Comments on: The Occult & the Experience of God http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:46:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: The Effects of the Occult - Pop Occulture http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-7907 The Effects of the Occult - Pop Occulture Sat, 26 Nov 2005 00:20:54 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/#comment-7907 [...] #8217;s lots we could say here in response. First, I want to bring up something I’ve talked about briefly before, but which Christian anti-occultists a [...] [...] #8217;s lots we could say here in response. First, I want to bring up something I’ve talked about briefly before, but which Christian anti-occultists a [...]

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-5606 Tim Boucher Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:22:42 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/#comment-5606 <blockquote>Some people worship God by saying they hate him and that he doesn’t exist.</blockquote> Awesome. <blockquote>But what about the likes of me, who can’t get through a ritual without cracking up and ruining the required solemn energy needed to cast a spell that will make us all rich?</blockquote> Yeah I have the same problem, more or less. Well, I'm not convinced it's a problem.

Some people worship God by saying they hate him and that he doesn’t exist.

Awesome.

But what about the likes of me, who can’t get through a ritual without cracking up and ruining the required solemn energy needed to cast a spell that will make us all rich?

Yeah I have the same problem, more or less. Well, I’m not convinced it’s a problem.

]]> By: james http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-5604 james Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:09:04 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/#comment-5604 In re: Hello's comments-- It isn't depressing to think of life as absurd, devoid of intrinsic meaning. In fact, it is liberating. What this view of existence says (to me) is that I am the one who fills in the meaning in my life. To allow others to impose their definiton of existence upon me is the true absurdity. I like to think of Life as a joke... a very serious joke. And that makes God the gag writer, Jesus the stand-up comic, and the Holy Spirit is his audience. Satan is a heckler in that audience, and we humans are the set-ups and the punchlines to each joke. Or, if you prefer to believe something else, I can accomodate you on that, thanks to the elasticity of absurdism. We touch God and experience proof of his existence every day, but everyone has a unique way of filtering it. Some people worship God by saying they hate him and that he doesn't exist. It's a perfectly valid form of worship, one that I indulge in every so often. Others tend to overdo it and take everything the Bible says literally, to which I say: "Hey, whatever works for you, pally!" The occult is another avenue for people searching to escape themselves. But what about the likes of me, who can't get through a ritual without cracking up and ruining the required solemn energy needed to cast a spell that will make us all rich? What alternative do I have? You can't cheat at magic, can you? I am happiest when the road isn't clear, when a deep fog has set upon the road. Why? Because then you have to say "Fuck my eyes" and go off of your other senses, all eight of them. You have to navigate all 17 trillion dimensions this way, and I have to admit it gets me all hot and bothered to do so. I spoke to God last week, and he told me that the bus fare is $1.25, but that for $3 I could get an all-day pass. I took this as a sign that he likes me. In re: Hello’s comments– It isn’t depressing to think of life as absurd, devoid of intrinsic meaning. In fact, it is liberating. What this view of existence says (to me) is that I am the one who fills in the meaning in my life. To allow others to impose their definiton of existence upon me is the true absurdity.

I like to think of Life as a joke… a very serious joke. And that makes God the gag writer, Jesus the stand-up comic, and the Holy Spirit is his audience. Satan is a heckler in that audience, and we humans are the set-ups and the punchlines to each joke.

Or, if you prefer to believe something else, I can accomodate you on that, thanks to the elasticity of absurdism.

We touch God and experience proof of his existence every day, but everyone has a unique way of filtering it. Some people worship God by saying they hate him and that he doesn’t exist. It’s a perfectly valid form of worship, one that I indulge in every so often. Others tend to overdo it and take everything the Bible says literally, to which I say: “Hey, whatever works for you, pally!”

The occult is another avenue for people searching to escape themselves. But what about the likes of me, who can’t get through a ritual without cracking up and ruining the required solemn energy needed to cast a spell that will make us all rich? What alternative do I have? You can’t cheat at magic, can you?

I am happiest when the road isn’t clear, when a deep fog has set upon the road. Why? Because then you have to say “Fuck my eyes” and go off of your other
senses, all eight of them. You have to navigate all 17 trillion dimensions this way, and I have to admit it gets me all hot and bothered to do so.

I spoke to God last week, and he told me that the bus fare is $1.25, but that for $3 I could get an all-day pass. I took this as a sign that he likes me.

]]> By: sparkwidget http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-5578 sparkwidget Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:47:11 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/#comment-5578 How many so-called occultists are convinced they talk to God, and are actually just conversing with their little egos? Or Christians for that matter... The road isn't particularly clear and one of the reasons the "occult" get slandered is its easy to fall into error without rules and supports propping you up. How many so-called occultists are convinced they talk to God, and are actually just conversing with their little egos? Or Christians for that matter…

The road isn’t particularly clear and one of the reasons the “occult” get slandered is its easy to fall into error without rules and supports propping you up.

]]> By: Pop Occulture » The Struggle Towards the Mystical http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-5505 Pop Occulture » The Struggle Towards the Mystical Mon, 05 Sep 2005 04:20:29 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/#comment-5505 [...] or direct experience of the divine, a reader calling themselves “Hello” left a great comment which I think really speaks to the hear [...] [...] or direct experience of the divine, a reader calling themselves “Hello” left a great comment which I think really speaks to the hear [...]

]]> By: Hello http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-5497 Hello Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:39:37 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/#comment-5497 I find a flat materialistic, positivist(?), rationalist view of life to be unfullfilling. But I feel tormented because the left part of my conditioned brain knows it should accept no supernatural explanations for anything. It is depressing to think we live in an absurd universe which has no instrinsic meaning because there is no spirit, nothing transcendental. I don't want existential dread! I use to be able to sidestep the issue of God with the word Tao and it worked for a while. But now I am back to feeling at times existence is just a cruel material fluke. Are we just evolved soulless animals with consciousness? Or are we spiritual beings who are eternal? But i'm sure I'll go back to realizing the obvious fact life is so vast, wide and deep, that beliefs (even rationalist beliefs) are nothing compared to pure silent wonder. And to let the quiet mind can feel a certain 'magic' of possibility(when the right part of my brain feels liberated for a while and it has no need or worry about God or explanations.) "Man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern" Blake I find a flat materialistic, positivist(?), rationalist view of life to be unfullfilling. But I feel tormented because the left part of my conditioned brain knows it should accept no supernatural explanations for anything.
It is depressing to think we live in an absurd universe which has no instrinsic meaning because there is no spirit, nothing transcendental. I don’t want existential dread! I use to be able to sidestep the issue of God with the word Tao and it worked for a while. But now I am back to feeling at times existence is just a cruel material fluke. Are we just evolved soulless animals with consciousness? Or are we spiritual beings who are eternal?
But i’m sure I’ll go back to realizing the obvious fact life is so vast, wide and deep, that beliefs (even rationalist beliefs) are nothing compared to pure silent wonder. And to let the quiet mind can feel a certain ‘magic’ of possibility(when the right part of my brain feels liberated for a while and it has no need or worry about God or explanations.)
“Man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro’ narrow chinks of his cavern” Blake

]]> By: Amped http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-5496 Amped Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:04:08 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/04/the-occult-the-experience-of-god/#comment-5496 <em>"The occult seems to be about calling God out of his hiding place."</em> An interesting turn of phrase! It reminds of the saying that the best way to hide something is to place it right out in the open. “The occult seems to be about calling God out of his hiding place.” An interesting turn of phrase! It reminds of the saying that the best way to hide something is to place it right out in the open.

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