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		<title>By: shoot to kill</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/24/australian-for-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-7236</link>
		<dc:creator>shoot to kill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 00:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, NIR devices may be installed in a public transport and facilities, i.e. at the door of trains,  buses, department stores and cinimas etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, NIR devices may be installed in a public transport and facilities, i.e. at the door of trains,  buses, department stores and cinimas etc.</p>
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		<title>By: shoot to kill</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/24/australian-for-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-7235</link>
		<dc:creator>shoot to kill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 00:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another backup method is to use a laser gun to paralize the suspect instead of killing </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another backup method is to use a laser gun to paralize the suspect instead of killing</p>
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		<title>By: shoot to kill</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/24/australian-for-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-7233</link>
		<dc:creator>shoot to kill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, the shoot to kill policy has to be backuped by scientific means to ensure the killee is a suspect.  Many of the scientific technologies might achieve this.  One of those that I know of is the Near Inferred (NIR) technology which had wider applications in the agricultural and pharmaceutical industries.  It is used mostly for quality control and quality assurance purposes.  The typical examples of these applications are scanning wheat grains, melon fruit, tablets etc.  I'm sure it is not that difficult to scan bomb chemicals that suspect is carrying.  The beauty of this technology is that the substances that are subjected to scanning do not have to be in a dark environment like those by the x-ray technique.  However, I'm not sure if it can be used as similar as to the laser scanning.  Maybe, the combination of Raman tech with NIR or combiantion of laser tech with NIR could achieve this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the shoot to kill policy has to be backuped by scientific means to ensure the killee is a suspect.  Many of the scientific technologies might achieve this.  One of those that I know of is the Near Inferred (NIR) technology which had wider applications in the agricultural and pharmaceutical industries.  It is used mostly for quality control and quality assurance purposes.  The typical examples of these applications are scanning wheat grains, melon fruit, tablets etc.  I&#8217;m sure it is not that difficult to scan bomb chemicals that suspect is carrying.  The beauty of this technology is that the substances that are subjected to scanning do not have to be in a dark environment like those by the x-ray technique.  However, I&#8217;m not sure if it can be used as similar as to the laser scanning.  Maybe, the combination of Raman tech with NIR or combiantion of laser tech with NIR could achieve this.</p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and now we have the gospel according to oprah............with dr.phil as john the baptist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and now we have the gospel according to oprah&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;with dr.phil as john the baptist.</p>
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		<title>By: shoot to kill</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/24/australian-for-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-7192</link>
		<dc:creator>shoot to kill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if the government doesn't know how to tackle the root cause, then its citizens suffer.

Ordinary people treat problems just like a pendulum of a granfather clock.

When left-wing did bad things, the public tend to swing to the right policies, 

AND 

vice versa

Once I remembered that Tim wrote an assay of JESUS IS AT YOUR BACKYARD

Now,

a scary thing is that HITLER and STARLIN are AT YOUR BACKYARD  :--- (

Have a look at this:

http://hitlersescape.com/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if the government doesn&#8217;t know how to tackle the root cause, then its citizens suffer.</p>
<p>Ordinary people treat problems just like a pendulum of a granfather clock.</p>
<p>When left-wing did bad things, the public tend to swing to the right policies, </p>
<p>AND </p>
<p>vice versa</p>
<p>Once I remembered that Tim wrote an assay of JESUS IS AT YOUR BACKYARD</p>
<p>Now,</p>
<p>a scary thing is that HITLER and STARLIN are AT YOUR BACKYARD  :&#8212; (</p>
<p>Have a look at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://hitlersescape.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://hitlersescape.com/'>http://hitlersescape.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Garrett Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a tangent or not?
From the Seattle Times:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Cops in Washington state get handjobs before they arrest prostitutes


Did local vice cops cross the line?

Lynnwood police concede they engaged in â€œrarely usedâ€ tactics during an undercover investigation into a suspected prostitution ring.

Those tactics, which included officers allowing prostitutes to masturbate them in exchange for cash, have raised questions among law-enforcement officials, legal experts and the Snohomish County Prosecutorâ€™s Office.

Lynnwood police Cmdr. Paul Watkins said he spent a great deal of time justifying the officersâ€™ actions to prosecutors to prove that the officers themselves werenâ€™t breaking the law. Snohomish County prosecutors on Monday filed a felony charge of promotion of prostitution against Myong Pang, 42, of University Place, Pierce County. On Sept. 30, they filed a misdemeanor prostitution charge against Myong Chow, 40, of Tacoma.

â€œThe officers didnâ€™t cross that line of engaging in intercourse or oral sex,â€ Watkins said. â€œI advised them no oral sex, no intercourse, thatâ€™s not going to happen. Thatâ€™s the understood policy. Thereâ€™s no written policy regarding this.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002545187_prostitutes07m.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a tangent or not?<br />
From the Seattle Times:</p>
<blockquote><p>Cops in Washington state get handjobs before they arrest prostitutes</p>
<p>Did local vice cops cross the line?</p>
<p>Lynnwood police concede they engaged in â€œrarely usedâ€ tactics during an undercover investigation into a suspected prostitution ring.</p>
<p>Those tactics, which included officers allowing prostitutes to masturbate them in exchange for cash, have raised questions among law-enforcement officials, legal experts and the Snohomish County Prosecutorâ€™s Office.</p>
<p>Lynnwood police Cmdr. Paul Watkins said he spent a great deal of time justifying the officersâ€™ actions to prosecutors to prove that the officers themselves werenâ€™t breaking the law. Snohomish County prosecutors on Monday filed a felony charge of promotion of prostitution against Myong Pang, 42, of University Place, Pierce County. On Sept. 30, they filed a misdemeanor prostitution charge against Myong Chow, 40, of Tacoma.</p>
<p>â€œThe officers didnâ€™t cross that line of engaging in intercourse or oral sex,â€ Watkins said. â€œI advised them no oral sex, no intercourse, thatâ€™s not going to happen. Thatâ€™s the understood policy. Thereâ€™s no written policy regarding this.â€</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002545187_prostitutes07m.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002545187_prostitutes07m.html'>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/...alnews/2002545187_prostitutes07m.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>carlos, do you have a python called monty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>carlos, do you have a python called monty?</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, I officially support the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia and her policies and administration thereof. I am a proponent for the war against terror and I believe in the mission in Iraq. I retract any statements I may have made in the past that contradict this one. Furthermore, I have the utmost confidence in the leadership of this nation, including (but not limited to) the Prime Minister John Winston Howard. If I have ever written anything on this site or on others that lead the reader to believe otherwise, please consider this a full and complete retraction.

