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Most Played-Out Conspiracy Theories
That last post got me thinking. There are really a lot of conspiracy and far-out theories that I’d just as soon see disappear forever. Either because they are stupid, because I’m tired of them, or I think they lead to bad areas. Or they just seem like an endless spinning of wheels. Here’s a tentative list of possible candidates for “Most Played-Out Conspiracy Theories.” Vote now for your (least) favorite.
Now, I’m not gonna lie. Some of these I have a love-hate relationship with and will pick up as threads now and again. But over all, I’m just fucking sick of seeing them around
- The Annunaki, Nephilim, Watchers
- Planet X, Nibiru
- Any fringe website with a black background, and bright green type
- I’m getting really tired of hearing the words “Illuminati” and “New World Order”
- Anything racist, especially anti-Semitic
- While there’s some interesting stuff in the mix, I’m overall ready to let go of 2012, the “Singularity”, the end of the Mayan calendar
- The Da Vinci Code
- I’m almost ready to move past 9/11 being an inside job and get on with my life. Doesn’t mean I don’t still believe it and didn’t think it instantly at the time
- Peak Oil I find boring - probably real - but still not something I’m terribly interested in.
- CFR/Trilateral Commission/Bilderbergs, etc
- Election Fraud, simply because it obviously happened twice, and there’s nothing anybody can do about it because voting doesn’t give you power
- Accusing people of being “disinformation agents”
- Saying that some people aren’t human but are controlled by aliens or other entities
- Just about anything New Age
- Talking about “healing the planet” without giving really solid ideas how
Mm… that’s just off the top of my head. I expect a lot of people won’t agree with some of these items. But that’s cool. It’s not necessarily an indictment against the worth of looking into them. I’m just personally bored with most of these things. What are you bored with in the world of conspiracy theory?
July 14th, 2005 at 3:54 pm
i might add the buzz phrase ‘zionism’ to the whole antisemitic thing. i’m not granting any positive/negative value to the phrase, but if i’m on some page and see the word ‘zionism,’ i automatically shut down & go away.
here’s a few of mine:
- atlantis
- nostradamus (any so-called ‘prophet,’ really)
- health schemes like that original limu crap that that dude from cryptogon is always harping on (the conspiracy being that some secret cabal wants to keep you from accessing these miracle cures)
- anything having to do with purchases of gold/silver for the collapse of the economy.
July 14th, 2005 at 3:57 pm
Ooh damn, those are all really good.
July 14th, 2005 at 4:04 pm
I ditto all of the above. Some of it never even interested me. I am also getting bored of hearing about the CIA, mafia, etc, etc. Even mind-control is beginning to bore me, I never thought that would happen. What’s the world of internet conspiracy coming to?
I’d like to see a list of everyone’s favorite new, edgy conspiracy theories. Give me something I can waste copious amounts of time researching on the internet. As for me, nothing comes to mind.
July 14th, 2005 at 4:13 pm
- Ike`s Reptiles
- Moonies (Rev. Sun Yun Moon)
- Area 51
- Every supposed UFO anomoly picture (flying men etc…)
- The Protocols of Zion
- Nazi Occult Disinformation (supermen, moon landings etc) As opposed to the ligitmate facts of occult ties and uses.
- Holy Grail (as ligtimate object) and not as alchemical path of elightenment
- Marilyn Manson (church of satan honorary reverend / root of all evil) when the guy is one of the most enlightening artists of our times.
Maybe I`ll come back with some more…
July 14th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
hell, for new edgy conspiracies it’s hard to beat the idea of a conspiracy to dupe the conspiracies that we introduced here just the other day (see the comments):
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/13/a-conspiracy-crisis/
i’m also still keen on the whole ultradimensional entity meta-theory (vallee, keel, etc.), and i can’t help but be intrigued by the puharich/council of nine stuff– that stuff is layers upon layers.
another good one that’ll keep you going for hours (though most certainly “fictional” in the laxest sense) is the ong’s hat stuff:
http://www.incunabula.org/ebooks.html
July 14th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
Here’s another:
- Anything that people think is going to be able to get Bush out of office. You don’t steal two elections to let a little scandal knock you out.
