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		<title>By: Ah, To Be a Caveman Again - Pop Occulture Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/29/pinchbeck-on-steiner/comment-page-1/#comment-23820</link>
		<dc:creator>Ah, To Be a Caveman Again - Pop Occulture Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s a nice quote I found a while back by psychedelic author Daniel Pinchbeck where he is referencing the work of mystic Rudolf Steiner, one of his heros. Pinchbeck explains that: â€œThinking, for him, is a part of reality - as much a part of reality as any physical object. He points out that we have no right to consider a plantâ€™s ability to produce leaves, roots, and blossoms as separate from the thoughts we have about that plant. It may be that our thoughts about the plant are as much a property of that plant as its blossoms, stems, and leaves.â€ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s a nice quote I found a while back by psychedelic author Daniel Pinchbeck where he is referencing the work of mystic Rudolf Steiner, one of his heros. Pinchbeck explains that: â€œThinking, for him, is a part of reality - as much a part of reality as any physical object. He points out that we have no right to consider a plantâ€™s ability to produce leaves, roots, and blossoms as separate from the thoughts we have about that plant. It may be that our thoughts about the plant are as much a property of that plant as its blossoms, stems, and leaves.â€ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Calling All Jedi!	- 
	Pop Occulture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calling All Jedi!	- 
	Pop Occulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] today, or how strung out Angelina Jolie looked yesterday. There&#8217;s a Daniel Pinchbeck quote I like which I think could be applied here: 	Steiner believed that the b [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] today, or how strung out Angelina Jolie looked yesterday. There&#8217;s a Daniel Pinchbeck quote I like which I think could be applied here: 	Steiner believed that the b [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 04:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Right has been studying The Leftâ€™s playbook for the past two decades, and were making strides in their cause by co-opting the very tactics that cause right-wingers to decry â€œthe liberal mediaâ€ in the first place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They've done an amazing job - just keeping up a steady drumbeat.

The latest thing you see on conservative chatboards is the phrase "liberal fascist." It doesn't matter if it makes any sense or not just use it every chance you get until it becomes a commonplace that nobody questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Right has been studying The Leftâ€™s playbook for the past two decades, and were making strides in their cause by co-opting the very tactics that cause right-wingers to decry â€œthe liberal mediaâ€ in the first place.</p></blockquote>
<p>They&#8217;ve done an amazing job - just keeping up a steady drumbeat.</p>
<p>The latest thing you see on conservative chatboards is the phrase &#8220;liberal fascist.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t matter if it makes any sense or not just use it every chance you get until it becomes a commonplace that nobody questions.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've never read Steiner but his comment about The Left's negativity bears comment from me, because I noticed (before Bush Jr. "took office") that The Right has been studying The Left's playbook for the past two decades, and were making strides in their cause by co-opting the very tactics that cause right-wingers to decry "the liberal media" in the first place.

Whatever negativity and strident protest The Left inspired in the '60s (SDS and the Yippies come to mind) The Right has improved upon it and made it work for them. 

This explains why lots of Democrats seem to be kowtowing to Republican demands: they are responding to the overwhelming pressure that is coming from The Right  like gangbusters.

Thank God for catastrophe and human incompetence, the two things I hold sacred in this world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never read Steiner but his comment about The Left&#8217;s negativity bears comment from me, because I noticed (before Bush Jr. &#8220;took office&#8221;) that The Right has been studying The Left&#8217;s playbook for the past two decades, and were making strides in their cause by co-opting the very tactics that cause right-wingers to decry &#8220;the liberal media&#8221; in the first place.</p>
<p>Whatever negativity and strident protest The Left inspired in the &#8217;60s (SDS and the Yippies come to mind) The Right has improved upon it and made it work for them. </p>
<p>This explains why lots of Democrats seem to be kowtowing to Republican demands: they are responding to the overwhelming pressure that is coming from The Right  like gangbusters.</p>
<p>Thank God for catastrophe and human incompetence, the two things I hold sacred in this world!</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waking logic never makes quite as much sense as that sort of hypnogogic dream logic but at the time I felt as though I had resolved life's depest riddle. Of course it loses something in the retelling though.

