Comments on: Behavioral Science Education Project http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/27/behavioral-science-education-project/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:59:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Gary http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/27/behavioral-science-education-project/comment-page-1/#comment-4084 Gary Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:58:03 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/27/behavioral-science-education-project/#comment-4084 I recall clearly when I first read about Gatto in the New York Times magazine. I was impressed but suspicious. (See what the system can do to a wild-eyed optimist?) I still remember that morning in bed zipping over to his website on my laptop. It changed a lot for me. That afternoon I bought the book. Two days later I decided my oldest daughter would not be attending hish school and my youngest daughter would never go to public school at all. I mentioned before in Tim's comments that I used to wonder where all the other people like me are. I think I am finding them. I have always loved education but was shockingly disappointed be the system at every turn. (still am, the funny thing about life is no matter how bad it is, it can always get worse) I have always felt and have tried to impress upon my friends and family and anyone interested in hearing that we have an obligation and responisbility to ourselves and our fellow humans to learn. In general but in our society in particular the obligation to be an avid learner is particularly strong. Free time is a luxury that should be judiciously spent and learning is ultimatly the best way to spend free time. A gift, imho, earned by the blood sweat and tears of our ancestors. To me, the only logical way to spend the majority of free time that is allowed to us by our advances in technology, culture etc is to learn. It seems illogical and even a bit insane not to learn. Home schooling is very daunting to me - last summer I taught my oldest algebra over the summer. It was good and fun and even her favorite subject but still took a lot of time and effort. The system had really spoiled and narrowed her point of view. This summer is a little easier - we are doing spanish lessons together. The work is harder for her (she doesnt like spanish at all as much as algebra) but I have managed to instill a value for learning that eight years of school could not and so she goes about our tasks cheerfully enough. My soon to be born daughter will never go to public school and if I can help it will entirely completely home taught. Montessori schools, (part time only) have not been ruled out, however. I recall clearly when I first read about Gatto in the New York Times magazine. I was impressed but suspicious. (See what the system can do to a wild-eyed optimist?)

I still remember that morning in bed zipping over to his website on my laptop. It changed a lot for me. That afternoon I bought the book. Two days later I decided my oldest daughter would not be attending hish school and my youngest daughter would never go to public school at all.

I mentioned before in Tim’s comments that I used to wonder where all the other people like me are. I think I am finding them. I have always loved education but was shockingly disappointed be the system at every turn. (still am, the funny thing about life is no matter how bad it is, it can always get worse)

I have always felt and have tried to impress upon my friends and family and anyone interested in hearing that we have an obligation and responisbility to ourselves and our fellow humans to learn. In general but in our society in particular the obligation to be an avid learner is particularly strong. Free time is a luxury that should be judiciously spent and learning is ultimatly the best way to spend free time. A gift, imho, earned by the blood sweat and tears of our ancestors. To me, the only logical way to spend the majority of free time that is allowed to us by our advances in technology, culture etc is to learn. It seems illogical and even a bit insane not to learn.

Home schooling is very daunting to me - last summer I taught my oldest algebra over the summer. It was good and fun and even her favorite subject but still took a lot of time and effort. The system had really spoiled and narrowed her point of view. This summer is a little easier - we are doing spanish lessons together. The work is harder for her (she doesnt like spanish at all as much as algebra) but I have managed to instill a value for learning that eight years of school could not and so she goes about our tasks cheerfully enough.

My soon to be born daughter will never go to public school and if I can help it will entirely completely home taught. Montessori schools, (part time only) have not been ruled out, however.

]]> By: alistair http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/27/behavioral-science-education-project/comment-page-1/#comment-4080 alistair Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:32:58 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/27/behavioral-science-education-project/#comment-4080 highly sophisticated mind control mechanisms being implemented by rote-learned robots. is the average teacher aware of the type of things they are doing to children? i have heard my children tell me that thier teachers will give them candy as reward for right answers like you would train a dog but some of that shit is deep. highly sophisticated mind control mechanisms being implemented by rote-learned robots. is the average teacher aware of the type of things they are doing to children? i have heard my children tell me that thier teachers will give them candy as reward for right answers like you would train a dog but some of that shit is deep.

]]> By: Arizona http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/27/behavioral-science-education-project/comment-page-1/#comment-4079 Arizona Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:28:44 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/07/27/behavioral-science-education-project/#comment-4079 Yep, using those 4 stages of spiritual development, this is stage III moderns dismissing (even harassing or persecuting) stage II believers (who, in their turn, persecuted stage I barbarians). And the stage IV mystics roll their eyes in wonder at it all. Yep, using those 4 stages of spiritual development, this is stage III moderns dismissing (even harassing or persecuting) stage II believers (who, in their turn, persecuted stage I barbarians). And the stage IV mystics roll their eyes in wonder at it all.

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