But I think it’s a valid question as to how psychologically (and spiritually) well those in positions of authority are. I have experience with recovery movements, and one of their concepts is that the desire to control other people is a form or symptom of insanity. Maintaining and expanding power over others takes so much of one’s self (and this would be true if the political dramas I’ve watched are at all accurate) that one doesn’t have much time for true self-reflection, and one spends too much energy manipulating other to maintain self-control.

Listen to politicians, twisting language so much what they say means next to nothing. Take a look at soldiers, marching like emotionless robots. They’re human, but how in touch are they with reality? How in touch are they with themselves?

Another recovery movement concept is that insanity can be contagious. We’re human just like them.

I don’t really know about either of these … I mean, I’ve seen George W. Bush laugh - so he obviously has a sense of humour. Whether what he’s laughing at is what I’d deem funny is another thing entirely.

Secondly, they - the rulers - work some hardcore magic, in that they actually create realities which people live in. But enlightened? Well, labeling like that sort of indicates a judgement call, I’d say, which is totally dependent on your own belief system - so who’s to say, really, who “gets it” and who doesn’t?

Besides, concerning the magic(k) part - consider Bush. He gets his information from a group of people around him, all with different agendas; he’s also coached, in that people tell him what to say - write speeches for him and so on - as well as dress him up for different occasions and so on. So that’s a magickal ritual right there; you make the world conform to a set of beliefs through the use of symbols, which is made all the more powerful when people actually tune their nervous systems onto these memeplexes “they” generate.

I agree that keeping tabs, as you said, on people’s level of enlightenment or whatever is pretty useless. That would be another empty husk/qlippoth right there, one which is meant to further enhance your sense of ego and self esteem by validating parts of one’s belief system. Which amounts to mere metaphysical wanking, of course.

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What I always liked about the gnostic gospels is way they depict the archons as incompetent, bumbling, keystone kops

Are the elites more powerful than the archons? I don’t think so.

Lord Vader, the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers!

I’ve pretty much decided that keeping tabs on somebody else’s level of spiritual is pretty much useless. I mean, I really don’t think I even have an accurate picture of where I’m at. And I actually know all the little intricacies of my life story.

The reason is that about six months ago I had the unpleasant experience of being judged by a few people who felt I was not responding gracefully to a very difficult situation. Thing is, none of these people had ever before encountered such a situation in their own lives. The one person I know who has had a similar experience in her life was extremely supportive and we have since become good friends.

For a long time I’ve understood intellectually how you can’t really ever judge another person, especially never having “walked in their shoes”. Now I totally get it on a very deep emotional level.

live and let live may be overly optimistic at this stage, sad to say.