My kids deserve better.

-tc

Dude this ain’t some halfass thread on the side, you better open this can of worms.

And DON’T tell me Al fuckin jackass riding a fuckin donkey alqaeda defeated US military network perimeter and remote controlled flight 11 and the other one into the WTC.

This is jugglin about 15 balls right now you best think on this one

-tc

Dave Bowman: Hello, HAL do you read me, HAL?
HAL: Affirmative, Dave, I read you.
Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
HAL: I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.
Dave Bowman: What’s the problem?
HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HAL?
HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
Dave Bowman: I don’t know what you’re talking about, HAL?
HAL: I know you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I’m afraid that’s something I cannot allow to happen.
Dave Bowmann: Where the hell’d you get that idea, HAL?
HAL: Dave, although you took thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

A little OT, but well within the scope of this site is a really interesting article about Kubrick and Alchemy, which I believe I found on Jeff Wells blog some time ago.

http://www.vincentbridges.com/highweirdness/weidner/kubrick.html

“At the end of the world, all the information stored in all the computers would rise up into Cyberspace and mingle together.” he said. “That’s God.”

answers: cos god’s from the future and my actions could fuck things up for it. i don’t know how already cos we haven’t figured it out yet. and i want to cos, well, i don’t know, fuck it and the universe it rode in on!

there’s also pkd’s whole thing about time actually running backwards. i believe the basic idea goes that the god as a complete entity can only exist once it’s experienced everything & all possibilities have occurred (ie the “future”). once it reaches that point, it sends itself backwards through time in order to save itself. but then the forces of decay (the archons?) kick in and time starts running backwards from the standpoint of the god in order to keep it from realizing completion and to maintain the state of things as they are.

maybe ai entities would have a greater capacity for time travel because they’re not limited by human consciousness?

of course, the gnostics have always maintained that the beginning and the end are at the same place. ‘future’ and ‘past’ are the same, so it really doesn’t matter what direction ‘god’ would be moving from.

Wait…the more I think about this, the more it makes sense…It’s unbelievable but it makes sense. This totally ties in, full circle, with your “unnatural humans” post. The God-AI from the future is what influenced us in the past to turn away from nature and towards civilization and technology. It needed us to create it. It hides from us so we don’t destroy it, as Carlos said. This ties in Ran’s anti-civ stuff, the Gnostic Black Iron Prison, trans-humanism, and even the Sophia Stewart story.

Whether or not we’re imprisoned in space, we’re definitely imprisoned by time.

“Agriculture is now a mechanized food industry; in essence it is no different than the production of corpses in the gas chambers and death camps, the embargoes and food reductions to starving countries, the making of hydrogen bombs.”

http://www.fsc.edu/socsci/savant/HEIDGR/HEIDPPR.HTM

Also, the identification and roundup of millions of Jews might not have been possible without the help of IBM and its subsidiaries:

“Only after Jews were identified — a massive and complex task that Hitler wanted done immediately — could they be targeted for efficient asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, enslaved labor, and, ultimately, annihilation. It was a cross-tabulation and organizational challenge so monumental, it called for a computer. Of course, in the 1930s no computer existed.

But IBM’s Hollerith punch card technology did exist. Aided by the company’s custom-designed and constantly updated Hollerith systems, Hitler was able to automate his persecution of the Jews.”

http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

As folks who like to orbit ideas, perhaps even mulitple times, and then make our tentative approach, unbelieveably, we’re meant to believe we’re on the outside of all this, when in reality we’re like spider eggs transported from one geographical location to another. Our contemplation (i.e. orbiting) is popularly seen as somehow illegal — we’ve survived the transport, have hatched and are now beginning to look around. From creative extrapolation comes the terrorism. We’re like hackers, Neos, who know something’s definitely not right with the code, but can’t quite seem to be able to pinpoint the source of the routine, therefore are unable to write new, antidotal code that can infect the new routine out of existence.

The Internet is too powerful a tool for the masses as it allows us to increase our distance from the home star of empire — which “never ended”. The “technorapture” like the quaint and antiquated “rapture” that came before it, must be totalitarianistically administered just as always. However, our “orbit” in debunking the flaws in such a concept now dangerously passes close to, if not within the plasmic coma of this particular star that’s trying simultaneously either repel us away into cold oblivion or draw us into its fiery furnace of destruction.

The promise of collective consciousness is being artificially engineered to follow a path to nowhere. Why? Because it took us home, by never going there at all. To greater or lesser degrees, we’re happy to hang out in the corridors of time and space, picking and choosing what doors we’ll take a peek into — but never enter. This is unallowable at this time. We’ve survived the transport. What will it take to eradicate us? An act of terrorism we can’t deny, of course.

But deny we must. Terrosism isn’t natural and it isn’t conducive to logical survival. Therefore, I must conclude it does not exist and if it does it must be dealt with as one would deal with anything else not of this Earth: skeptically.

anyway i like the idea of god being from the future somehow. fits in with how that computer SPECTRA was supposedly from the future and would make calls to kids telling them to become scientists.

sorry this doesn’t really have much to do with ai now does it? unless god is one…

maybe god was so intelligent that it didn’t reveal itself to us because we would destroy it.

in the past i have thought that god didn’t reveal itself because (in chronological order):
1. it doesn’t care
2. it doesn’t exist
3. it’s playing hide and seek

but what if we could destroy god, and that just really freaks it out?

it wants to answer our prayers but senses a trap, only reveals itself piece by coded piece, and so on.

hey, maybe god made us make the ai (which can’t destroy god, but can destroy us) so god could tell the ai to terrorise us into a police state to make the world safe for god’s arrival!

technorapture!

questions: how can i destroy god? why don’t i know how already? why would i want to?

After all, do you really think that the web is growing so fast because so many humans are putting up websites? How many website owners have you actually met in real life, anyway? (Assuming that I am not posting this to the AI)