I apologise for any misunderstandings that I may have caused. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I officially support the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia and her policies and administration thereof. I am a proponent for the war against terror and I believe in the mission in Iraq. I retract any statements I may have made in the past that contradict this one. Furthermore, I have the utmost confidence in the leadership of this nation, including (but not limited to) the Prime Minister John Winston Howard. If I have ever written anything on this site or on others that lead the reader to believe otherwise, please consider this a full and complete retraction.</p>
<p>I apologise for any misunderstandings that I may have caused.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also unpopular here is the new industrial relations legislation, which strips all employee rights, and i mean all. most people are already to the wall as it is, but if you're dissatisfied with the economic/political situation...

they also are introducing the idea of "preventative detention" (with tracking bracelets and everything) for crimes as small as criticising &lt;em&gt;any &lt;/em&gt;government policy, the rationale(?) being that terrorists would criticise the government, so if you criticise you're helping the terrorist cause! they can even decide who you can and can't associate with.

also, undercover federal police can, without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers, shoot a "fleeing" citizen in the back with total indemnity. they only have to yell "stop" and then start firing. furthermore, the citizen in question does not even have to be suspected of any wrongdoing at all!

so imagine you're jogging while listening to your ipod one morning...

these "anti-terror" laws are fucking bogus. we &lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; have laws against murder and whatnot so wtf? the state is the source of all terror, and they publicly executed that brazillian guy to remind us: we rule and you're fucked. 

fwiw i can be jailed for seven years for what i am writing now, despite the fact that i am a total pacifist (slaughterhouse cow). 

australia has always been a colony built from convict slave labour, and it seems that it will remain that way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also unpopular here is the new industrial relations legislation, which strips all employee rights, and i mean all. most people are already to the wall as it is, but if you&#8217;re dissatisfied with the economic/political situation&#8230;</p>
<p>they also are introducing the idea of &#8220;preventative detention&#8221; (with tracking bracelets and everything) for crimes as small as criticising <em>any </em>government policy, the rationale(?) being that terrorists would criticise the government, so if you criticise you&#8217;re helping the terrorist cause! they can even decide who you can and can&#8217;t associate with.</p>
<p>also, undercover federal police can, without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers, shoot a &#8220;fleeing&#8221; citizen in the back with total indemnity. they only have to yell &#8220;stop&#8221; and then start firing. furthermore, the citizen in question does not even have to be suspected of any wrongdoing at all!</p>
<p>so imagine you&#8217;re jogging while listening to your ipod one morning&#8230;</p>
<p>these &#8220;anti-terror&#8221; laws are fucking bogus. we <em>already</em> have laws against murder and whatnot so wtf? the state is the source of all terror, and they publicly executed that brazillian guy to remind us: we rule and you&#8217;re fucked. </p>
<p>fwiw i can be jailed for seven years for what i am writing now, despite the fact that i am a total pacifist (slaughterhouse cow). </p>
<p>australia has always been a colony built from convict slave labour, and it seems that it will remain that way.</p>
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		<title>By: hebrides</title>
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		<dc:creator>hebrides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then these things are on the books and difficult to get off the books.  Sure, there are a lot of crazy shit things from the olden days still on the books that aren't enforced, but the thing of it is, that if they're in the books, all it takes is a change of wind or whim for someone to decide to enforce it (like say an anti-oral sex law that I remember reading about at one time being on the books in one Southern state; apologies that my memory does not serve me better and that eye'm feeling too lazy to google myself up a link).

I agree, it does sound like a divide and conquer the family sort of law.  And it implies that the only authority or community unit of any relevance is the State and that's some pretty totalitarian, if not outright fascist implication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then these things are on the books and difficult to get off the books.  Sure, there are a lot of crazy shit things from the olden days still on the books that aren&#8217;t enforced, but the thing of it is, that if they&#8217;re in the books, all it takes is a change of wind or whim for someone to decide to enforce it (like say an anti-oral sex law that I remember reading about at one time being on the books in one Southern state; apologies that my memory does not serve me better and that eye&#8217;m feeling too lazy to google myself up a link).</p>
<p>I agree, it does sound like a divide and conquer the family sort of law.  And it implies that the only authority or community unit of any relevance is the State and that&#8217;s some pretty totalitarian, if not outright fascist implication.</p>
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		<title>By: Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scary thing is how often things like this get by because politicians just vote by clique and party, without bothering to even read what they're voting into law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scary thing is how often things like this get by because politicians just vote by clique and party, without bothering to even read what they&#8217;re voting into law.</p>
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