Comments on: Can Aliens Love Jesus?

By: Best Of Pop Occulture (Classic Era) - [tmbchr]â„¢

Best Of Pop Occulture (Classic Era) - [tmbchr]â„¢ — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:56:32 +0000

[...] CAN ALIENS LOVE JESUS? [...]

By: alistair

alistair — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:35:53 +0000

i don`t think it makes any more sense any way we try to relate to stories that are so obscure. just try to read old testament stuff for more than a couple of sentances. people who adhere to rigid interperpretations of these writings set themselves up for eventual ridicule. if the bible is the absolute word of god, he was one confused dude.

By: Uni

Uni — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:36:17 +0000

I think Jehovah and probably Jesus too were aliens. It all makes sense if you think of it that way. The burning bush (video terminal), the cloud and pillar of fire (flying saucer). Jesus being taken physically into the clouds (beam me up Scotty). Makes about as much sense as the other explanation.

By: alistair

alistair — Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:19:09 +0000

i tend to agree with the self-aware bit. i have three housecats, one of whom is scarily self aware in that subjective unmeasurable yet real way that wants me to feed and house is skinny, arrogant ass. the danger with romanticising the self-aware bit too much is that we start giving them rights and legal representation and lobby groups start a campaign and school children with tears in thier eyes start calling people murderers just because they eat meat. we are carniverous praedators, it`s what we do. if god hadn`t meant us to eat animals he shouldn`t have made them out of meat.

By: Emerson

Emerson — Mon, 24 Oct 2005 02:59:56 +0000

I wasnâ€™t exactly romanticizing dolphin intelligence, just commenting on the stupidity of prepping to baptize an unknown form of life.

I was, and continue to do so, at least for bottlenose dolphins. They combine a high EQ, abnormally large development of the neocortex in general and specific regions in particular, and members of the species have passed several tests of self awareness and abstract thought. Along with the scientifically worthless, but still interesting, anecdotal evidence I’m pretty much OK with placing them into the realm of the self-aware.

By: alistair

alistair — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 22:48:39 +0000

it`s kinda funny to prep to baptise anything, other than a boat. and hitting living things with a champagne bottle is a federal offence i believe.
He said several of his â€œabducteesâ€ had stopped their abduction experiences by screaming â€œJesus is my saviorâ€ when aliens were next seen……
…………goes to my theory about all these experiences being internal. like fear, we create the thing to be afraid of, get afraid of it and then demand that it is real for others too.
i believe that we create it all in our heads. the consensus is that it exists externally and independantly also. o.k., no necessity to argue that away. it seems to be consistant, at least for my 45 years.

By: McCoy

McCoy — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 22:18:49 +0000

He said several of his â€œabducteesâ€ had stopped their abduction experiences by screaming â€œJesus is my saviorâ€ when aliens were next seen

Itâ€™s like screaming â€œuncleâ€ before the bullies start a thrashing- Thatâ€™s right my sweet bitch, Jesus is you savior, and donâ€™t go thinking anything different.

Hungry fishies eat a lot.

By: SubstanceM

SubstanceM — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 22:16:18 +0000

I wasn’t exactly romanticizing dolphin intelligence, just commenting on the stupidity of prepping to baptize an unknown form of life.
…agree with you on the advanced tech gadget aspect as the 1st point of interest if there was true contact - but then again I am not interested in baptizing other humans either, and never introduce myself to people with a “praise be to god” kinda attitude. I leave that to the same bunch of weiners who are now concerned with the aliens conversion from heathen-ism to godliness. I say let em have at it and leave the rest of us alone. Maybe the ET’s ray-gun ‘em and we’ll all be better off?