July 14th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
hah! good one. i’d expand that to say ’surface-level conspiracies,’ like all of this current karl rove business, as though it’s really important in the grand scheme of things. sure, it might be, but i’m bored with it.
oh, for another one that i still get a kick out of, it’s the sentient satellites (black knight, etc.) thing, though that ties into puharich.
July 14th, 2005 at 4:19 pm
Yeah, I’m currently really obsessed with the following:
- Looking at how counter-cultural movements are co-opted by power elites
- How power elites are in turn co-opted by the movements they’re trying to co-opt.
- Ultraterrestrials are still cool, agreed
- I’m particularly into seeing who knows who, and who has worked together in terms of historical characters
- Mind control is “so hot right now” (but there are some breaking points starting to happen)
- Studying control-systems in general, and the “anarcho-gnostic” response
- Looking at how inner experience is reflected in outer experience in areas like UFO encounters, ritual abuse, etc (I do find myself beginning to grow weary of the “Satanic Panic” aspect of ritual abuse)
- Mythological underpinnings of modern conspiracy theory
- How conspiracy theory and the occult represent an alternative and useful way of thinking outside the mainstream
- How people use stories to give their life meaning and purpose and ritual structure
- Anything that basically raises more questions than it answers
Um, I have more, but those are a start
July 14th, 2005 at 4:20 pm
Oh god yeah, I can’t get enough of the sentient satellites or the invisible gnostic underground. I’m also currently into the idea that some elite conspiracy groups are actually into the same shit as we are in the same way
July 14th, 2005 at 4:21 pm
The only thing you can entertain to get the shrub out is a co-ordinated military putsch. (ala FDR attempt 1934)
Everything else is Fisher Price politics…
July 14th, 2005 at 4:32 pm
or that politicians are stupid. if anything is indicative of a group at work it`s the movement to make a politician seem deficient. the first time i ever saw it at work was when dan qualyle ran afoul of a t.v. actress and the woman began to one-sidedly eat his lunch. in retrospect it could be suggested that he spelt potato wrong just to fuel the fire…………….
i don`t like al gore, but to make the mistake of thinking that he`s a fool plays into some soothing of the voters insecurity about thier own intellect. these people are lawyers, for the most part, and a high i.q. bunch. they are far from idiots, don`t live in trailer parks and not one of them has had a cameo on cops. they are bureaucrats.
what motive would anyone have for making them foolish?
July 14th, 2005 at 4:35 pm
Yeah, I’m feeling like that on certain aspects of CIA and mind control. I’m trying to keep it fresh by pushing it into new areas though, but I definitely know what you’re saying.
I’m also bored with:
- Comets, meteors, etc
- The “Face” on Mars
- Aleister Crowley being dragged into EVERYTHING
The more I think of it, the harder time I’m having thinking of really good concrete conspiracy topics that I do want to investigate. Most of the ones I listed in a previous comment were pretty high-level conceptual stuff.
July 14th, 2005 at 4:39 pm
I`m into the following…
- Countering capitalism`s amalgamation of culture or movements against it
- Exposing Ritual Abuse society / Behavorial Control / Sleepers as legitimate threat
- Finding the “players” behind the scenes that are not public personalities
- Deciphering of technological capabilities within black projects of today considering we are exposed to stuff 10 yrs old once converted into white…
- Underlying syncronous symbolism in everyday events ala Entemenaki
July 14th, 2005 at 4:56 pm
here, here! let’s let ol’ AC rest . . . . i still like the bastard, but he wasn’t some kind of evil high priest who had his fingers dipped into every single little occult movement.
the funny thing is, crowley would have *loved* all of this publicity, positive and negative. he basically designed his life so that just this would happen.
July 14th, 2005 at 5:05 pm
Yeah and he did a goddamned fucking good job of it, I might add.
I’m not quite yet tired of L. Ron Hubbard, although I can feel my interest in it nearing a close. There are definitely some other people I feel like need to be put out to pasture though.
