Comments on: Evolver: An Interview With Daniel Pinchbeck, Part 2 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:14:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Dodging Invisible Rays » Writing the ideal world http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7418 Dodging Invisible Rays » Writing the ideal world Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:34:05 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7418 [...] ere could be, however, an even more urgent reason for creating compelling narratives (from Part 2 of Tim Boucher’s interview with Dani [...] [...] ere could be, however, an even more urgent reason for creating compelling narratives (from Part 2 of Tim Boucher’s interview with Dani [...]

]]> By: Greg http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7404 Greg Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:03:50 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7404 The broomstick quote is from "<a href="http://print.google.com/print?hl=en&id=wfVlsPe78dgC&dq=broomstick&prev=http://print.google.com/print%3Fq%3Dharner%2Batropine%26btnG%3DSearch%2BPrint%26hl%3Den&lpg=PA129&pg=PA131&sig=83gGEQon0u96-uvzoKT4W1iZwsw" rel="nofollow">Hallucinogens and Shamanism</a>" (see pg 131). However, the most well-known of Harner's books is "The Way of the Shaman". Peace and Respect, Greg The broomstick quote is from “Hallucinogens and Shamanism” (see pg 131). However, the most well-known of Harner’s books is “The Way of the Shaman”.

Peace and Respect,
Greg

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7399 Tim Boucher Tue, 01 Nov 2005 04:24:17 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7399 Hm, interestingly it turns out Harner actually has a book called "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195016491/timbouchercom-20" rel="nofollow">Hallucinogens and Shamanism</a>" which Amazon has very little information on regarding what viewpoint he actually takes with it all. On that note, I should also try to get an interview with Jeremy Narby, since he writes in a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0874779642/timbouchercom-20/103-8142099-2943847" rel="nofollow">similar vein</a>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Narby http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=16830 Hm, interestingly it turns out Harner actually has a book called “Hallucinogens and Shamanism” which Amazon has very little information on regarding what viewpoint he actually takes with it all.

On that note, I should also try to get an interview with Jeremy Narby, since he writes in a similar vein.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Narby
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=16830

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7397 Tim Boucher Tue, 01 Nov 2005 04:17:50 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7397 Wow! You know I've heard that before as well, but I didn't know Harner was one to support that idea. Maybe I should just write to Harner specifically and ask him about all this. Might be nice to have a totally different perspective on the whole modern shamanism issue. In fact, I think I will. Does anybody know a good Michael Harner book to get started with? Wow! You know I’ve heard that before as well, but I didn’t know Harner was one to support that idea. Maybe I should just write to Harner specifically and ask him about all this. Might be nice to have a totally different perspective on the whole modern shamanism issue. In fact, I think I will. Does anybody know a good Michael Harner book to get started with?

]]> By: Greg http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7395 Greg Tue, 01 Nov 2005 02:25:13 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7395 Nice interview Tim, thanks for the engaging read. On the topic of Jung and synchronicities, I find it interesting that in the process of picking a name for our magazine <a href="http://subrosa.dailygrail.com" rel="nofollow">Sub Rosa</a>, we also had on our list 'Evolver', 'The New Edge', and a host of 'Meta-' names...all of which seem to be in the mind of Daniel and his team. I found it a little amusing to hear from Daniel that 'cultural approbrium' may have restricted Michael Harner's support for hallucinogens...here's a guy who has written essays about witches' brooms being used as hallucinogen applicators to the membranes of the vagina! ;) Peace and Respect, Greg Nice interview Tim, thanks for the engaging read. On the topic of Jung and synchronicities, I find it interesting that in the process of picking a name for our magazine Sub Rosa, we also had on our list ‘Evolver’, ‘The New Edge’, and a host of ‘Meta-’ names…all of which seem to be in the mind of Daniel and his team.

I found it a little amusing to hear from Daniel that ‘cultural approbrium’ may have restricted Michael Harner’s support for hallucinogens…here’s a guy who has written essays about witches’ brooms being used as hallucinogen applicators to the membranes of the vagina! ;)

Peace and Respect,
Greg

]]> By: Dodging Invisible Rays » Tim Boucher interviews Daniel Pinchbeck http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7383 Dodging Invisible Rays » Tim Boucher interviews Daniel Pinchbeck Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:05:13 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7383 [...] y31 Oct 2005 01:08 pm Tim Boucher interviews Daniel Pinchbeck Tim Boucher has posted two interviews with Daniel Pinchbeck that are jus [...] [...] y31 Oct 2005 01:08 pm
Tim Boucher interviews Daniel Pinchbeck

Tim Boucher has posted two interviews with Daniel Pinchbeck that are jus [...]

]]> By: He ZuDao http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7381 He ZuDao Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:58:17 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7381 pinchbeck is so full of himself that he almost manages to say something interesting on several occasions, but just can't get over the fact that he's read a few books, and had some mild success with his musings. I've seen him be catty, and extreamly virulent on a number of occasions with folks who don't accept his profundity on minor details. oh well. 'people get the shamans they deserve.' even pinchbeck. pinchbeck is so full of himself that he almost manages to say something interesting on several occasions, but just can’t get over the fact that he’s read a few books, and had some mild success with his musings.

I’ve seen him be catty, and extreamly virulent on a number of occasions with folks who don’t accept his profundity on minor details.

oh well. ‘people get the shamans they deserve.’ even pinchbeck.

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7379 Tim Boucher Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:40:10 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7379 Yeah, I mean its a wonderful interview. Wasn't trying to make a real issue out of it. Yeah, I mean its a wonderful interview. Wasn’t trying to make a real issue out of it.

]]> By: Emerson http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7376 Emerson Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:45:10 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7376 That line caught my attention as well. Bit of a fingernail on the chalkboard moment in the otherwise awesomly entertaining interview. That line caught my attention as well. Bit of a fingernail on the chalkboard moment in the otherwise awesomly entertaining interview.

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7372 Tim Boucher Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:49:52 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/30/evolver-an-interview-with-daniel-pinchbeck-part-2/#comment-7372 I feel inclined to make at least one comment/clarification here myself. Daniel responded to one of my questions with the following: <blockquote>I am not speculating about the end of the world, by the way. That is a literalist simplification based on your own projections, that are probably fear-based.</blockquote> I'm a little perplexed as to where this is coming from - mainly given the background context of mine and Daniel's interactions. We've shared multiple email conversations on the subject of non-literal, non-fear-based Apocalypse scenarios. I also submitted an article on that very subject to him for inclusion in Metacine/Evolver several months ago: <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/09/youre-all-gonna-die-prophecy-protest/" rel="nofollow">“You’re All Gonna Die!” Prophecy & Protest</a>. Possibly he just forgot about all this. I feel inclined to make at least one comment/clarification here myself. Daniel responded to one of my questions with the following:

I am not speculating about the end of the world, by the way. That is a literalist simplification based on your own projections, that are probably fear-based.

I’m a little perplexed as to where this is coming from - mainly given the background context of mine and Daniel’s interactions. We’ve shared multiple email conversations on the subject of non-literal, non-fear-based Apocalypse scenarios. I also submitted an article on that very subject to him for inclusion in Metacine/Evolver several months ago: “You’re All Gonna Die!” Prophecy & Protest. Possibly he just forgot about all this.

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