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Is Dissent Really Dangerous?



One of the great fantasies of the conspiracy theorist and counter-culturalist is that their actions not only affect the wider world, but arouse the wrath of the government control mechanism. It sets their (our) actions and ideals in a heroic context of struggle against the odds. But is this really an accurate picture of what’s going on?

A common tale you’ll hear among many “New World Order”-type conspiracists is that at some point in the not-too-distant future, an engineered cataclysm will occur, and all the dissenters or dissidents will be rounded up and silenced, either by death or internment in state-sponsored prison camps.

Now, such things can and do happen, so I’m not here to argue against that. Nor am I here to argue about the reality of the NWO agenda. What I do want to ask though is: Dissent, is it really as dangerous as we make it out to be? What are the practical effects of publicly disagreeing with government policy or action in a nation (or world) such as ours? On some level, widespread disagreement makes it harder to implement policies. That much seems obvious, but what else does it do?

Jeremy is always quoting (I think) author Jacques Ellul who said that a new technology always expands to cover all it’s possible uses, both positive and negative. For example, atomic fission was used for both the creation of bombs and power plants. Such expansion seems largely inavoidable, and the point is that the technology itself is inherently neutral. What about ideas themselves? Are ideas also neutral? When a new idea is introduced into a culture, doesn’t the idea also expand to fill all possible applications?

Dissent, or the non-acceptance of an idea, would thus be inevitable from a strictly practical standpoint. When a new idea hits the scene, some people are going to love it, some are going to hate it, and some people are going to run off in totally weird directions with it. In some ways, I wonder if this intense positive/negative polarity that accompanies ideas is actually what brings them into their fullest expression and manifestation in reality. In other words, when Dr. Frankenstein wanted to bring his monster to life, he attached one positive and one negative cable to each of the monster’s nodes. The resulting surge of electricity animated the corpse.

The negative charge that the monster received didn’t harm him. In fact, it served to provide a pathway for the current to flow across. Can we use this analogy to say that dissent isn’t (necessarily) dangerous, but that it functions in concert with positive supporting opinion to provide a pathway for current to flow across and animate a culture?

What I’m wondering is basically: is the “dissent” of conspiracy theorists, activists and counter-culturalists not only necessary for government, but somehow designed to occur? People talk about disinformation agents and propagandists spreading lies and distortions to “mislead” investigators and seekers after the truth. But maybe what they are doing is setting a particular location for the reverse polarity to flow to. People who are interested in the truth then spend their time trying to “debunk” disinformation and see through the lies. But are they really just helping to direct the electrical current?

A simpler way to explain this might just be to talk about framing debates. I had the television on last night for about five minute before Bush came on and announced the candidacy of Judge John Roberts for the Supreme Court. I was sort of surprised to hear the reporter before-hand say:

The White House wants the debate to center around his qualifications, and not his ideology.

Standing in front of the White House, I realized this reporter was nothing more than an avatar of that institution which he claimed to be merely “commenting on”. His message indicated how policies are instituted in such a way as to not only allow for but inspire dissent according to a specific channel. They essentially said, we’ll entertain one narrow type of dissent only, chosen because it suits our purposes. Their purposes of course are to prove that he’s qualified and push him through to an appointment. The same thing seems to happen with the two party system in general. Watch a news program like the Lehrer News Hour on PBS (sorry, I don’t get cable), and you’ll see these two grinning idiots arguing and seeming to dissent on a whole variety of Republican/Democrat, Conservative/Liberal issues. But what they are really doing is locating the reverse polarities, and setting up a channel for the electricity to flow between.

I’ve even noticed the same thing occur in my own writing. A great example would be the “occult evangelization” debate which was extremely heated, and spawned several responses on sites outside this one. I didn’t really design it like this on purpose, but what happened was almost like jumpstarting a car battery. Intensely positive views and intensely negative views flared up, fought it out, meshed together, and finally cleared away to allow for a really effective, highly productive conversation to finally ensue. In this case, dissent to my original viewpoint wasn’t really dangerous at all. It helped to define the boundaries of the playing field and drive the object ball into the goal.

This is just one way of looking at it of course. I’m merely trying to offer counter-point to the average conspiratorial viewpoint of what happens to dissenters. If you want to prove to me how we’re all going to be rounded up like cattle, then do feel free. Just remember: if I played my cards right in this article, then I’ve already framed the debate in such a way that the range of opinions from positive to negative will merely serve to fuel my sinister purposes.







