someone once said that if you can imagine something happening, no matter how strange it may seem, it`s happening somewhere.

I used to play that game all the time when I was bored.

Just randomly noting that someone right NOW - Is snorting cocao puffs up his nose!

Good times….

My only conspiratorial thoughts about AIDS up until now have been the usual lot: was it engineered by men as population control? as a genocide tool, or a way to eradicate homosexuals and deviants?

Then, the epiphany hit me– no matter what people think or postulate, it is a FACT that AIDS has worked as a definite sort of thought control. My attitude towards promiscuous people, for example, is that if they’re not careful, they’ll catch AIDS. And yet, I’ve never known anyone personally who had it. I’ve met people who had it, but they were not close associates.

To try and find out who engineered it, if anyone actually did, seems almost pointless now. I look at the younger generations, and they are gravitating back to the Boomer sex attitude– promiscuity is going up among the kids. They know about AIDS too, but they aren’t as scared as we were. In fact, they are getting downright risky.

This is the backlash of such a system of thought control, and it makes me wonder if it is an undesired side effect… or the actual endgame of a bigger enterprise…

Your thoughts?

Are there altruistic moles in these secret orders?

Types whom grew up in the dark system, have played the game all of their lives, but are intetionally are ciphers in the order out of chaos.

Thus a guy like Leary (I don`t assume to know his motives), whom acknowledges the covert power structure in the CIA, but uses it to advance positive changes.

Secondly, I believe that humans are not infallible. Thus no matter what kind of Utopic vision some may have of a one world order of consumer zombies attached to technological control - systems, people always fuck up one time or another.

Good stuff to think about…

What’s the difference?

We’re acted upon by innumerable forces: History, programming, astrology, chemicals in the environment and within our bodies, etc. There is no way to be uninfluenced.

The best thing to remember is simple answers are fine, even if contradictory. The problem is when you get to simple, coherent answers, and then stop looking.

I like Firefly. I hate Fox. Something I hate made something I like. If I was consistent, this would bother me. But, I believe six impossible things before breakfast, so I’m fine.

the Ahrimanic intelligence agencies disseminate lsd for the purposes of control research, but it backfires into a Luciferian drop-out from the social control mechanism, but as the mechanism tightens it’s grip toward the end of the sixties, the drops outs either become marginalised escapists, or they end up feeding ideas back into the machine. the bay area was the cradle of the computing revolution, after all… which spawned all kind of surveilance tech and military weponry, but also the mass information exchange of the internet, just in time for the closure of the media around the gulf war I, leading to the schism we have now where the machine has more or less safely sequestered us in our digital ghetto, where we will eventually come up with the means to break out of the machine again…

But, going along with Jeremy’s comment, the seeds of rebellion are always contained in any control structure. Even the archons reflect the light of Sophia. Our subconscious always rebels against the designs of the ego.

In fact, I prefer conspiracy over myth because conspiracy theorists strive to make their theories believable whereas most mythmakers strive for the opposite (e.g. the futuristic special effects of lucas’s Star Wars movie-myths).

Just like we have to be careful not to start thinking of myths as literally true, we shouldn’t think of conspiracies as literally true.

For example, my view on conspiracy theories has always been informed by an offhand remarck I heard G. Gordon Liddy(of all people) make about 10 years ago. In response to a caller who asked about the existence of secret societies in Washington, DC. He said that “sure all these groups exist, they are all very active and influential, but none of them have ruled or will rule the world because they are more interested in competing with one another and petty infighting.”

I think that is useful to keep in mind whenever one delves into conspiracies.

In a way I think conspiracy theorizing provides us with the comforting notion that human beings are in control. The conspirators may be evil, but at least we can still claim that our species (or some bipedal variant from elsewhere) is in control. Conspiracy theories allow people a way to avoid dealing with the frightening possibility that human beings as a species are NOT in control, in fact no one is. In a way it is paradoxically related to some adults’ desire to return to their childhood - when mom and dad could take care of everything. Of course, this return is framed in a negative way - the loss of individual freedom thanks to the nefarious conspirators. But on some level I think the conspiracy theorist derives psychic satisfaction from actually believing that some identifiable group is in CONTROL.

hell, this is an interesting concept . . . .

there’s the luciferic strain, which is rooted in angelic visitation, aliens, gnostic rebellion against matter and limitation, lsd, the new age and the 60’s counter culture. and while this is the knee-jerk superior option for most of us, it’s a kind of an implied trap leading into delusion, fantasy and escapism, abdicating the material world.

on the other hand we have the ahrimanic strain which is all about materialism, mechanism, propaganda, media manipulation, mechanisation of the inner and outer being, culminating in nanotechnology, mind control, and totallly propagandised social spaces.