Somebody sent me a link to a very uninformative webpage about the Freemasons, the Illuminati and gnosticism. I can’t tell if they are for it or against it (although the vague Bible quotes lead me to believe they are against it). But it seems that they are re-stating the popular notion you’ll hear at times that members of certain “evil” secret societies are essentially gnostic.
Now, I personally don’t believe the Freemasons are evil, although there may historically have been some bad eggs in the bunch. And I am honestly not that current on all the latest Illuminati lore. But I do think this is an interesting topic: are the shadowy “power elites” behind all the best conspiracy theories actually gnostics, either at heart or in practice?
This does of course once again open up the sticky debate of what actually is gnosticism. I’ve still not gotten an answer on that yet that I’m totally satisfied with, although there are plenty of different approaches to answering it. In any event, if anybody comes across some good information on particularly the Illuminati and their connection to classical gnosticism, I’d like to see it. A lot of the references linking the two I’m finding online are by Christian groups opposed to what they perceive as gnosticism and the shadowy threat of the NWO. But there must be some good information available on the subject. Is the New World Order going to be ruled by gnostics? Is the world already rules by gnostics?
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Boy, I wish I had an answer to this one. I have a book on “Gnostic Philosophy” I bought at a cheap remainder bookstore. The author is a Freemason, which has made me disinclined to even read it. I have a deep suspicion of Masonry, due to their secretiveness, and also due to their involvement in law enforcement and the highest levels of government.
I have *never* felt like I’ve been able to get a straight answer on what Freemasonry is all about. If it’s benign, why is it secretive? If it’s totally ineffectual, then why does it persist over time? There must be some benefit to being a Mason, otherwise people wouldn’t continue to do it.
I can think of two possible reasons for the connection:
The Freemasons being associated with “gnosis” in a general sense, i.e., their claim to “secret” knowledge.
Their association with certain “gnostic” historical artifacts.
Well, I think Freemasons in particular have a pretty clear line of gnostic descent through the Sufis, European esotericism (alchemy, etc) and the Knights Templars - but I’ve not really seen anybody connect it effectively to what I know of gnosticism via Nag Hammadi. I guess more in particular what I meant had to do with “ruling elites” rather than strictly Masons
Man, I hope so. I’ve always wanted to be a power elite.
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Scott, could you post something briefly here about your personal connection with both Freemasonry and Gnosticism? I think it would be useful for people trying to sort this issue out….
I read a book about different Gnostic traditions and some of the rituals used the bodies sacred fluids, semen and menses, and use it for spiritual purposes, sometimes with orgies or sacred sex rituals, they’d eat it. I read this and thought about what I read in one of David Icke’s books about what he says the “Satanic rituals of the Illuminati” are, which is basically the same as what I read in the Gnostic book. I don’t have the book lying around here so I can’t get it and show you passages but I think you could probably google it. Ooh found it.
http://www.halexandria.org/dward269.htm
heres and interesting thing on gnostics by an academic philospher with a great web site
http://www.friesian.org/pagels.htm
(by way of a book review).
Ha! That’s the setup for one of the greatest one-liners of all time, from Foucalt’s Pendulum.
“That’s absolutely disgusting. Honey and pepper?!”
” What actually is Gnosticism? ”
Gnosis is Greek for knowledge. The Jews taught that Works was the way to earn God’s grace. The Christians taught that Faith was the key to salvation. The Gnostics were people who said: No, Knowledge is The Way. That’s why The Authorities tried to stamp them out.
This is why E. Pagels titled her book on Gnosticism “Beyond Belief”. Belief is Evil. The Archons want us all to have belief not knowledge; they even seem to prefer that we have different beliefs, so we’ll fight each other, rather than unite to throw off their domination (the domination of The Lie).
Trying to find the right beliefs is a program of the Matrix. Finding out what the truth is no matter what it turns out to actually be is The Way to re-member who you really are ( aka “Gnosticism”).
It seems to me the Illuminati, as I’ve seen them described, would be “black gnostics.” Like a black magician (such as Joseph Smith), they have not laid down their egos to be picked again at higher qualitative levels. Witness, for example, Smith’s convenient theology that tells us only white, heterosexual males are meant for divinity. They also compound their error by “keeping it in the family,” if you will. Everyone’s divine; everyone’s meant for bigger things.
“Black,” btw, refers to the color of the earth. This is in contrast to a white magician/gnostic, who HAS risen to a higher qualitative level. Think Gandalf in “Lord of the Rings.”
I get what you’re saying, although I don’t know that black/earth magick is necessarily bad or inferior or if it just has that stigma attached to it…
Depends- are we talking actual illuminati, or modern conspiracy illuminati?
I don’t know that I’ve ever heard anybody give any information to make that distinction. But I’d certainly like to hear it.
There’s the rub, now, isn’t it? I think Bob Wilson’s claim goes “everyone is their own free mason,” i.e., own Grand Architect, makes a lot of sense…
But then you run into the fact that the Freemasons was a quasi-political-spiritual organization; for my purposes here, by “Freemason” I mean both the masons specifically and all that Theosophic nonsense. If we confined the “illuminati” to the benign Sufis and Zen masters, we’d be alright–I think this is what Wilson meant in Prometheus Rising.
But then you read Cosmic Trigger–which I think is more important to understanding Wilson than Prometheus Rising–and suddenly, you see that he suspects the Sufi-style illumination is tied to the Sirius current, which is a keystone to the Freemasons and all those politically-oriented Theosophists. It’s a morass.