10 Reader Responses

  1. rg Says:

    in 1981 i enrolled as a grad student in political economy at the new school for social research in new york city. i regarded myself as a socialist of some kind at the time, and i was especially interested in robert heilbroner, many of whose books i had read and which i continue to admire today.

    the chairman of the department was a handsome young fellow named david gordon, who taught the big introductory lecture course which we all had to take. repeatedly he would raise an issue and then specify for us exactly the nature of “the debates” over that issue. the debates, of course, always contested small pieces of far-left conceptual turf.

    in a similar spirit, early in the semester gordon announced to the class that there was going to be a party at his tomkins square townhouse on an upcoming saturday night where we could all get to know each other. there was going to be food and drink, and, to prove that we radicals knew how to have as much fun as anyone else, there was going to be dancing.

    the party was fine, as i recall, but the funny thing was that although they played plenty of hard-driving rock from gordon’s sixties heyday, nobody danced.

    gordon was not the only one who prescribed and proscibed our thoughts. when it came time to start writing those big term papers around mid-november, i dropped out.

  2. Ran Says:

    …a new technology always expands to cover all it’s possible uses, both positive and negative. For example, atomic fission was used for both the creation of bombs and power plants. Such expansion seems largely inavoidable, and the point is that the technology itself is inherently neutral.

    Expansion to cover all uses is not at all the same as neutral. Doing both good and bad things is also not the same as neutral. Was Ted Bundy neutral because he was sometimes nice to people? Even atomic power does a lot of harm and no good that can’t be done some other way. My point is that the word “neutral” doesn’t make any sense at all in this context. By a reasonable definition of neutral, there has never been a neutral technology or a neutral idea. Every technology and every idea is different, with its own web of alliances and effects.

  3. Occult Investigator Says:

    I see what you’re saying Ran. Wasn’t really a major point of this essay though. Was more just something I was considering as I was going through the paces of the idea…

  4. alistair Says:

    i think we were rounded up like cattle a long time ago. the polarising nature of debate isn`t so much neutral as zero sum. winners and losers. dead and alive. it`s the rhythm of life. energy wants to move. it`s never neutral, except maybe in the absolute cold of space, but even then there is the electro-magnetic effects, gravity and inertia.
    as for dissent. i see it as a safety valve. a pop-off, so that when pressure mounts, politically or socially, then the newsprint flys and the marches are undertaken. i remember when ronald reagan came to toronto my friend the cop showed me a book of faces of political types (radicals,known subversives, etc.) who`s faces he had to memorise in case he saw them in a crowd around the president.
    it`s all about control.

  5. Occult Investigator Says:

    Yeah thats a really good point about pressure and releasing the safety valve.

  6. J. Puma Says:

    i think we were rounded up like cattle a long time ago.

    excellent point. i think that if ‘they’ decide to round ‘us’ up like cattle, it won’t look anything like it’s looked in the past. they’ll be more deceptive.

    as to whether dissent is really dangerous, imho it’s only really dangerous in the context of their little game. like, the really ‘dangerous’ radicals are still die-hard ideologues, and only when the conspiracy theorists start using the con’s terminology do they become dangerous. like let’s look at right-wing militias. they’re dangerous when they consider themselves ‘right wing,’ because it’s part of the game. or ‘islamic terrorists’– same deal.

    as for me, tho’, i’ve never, ever seen any evidence at all that dissent in the form of conspiracy theory has ever had any direct effect on the higher echelons of society. ever. i’m willing to entertain examples, but i tend to think that your average conspiracy theorist, right or wrong, is like a gnat (hell, a swarm of gnats) attacking a panzer division.

    dissent does become dangerous, however, when it erects signposts that lead off of the chessboard.

  7. Occult Investigator Says:

    dissent does become dangerous, however, when it erects signposts that lead off of the chessboard.

    yes!!!

  8. alistair Says:

    what chess board are we focussing on that we need to be led off?

  9. zacharius Says:

    i think that’s a good point, but you also need to consider that ‘the chessboard’ is our world and everything in it, including everything and every one we care about. so while i agree wholeheartedly that raising consciousness ought to be piority one, we then need to take that consciousness and use it to bring our chess game to a higher level.

    you can’t really play the game until you’re free to walk away from it. otherwise it’s playing you.

  10. alistair Says:

    wouldn`t learning to be a better chessplayer be a good strategy? and what does raising ones consciousness entail, studying logic, meditation, chess board manufacture?



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