By: alistair

alistair — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:29:03 +0000

if aliens had landed on earth 500 yeas ago, just before they were marched off to meet with torquamada they would have pulled out the vapourisers and then went for a latte.
we are carnivorous preadators. animals are food. we can intellectualise around it and romanticize dolphin intellegence but dogs are smart in certain ways too. there have been studies done on the psychic link between dogs and humans and cats and humans that are persuasive.
god is an artifact of uncertainty. i would be disappointed if i met an alien and the first thing he did was start rattling on about his personal relationship with god. show me the space ship or the really cool toys or the terrabit handheld computer or the superthin space suit. i`m a material boy first and foremost. right after that i want some answers about living and then we can share our uncertainty about our existance.
does that make me shallow?
i think we are in contact because the aliens are part of us. they might even be us in some higher dimension, an us on a higher vibrational plane. i think the arrogance is a reversed one, an inability to recognise the humanness of the reported behaviour of these “aliens”.(and most of them are fabricated anyway.)
the idea that we are all created from the same stuff as the stars suggests that we are already in the stars(which the earth already is.) which would allow us to know the planetary movements of bootes epsilon already. the dogons have ideograms that depict the movement of the star sirius and they perform ritual dances that describe planetary movements in the sirius system.
i think we are just hesitant to admit that we are all these things. we seperate ourselves from nature and say we are threatening nature as an outside agent, when we are actually part of nature it`s self. of nature. of stars.it`s the fear of this created unknown that makes us seperate. when we stop the fear then we recognise all that is going on as part of us.
fear turns people against each other, and the fear needs to be created. the movie batman begins is a dissertation on fear.

By: James Russell

James Russell — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:48:21 +0000

I rather liked the response I got when I posted this baptising aliens story on my Livejournal: “But surely if God really is universal, the aliens might believe in Him already?” I suppose the Church feels you can’t be too sure about these things.

Just think: if aliens had landed on Earth about 500 years ago, they would’ve been marched off to face the Inquisition before they could say “take me to your leader”.

By: Emerson

Emerson — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:24:11 +0000

The arrogance of humans never ceases to amaze me. We’re nowhere near the point where we’d be able to initiate contact. So, what’s our first reaction when encountering beings so far advanced from us - tell them how much more ‘we’ know about the universe than they do. It’s also rather presumptuous to think that they’d even want us in their own religion, let alone to be in ours. I can’t recall the title, but there was one scene in particular which struck a note in me. It involved a conversation between a human and a near-immortal alien. The human was speculating on death and the afterlife, and the alien suddenly burst out in laughter. There certainly is an afterlife, the alien said, but why do you think a creature which fades out simply by existing for too long in this life would fare any better in the other life. I wonder how humanity would take to such an idea. That sentient beings go to heaven, but that we don’t qualify as being truly sentient.

SubstanceM mentions dolphins and the non-human apes, and I think this brings up some more important points. We’re practically kissing cousins with dolphins, and they’ve shown evidence of abstract thought. Yet, despite both these things look how horrible we are at understanding them. Yet humans always seem to think that we’ll be easily able to communicate with life that evolved from an entirely different genetic pool. As Tim points out, it may even be that us apes are unable to even make sense out of the language of alien, more sentient, beings.

By: Surrealsouleater

Surrealsouleater — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:42:24 +0000

unImportant questions - does the soul exist? If it does than it is important the soul does not end up on any metaphysical planets located inside a particular alien organism universe. If aliens have souls do they reincarnate into our earth realm? What happens if the soul is really a container filled of multiple metaphysical and pyschic creatures? What does the soul look like? Could it be an actual land with an invisible umblicial cord connected to the physical body? If there are dimensions called heaven and hell are they dimensions connected to all the universes that might exist? And lastly if souls do exist what is Carl Jung and JRR Tolkien doing right now? If Jesus was a space-alien who was Buddha who basically denied the entire content of the psyche and said there was no soul.

By: SubstanceM

SubstanceM — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:22:18 +0000

Are they going to start sending teams of scuba-priests
out into the oceans to baptize the dolphins into the Catholic Church?
Primates have a signing communication going on, maybe they can teach em
how to sign “Jesus save me” in case aliens are abducting them too.