- Zecharia Sitchin
- Erich Von Daniken
- David Icke
Although Icke I might just keep around to piss people off. I don’t have much use for Alex Jones either, but I guess he serves a purpose. OOH OOH! Here’s something I’m super tired of:
- the whole “Prophet… or Madman?” angle
July 14th, 2005 at 5:45 pm
I’m also pretty tired of the endless Matrix comparisons - even though I do find them useful as a sort of conceptual shorthand drawing on common cultural context. But yeah, it’s still annoying.
July 14th, 2005 at 6:32 pm
what about the conspiracy to make real conspiracies boring by flooding the market with BS?
the most annoying topic to me recently is the border & illegal immigrants.
i like mexican people. its all the white folks who are already here i cant stand…
July 14th, 2005 at 7:45 pm
i’m kinda sick of hearing about the ‘crash of civilization.’ not that it won’t happen eventually (tho i don’t think it’s coming up any time soon) but because after a while it just tends to sound like cranks whining because they dislike, hate or fear the world as it is.
July 14th, 2005 at 8:38 pm
I’m sick of people mentioning the late William Cooper. It always bugs me when they do.
July 15th, 2005 at 1:50 am
-Suitcase nukes - 100 ARE MISSING FROM RUSSIA! AL QUEDA HAS SMUGGLED THEM ACROSS THE BORDER! THEY’RE PLANTED IN OUR CITIES! THEY COULD GO OFF AT ANY TIME!… yeah, sure they could. I’m plugging my ears right now.
-Population control as part of the mega-conspiracy - sorry, but there ARE too many humans on this planet to sustain the ecology, the vast majority of us who know that only want voluntary actions to be taken, we don’t want genetically engineered superviruses released that will kill off billions.
-Gun control as part of the mega-conspiracy - given the kind of sophisticated weapons technology that the NWO types would have access to, from the black projects and whatnot, does anyone seriously believe they would be afraid of a bunch of scraggly civilians armed with shotguns and pistols? They could just aim HAARP at you and scramble your brain, or render you unconscious with a non-lethal sonic cannon.
-Left gatekeepers - they just have limited imaginations about some things, that’s all. They are not all “in on it”.
-We Didn’t Go to the Moon - Sure we did…but we didn’t come back alone.
July 15th, 2005 at 9:07 am
Yeah, the nukes business is hilarious. Where I lived in Vacaville, we were right under the restricted airspace for the base, knew half the time where Cheney’s “undisclosed” location was..I figured if there really was such an organized and omnipresent terrorist org in the US, they’d have shot those idiots out of the sky ten times over by now.
July 15th, 2005 at 9:46 am
The atlantis shit bugs me, too- all these stories start with these vfastly advanced, intelligent cultures (who of course have technology just beyond ours) who still manage to be dicks and blow each other up.
The “Secret society” bullshit gets me, too, especially the illuminati/freemasonry crap. Whenever anyone questions these ppl, you get the canard about ‘only high level masons’ are let in on the evil satan worship…but they never explain why most ‘high level’ masons aren’t rich or powerful. The elites are worshippers of themselves and mammon, not satan- and they’re far too catty and lacking in common sense to keep a secret that big. Their big secret is they look down on the rest of us. It doesn’t take a conspiracy to screw up the world, just some political idealism from people with power, any of us could be those people if we’d gone to Brigham Young or had Bill Gates for a Daddy.
Ditto for this “Bohemian Grove” shit. Why does every party someone’s not invited to gotta be a giant satanic ritual? It’s a frat party for rich losers.
On a related note, I’m much sick and tired of the satanic ritual abuse revival that seems to be going on. There are a lot of victims of child abuse who are not being served by the grandiose theorising and bizarre scenarios (nobody has yet to explain what a satanist is supposed to get out of it, either!). The so called victims (like the infamous Michelle who’s now a ‘holocaust’ survivor) who are always victims of powerful, impoortant people but never rick the plumber, who can go on and on for hours but never actually pin down who exactly they helped sacrifice or when, or even describe any ‘rituals’ in detail, yet all these people are just lining up to believe, and if you don’t get in line you’re a ‘disinfo’ agent (or if a child recants when reaching adulthood, well, he’s now a conspiracist). Nobody learns from Michelle or Mike Warnke, or any of the endless parade of attention seekers out there, nobody questions why these “victims” never seem to have much feeling for the people they claim to have helped kill, and all of them claim such trauma, yet they all manage to write books and take to the lecture circuit. We’re asked to believe a broken down pre-school had millions to build secret underground tunnels and secretly cover them up during an investigation), but we’re not supposed to ask why rich pedophiles can’t find a better spot to dress up in animal costiumes- esp-ecially when it’s pretty well known how and where rich pedophiles get their victims, and it’s not through moind-controlling little white girls.
