. is desperately trying to compare it`sself to spirituality….see,see we can describe it! and i have to say that anyone who focusses on problems as quantum physicists and mathematicians do are bound to experience some spiritual stuff as a consequence.
the only time the practical mind goes deep inside is to provide answers to material concerns.some scientists recognise the effect of conciousness.cleve baxter did some interesting things with plants and minds.in my field we discuss things such as yogurt knowing yogurt.take a pot of yogurt and put it in two dishes.hook one up to a galvanic response meter.in another room pour milk over the other dish.record changes in galvanic respose.it knows.
your enthusiasm is appreciated.

By: zacharius

zacharius — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:08:33 +0000

in a nutshell, alistair, and please don’t take my enthusiasm as an attack…science split from spirituality when it rejected subjective interior experiences as valid datum, and then pronounced that only experiments conducted in the exterior world were ‘real’ science.

this is what upsets me about this mechanistic approach to spirtuality. you cannot ‘prove’ or ‘disprove’ an interior experience with an exterior object. bell’s theorem proves/disproves the square root of fuck all in relation to buddha-mind

contemplative traditions follow the exact same methods as true science. people who can’t be bothered to run the experiment and see if there ‘really’ is a god should just take a chill pill and go play with thier toys.

By: alistair

alistair — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:46:43 +0000

zach,what happened two hundred years ago that made science stop being a religion?we are asked to accept the big bang on faith…..the list goes on.string theory,evolution(theory).at least bell was honest enough to maintain the theorum aspect of his idea.try disputing the validity of any of the above with scientists.
by the way,sir issac newton was an alchemist.the king made him chancelor of the exchequer because issac promised that he could turn base metals into gold.useful,as the king needed to pay for the mercinaries in gold in the war with france.
the king believed that then.what does science ask us to believe for money now?
i think(mho)that if it was possible to create religious experience via a box and a hat someone would have francised the process by now.

By: zacharius

zacharius — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:51:03 +0000

well that’s great. so once we’ve strangled all the legitamate paths to death, chemically castrated all the true seekers, and erased any memory of actual realisation from the history books, we can instal god-boxes on every street corner and really do the aldous huxley deluxe theme park.

quite frankly you’re more likely to prove science with religion than the other way around. hell, science was religion up untill a few hundred years ago. fucking descarte got his inspiration from a vision of an angel!

By: Occult Investigator

Occult Investigator — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:24:19 +0000

gimme a little more info

By: human?

human? — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:22:46 +0000

William Henry “Cloak of the Illuminati”

^^check it out.