The world is real/not real
spirits are internal/external
i am self-contained/boudaryless
ideas are true/false

etc

both at once in every instance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waking logic never makes quite as much sense as that sort of hypnogogic dream logic but at the time I felt as though I had resolved life&#8217;s depest riddle. Of course it loses something in the retelling though.</p>
<p>The world is real/not real<br />
spirits are internal/external<br />
i am self-contained/boudaryless<br />
ideas are true/false</p>
<p>etc</p>
<p>both at once in every instance</p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it has always puzzled me why we keep building more powerful particle accelerators to fire that particle with greater force into another particle for a split second of slightly bigger fireworks. we aren`t creating different particles, just different sparks.
and yes, lets stop putting life into negative stuff, choose the positive instead. that`s what meditation is for. the third eye is the the first wysiwyg device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it has always puzzled me why we keep building more powerful particle accelerators to fire that particle with greater force into another particle for a split second of slightly bigger fireworks. we aren`t creating different particles, just different sparks.<br />
and yes, lets stop putting life into negative stuff, choose the positive instead. that`s what meditation is for. the third eye is the the first wysiwyg device.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, that's a great point about wave/particle duality being a metaphor for a new kind of thinking that can be applied across the board. Never thought about it like that but it makes perfect sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, that&#8217;s a great point about wave/particle duality being a metaphor for a new kind of thinking that can be applied across the board. Never thought about it like that but it makes perfect sense.</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can't recommend any steiner but as I was drifting out of sleep this morning and into the world of the waking the quantum physics wave-particle duality was in my mind as a paradigm with multiple applications - true about everything at the deepest level

the world is real from certian angles, an illusion from other, but what it really is we cannot know

spirits are independent entities form one angle, psychological angles from another, etc.

I am a self-contained ego from one angle, a part of my environment with no boudaries from another (where do i stiop and the outside world begins?) 

ideas are true from one angle, false from another etc

the&lt;a href="http://home.btclick.com/scimah/anthropism.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt; Participatory anthropic principle&lt;/a&gt; really does seem the best explanation to me some days

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t recommend any steiner but as I was drifting out of sleep this morning and into the world of the waking the quantum physics wave-particle duality was in my mind as a paradigm with multiple applications - true about everything at the deepest level</p>
<p>the world is real from certian angles, an illusion from other, but what it really is we cannot know</p>
<p>spirits are independent entities form one angle, psychological angles from another, etc.</p>
<p>I am a self-contained ego from one angle, a part of my environment with no boudaries from another (where do i stiop and the outside world begins?) </p>
<p>ideas are true from one angle, false from another etc</p>
<p>the<a href="http://home.btclick.com/scimah/anthropism.htm" rel="nofollow"> Participatory anthropic principle</a> really does seem the best explanation to me some days</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm into Steiner's Agriculture lectures right now and find them deeply illuminating:
http://www.garudabd.org/Agriccourse/contents.html
Lots of material on the Steiner Archive:
http://www.rsarchive.org/Books/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m into Steiner&#8217;s Agriculture lectures right now and find them deeply illuminating:<br />
<a href="http://www.garudabd.org/Agriccourse/contents.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.garudabd.org/Agriccourse/contents.html'>http://www.garudabd.org/Agriccourse/contents.html</a><br />
Lots of material on the Steiner Archive:<br />
<a href="http://www.rsarchive.org/Books/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.rsarchive.org/Books/'>http://www.rsarchive.org/Books/</a></p>
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		<title>By: channel null</title>
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		<dc:creator>channel null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can't reccommend, but I can de-recommend &lt;i&gt;How to Know Higher Worlds&lt;/i&gt;, it's a very supplemental guide and offers little in the way of "thinking" or theory.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can&#8217;t reccommend, but I can de-recommend <i>How to Know Higher Worlds</i>, it&#8217;s a very supplemental guide and offers little in the way of &#8220;thinking&#8221; or theory.</p>
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