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Cast Spells Online!
Just came across an interesting service from the “California Astrology Association” where you can order spells online and have them cast for you from afar. You can order anything from attracting money, overcoming regrets or attracting a gay lover - plus a lot more. Looks like you also have the option for some of these to have them cast the spell for you, and others where they send you a kit so you can cast it yourself. The spells seem to run from around $20 to upwards of $50.
I used to think this kind of stuff was totally wonky, but now I’m more of the opinion that if this is how people want to spend their time and money, then I don’t see what’s wrong with it. The whole idea of ordering spells online though, despite their one-year money back guarantee, does kind of make you wonder what verification you have that (1) the spell’s going to be cast, and (2) that it will work (assuming you believe in this type of stuff).
What’s your take on this type of online spell-casting system? I’m curious what occultists think of it, versus people who don’t engage in these types of practices on their own. Would you ever use something like this? Have you ever used something like this? Would you use this site/service if it was perhaps presented differently? Have you ever had somebody else cast a spell for you? Do you think it’s an appropriate solution to life problems, and if so in what circumstances? What are the relative risks and benefits between casting a spell yourself and having somebody else do it on your behalf?
Another sort of silly speculative question I just thought of: could you program a robot to perform religious rituals and cast spells on your behalf? What if you had an army of robots doing it? Has anybody ever used any of those computer programs that are supposed to continuously cast spells? What was your experience with them?
September 19th, 2005 at 4:24 pm
all of what we do is based on belief. if we believe the spell will work, then we will utilise whatever means necessary to cast the spell. having a one year guarantee is part of what we call in nlp future pacing. it gives the idea that the spell will last at least that long. the psychic hotlines have made millions on t.v. and online, why not spellcasting?
September 19th, 2005 at 4:50 pm
This seems rather odd. I have my usual response: why not do it yourself? Or, why not ask someone you know and trust? Maybe the Deliriously Rich spell doesn’t work unless you cast it for someone else, but I still don’t feel like trusting these people. Who offers to break up a couple for you?
September 19th, 2005 at 5:07 pm
Well, none of these spells seem like things that your local neighborhood sorceror wouldn’t do for you - for a price. From that perspective, this seems perfectly legitimate. Although in terms of the archetypal neighborhood sorceror, I wonder if part of the strength of somebody like that is that they’re an active part of your community…
In terms of why would you get somebody else to do this stuff for you, I guess I’d counter with another question: why would you get somebody else to build a car for you, or a television set? Cause some people have the skills and training and inclination to do this stuff
September 19th, 2005 at 5:47 pm
i always wonder how successful stuff like this really is– i mean, in the base material sense. like, do they have hundreds of people who sign up each day? are they able to make a living casting spells for profit? i wonder if there’s any way to ask ‘em, maybe do an interview?
September 19th, 2005 at 6:39 pm
Yeah, I’m actually really curious. I really ought to do them an interview, cause that’s business for them and curiousity satisfied for me. Maybe I will.
September 19th, 2005 at 7:57 pm
money is for pissing away. go for it, i reckon.
i have had someone else cast a spell for me, it went like this: “honey, i’m sick. call the doctor, i need antibiotics.” she activated several sigils in the correct sequence and the doctor’s attendant aggreed to hear my plea. at his temple i was examined and received the appropriate dispensation.
regarding trust, my auto mechanic is an active part of the community. he rips me off as much as he can get away with. the degree that his mechanical knowledge surpasses my own is preceisely the amount of power he has to take advantage of me. it would be “better” for me to fix my car myself, i would reagin my power. but as they say: who has the time?
that’s why we have communities. i can’t do everything myself. or in another sense everyone is a sorcerer, just directing their energy towards different things, like flower arranging and golf. i see no real harm in this.
hey wait a minute, i don’t need a car except to facillitate my enslavement to the system. maybe my “spiritual vehicle” is similarly disempowering, whether i cast my own spells or not. this might not be the best place to suggest this, but perhaps magic of any kind is just another “matrix” (not being materialistic or nihilistic, just a little antagonistic).
they’ve got these already. they’re called congregations. oh, and patriots.
i might. is she hot?
September 19th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
spells for money…
isn’t the purchaser really the magician who has the ACTUAL beginning force, money.
these philosophic ideas don’t seem to coincide with your traditional quid pro quo transactions.
i guess it seems, that if you’re of any higher level of thinking/believing
i.e. capable of asking all the questions asked on here
than chances are the most successful magick(in your life) would need to be worked by you.
September 19th, 2005 at 10:39 pm
correct in one. we are the gods who make the grass green.
September 19th, 2005 at 11:03 pm
i thought it was chlorophyll
September 20th, 2005 at 3:32 am
I had actually considered doing something like this at one point (never did anything about it, though).
I think that by spending the money, and by believing that the spell will work, the person paying for the service will end up getting the results they desire (in this case, the act of paying for the spell becomes a spell in itself). In a way, this could be a way to get the customer to access their own innate magic(k)al abilities.
I did buy a spell kit once, and it worked fine for me, but then I do not see the deifference between buying the components all together in a kit, and looking for each component separratelly.
September 20th, 2005 at 3:52 am
What I’ve been told is that the magician is hjust a facilitator who is learned in certain techniques, knows who to bargain with and who to manipulate. As far as “karmic consequences” or whatever that is between the client and whatever god they believe in.
September 20th, 2005 at 9:11 am
Does anyone realize they’re paying someone either to drink cough syrup, smear bodily fluids onto a piece of clay, or talk to invisible things that may not even exist outside the his head? Fuck it. I’ll cast any spell you want, and I’ll do it for fifteen dollars, plus expenses approved by the client.
September 20th, 2005 at 9:48 am
Many “magic techniques” don’t seem to have any causal theory at all. Sigil magick has a metaphysic behind it, so does elemental invocation and so forth. So does prayer. But a lot of new age spellbooks seem to ignore the question of exactly how the spell is supposed to work. I don’t need a mathematical predictive formula, but I need to have some sort of minimal hand-waving explanation, not just a list of ingredients to combine.
How is a computer program going to “cast a spell”?
September 20th, 2005 at 11:25 am
Channel Null, if you don’t even believe these things exist, why would I pay you to try and influence them on my behalf?
September 20th, 2005 at 3:54 pm
We have no reason to think these people have any special talent. A talent for con-games probably has value, but for all I know, Channel Null could out-trick them. And I can’t help but think of the joke:
Q: What’s the difference between Pagan and New Age?
A: A decimal point.
But with a weaselly “Not My Fault” escape clause.
So if you don’t trust someone enough to commit a crime with them, don’t place your karma in their hands. ^_^
September 20th, 2005 at 4:03 pm
I can agree with that.
September 20th, 2005 at 4:08 pm
Interesting they also sell witchdoctor spell kits
why not buy them from luckymojo.com instead
they’re cheaper and the real deal too
as far as paying someone else to do this stuff
s’ok i guess but you wouldn’t learn anything from it
its not like things are particularly dangerous at this level so why not
hoodoo works via spirits but you don’t find out why and how until you do it yourself and that can also be very fun and fanny too
September 20th, 2005 at 7:38 pm
I didn’t say they don’t exist. Currently, I suspect that critters may be something of the interface for humans to access occulted currents of reality–e.g., how is it a frequently charged sigil becomes, seemingly on its own, a servitor? The phenomenology of sigils suggests most of the change occurs inside, not outside, so it would seem to follow that a servitor acts in a similar manner. Granted, that is a nuanced view that would need simplification were I to sell myself.