And yeah, I don’t buy the “crash” business either. We’ve survived worse, and I don’t think the loss of easy oil is going to send us back to the nineteenth century. I mean, we’ve already got guys making oil out of sewage, solar batteries, what have you. We’re spoiled, but we’re not gonna be living in cottage farms, we’re gonna be riding our bikes more, and only the filthy rich will bother with Hummers.
“Alternative” medical conspiracies- that AIDS, Cancer, etc are a) government creations, and b) there are cheap, secret herbal treatments that can cure everything from baldness to death. Yes, we oversell medicines to people who don’t need them, and we medicate instead of addressing underlying issues, sure. But everyone who’s every gone into their doctor’s office clutching a magazine ad is as much responsible as the idiots pushing the stuff. In fact, I’m just about sick of ANY conspiracy that makes “us” the innocent victims of any evil “them.” “They” is us, and the cxonspiracy tajk is often just a way to avoid responsibility. (Like that jackass who thinks ‘higher consciousness’ ois more important than his over consumption problems. Ditto for anyone else who lazes aroun d in bed hollering for everyone else to ‘wake up, already.’)
Ditto ANYONE who refers to other human beings as “sheep.”
July 15th, 2005 at 12:02 pm
So. . . adding all this together, what we really need to do is go home to bed and pull the all covers over our heads, and keep saying “it can’t happen here, and if it does, I can’t do anything about it, anyway”?
July 15th, 2005 at 12:07 pm
I don’t think any of us are suggesting anything remotely like that M. I think what we’re doing is giving ourselves a chance to vent our frustrations and in so doing, chart a course to move forward.
It is rather funny though since if you add all these items up, what is there left to even study as a conspiracy? It seems like everybody’s tired of everything…
July 15th, 2005 at 12:07 pm
BWA HA HA HA! thanks for making me snort coffee out my dang nose. seriously, tho’, i hate that shit.
i’ve always thot the most dangerous ‘conspiracy’ is greed. in a lot of ways, too, people are all ‘i can’t believe it! all these rich and powerful people are getting together at bohemian grove/the bilderburg/trilateral commission etc.’ and they think this is some kind of surprising development! but *of course* they all know each other and like to hang out. we’re talking about social stratas that include like point oh-one percent of the world’s population. a lot of this ’secret conspiracy’ is just that they’re all part of the same clique, just like how in high school all the rich kids hung out w/one another.
here’s where i’m gonna have to disagree. we’ve survived worse in small pockets, but never as the entire planet. now, *i* get tired of hearing people write off the potential crash as this horrible scenario like mad max, but i think there’s a lot of value in the crash as an apocalyptic myth that could have positive effects, in a more nuanced way. i tend to think of it not as a collapse of civilization, but as a collapse of control systems. of course, thats jmho.
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Oh shit, I forgot about that. But I actually had a really cool dream about that last night too, now that you say it. So I don’t know! But yeah, I am certainly tired of people screaming about it.
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Not one person mentioned the JFK assassinations.
Granted, they’re the Grandaddies Of Them All, encompassing CIA, FBI, LSD, LBJ, UFOs, Masonry, the Mob, mind control, and what have you… but not one person mentioned them in this informal poll.
Also: a lot of things that did get mentioned aren’t really conspiracy theories. UFO stuff, for example, is only conspiracy-related if people believe there is a cover-up going on. But if I believe that it’s possible for intelligent life to exist, or that UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects, that is) really exist, that in and of itself is not a conspiracy.
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July 15th, 2005 at 6:20 pm
Well, an apocalypse myth is one thing- we have one for every generation. But I don’t think an oil slide is going to be catastrophic for anyone in the US- I don’t think we’ll be hoarding rainbarrels and abandoning the internet…there will be plenty of time to adjust.
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