Comments on: More Leary CIA Stuff

By: alistair

alistair — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:05:16 +0000

harold wilson was prime minister of england in the sixties.

By: Thomas Conlon

Thomas Conlon — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:30:32 +0000

This thread certainly adds a new twist (for me anyway) to the CIA/crack cocaine thing from the 1980’s, you know Los Angeles, dead reporter, etc….

Anyone notice Asa Hutchinson was governor of Arkansas during that time (Mena airstrip)? Now he’s bopping around the federal executive branch.

-tc

“setup like a bowling pin, knocked down, gets to wearing thin, just won’t let you be”
-Grateful Dead

By: Occult Investigator

Occult Investigator — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:44:19 +0000

anton. not familiar with harold

By: alistair

alistair — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:26:31 +0000

which wilson, r.anton or harold?

By: Occult Investigator

Occult Investigator — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:01:33 +0000

Well yeah, I’m not totally on board with the LaRouchean “It’s the Brits!” story either. I dont think the Brits needed to wait until the 1960’s to “reclaim” America via the Beatles. Especially not when they probably allowed the American Revolution to happen in the first place. And did anybody notice that we didn’t win the War of 1812?

But anyway, I am curious about just what the hell Huxley was up to - who was he really working for, or was he working for himself? I’ve seen claims now that he, Wells and Orwell were all British Intelligence. Who knows? It’s an interesting story if it’s not true. And if it is true, then holy fuck - I don’t know what to make of that quite yet.

In any event, I’m more or less convinced the CIA had a very large hand in LSD, and that Leary was more or less definitely working for them either knowingly or unknowingly for much of his career - especially after he turned on the Weathermen and the Brotherhood of Eternal Love in the mid-70’s. That seems pretty indisputable.

Definitely want to figure out how Wilson plays into this….

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:54:55 +0000

The last article you cited is definitely written by a member of the Lyndon LaRouche movement–the pejorative references to homosexuality, the linkage of rock’n roll music and the occult to British Intelligence and the general tone of pinning everything on the Brits. All of the aforementioned are stock and trade of Lyndon LaRouche’s ideology and that of his disciples. They have their own intelligence agency and do some excellent research–LaRouche’s researchers were the first to (re)expose the Bush family’s funding of the Nazi’s during WWII. However, they also tend to have quite a bit of this wonky anti-Brit and homophobic stuff mixed in, plus, once you read a bit of their stuff, you start to notice a veiled anti-semitism also (strange for folks who rail against world fascism…or maybe not so strange) and they’ve been linked to far-rightwing groups worldwide. The research is generally good, like I said, but the distortions and underlying bile of many of their articles needs to be taken into account.

All of that said, the overwhelming evidence is that LSD was a part of MK Ultra and that Leary had a deleterous effect on political activism in his role as a CIA accomplice. Which makes me wonder–what involvement, if any, might Robert Anton Wilson have had with U.S. intelligence? He is closely linked with Leary, had praise for Ferguson’s the Aquarian Conspiracy, etc. The only people I know who have claimed anything of the sort have been the late Kerry Thornley (Oswald’s alleged double and founder of Discordianism) and, of course, wonky Lyndon LaRouche, who at one time seemed to believe Wilson really REALLY was the head of the Illuminati…

By: Occult Investigator

Occult Investigator — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:14:13 +0000

Yeah, I’m figuring out the best way

By: J. Puma

J. Puma — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:10:46 +0000

are you gonna post on that metahistory connexion?