Comments on: The Coming of the Universal Adversary http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:39:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Has SETI Found Intelligent Life? - Pop Occulture Blog http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-18617 Has SETI Found Intelligent Life? - Pop Occulture Blog Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:15:56 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-18617 [...] While I’m not sure if this is “true” or not, it certainly has a nice satisfying fictional feel to it. The thing that remains to be seen of course would be if these beings have our best intentions at heart. Also, a more broad and traditionally paranoid question would be: is this announcement on Coast to Coast nothing more than harvesting the early seeds of a plan unfolding to make us think aliens are here? A certain line of speculation would have us believe that this is the method by which a one world government would finally be formed: by faking (or perhaps revealing a real one?) a threat which will cause us all to band together (a la the movied Independence Day). For more down that road, see my article: The Coming of the Universal Adversary. [...] [...] While I’m not sure if this is “true” or not, it certainly has a nice satisfying fictional feel to it. The thing that remains to be seen of course would be if these beings have our best intentions at heart. Also, a more broad and traditionally paranoid question would be: is this announcement on Coast to Coast nothing more than harvesting the early seeds of a plan unfolding to make us think aliens are here? A certain line of speculation would have us believe that this is the method by which a one world government would finally be formed: by faking (or perhaps revealing a real one?) a threat which will cause us all to band together (a la the movied Independence Day). For more down that road, see my article: The Coming of the Universal Adversary. [...]

]]> By: Error 404 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-8138 Error 404 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:52:50 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-8138 Daniel, I can see shooting at windmills being a real winner for KBR, particularly if they also get the contract for building the windmills. And since the contracts are all cost+, doing it on the Moon is excellent, Mars even better. Would make the Iraq scam look like a Times Sqare 3-card Monte tournament. Daniel,
I can see shooting at windmills being a real winner for KBR, particularly if they also get the contract for building the windmills. And since the contracts are all cost+, doing it on the Moon is excellent, Mars even better. Would make the Iraq scam look like a Times Sqare 3-card Monte tournament.

]]> By: alistair http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-8001 alistair Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:01:53 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-8001 i`m not sure. i keep meaning to rent that movie, but the stallone bit doesn`t quite fit. my girlfriend says i watch too much soccer anyway. i don`t think there is such a thing as too much soccer personally, unless you include the bits with stallone. my previous comments were in no way meant to detract from silvester stallones other stellar performances in movies, and we all have our favorites. i`m surprised that he hasn`t run for office like the other movie star with a speech impediment, arnold schwartzenegger. i`m not sure. i keep meaning to rent that movie, but the stallone bit doesn`t quite fit. my girlfriend says i watch too much soccer anyway. i don`t think there is such a thing as too much soccer personally, unless you include the bits with stallone.
my previous comments were in no way meant to detract from silvester stallones other stellar performances in movies, and we all have our favorites. i`m surprised that he hasn`t run for office like the other movie star with a speech impediment, arnold schwartzenegger.

]]> By: james http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7991 james Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:28:24 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7991 Isn't that historical soccer game the basis for that movie <i>Victory</i> with Michael Caine, Sylvester Stallone, and Pele? Isn’t that historical soccer game the basis for that movie Victory with Michael Caine, Sylvester Stallone, and Pele?

]]> By: Daniel http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7976 Daniel Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:46:15 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7976 We're going to be shooting at windmills We’re going to be shooting at windmills

]]> By: alistair http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7968 alistair Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:41:57 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7968 the universal adversary is ourselves, but we can negotiate a peace and play nicely if we want to. i`ve seen it happen on the soccer field and in the supermarket and on this blog. when we choose. tragically, the only place where this cannot happen is in the courtroom or the war room or the senate. if the members of these institutions began behaving that way they would become redundant very quickly. there is a paul mccartney video about a soccer game between the english and german soldiers in the first world war during a cease-fire on christmas day. apparently it did happen. the universal adversary is ourselves, but we can negotiate a peace and play nicely if we want to. i`ve seen it happen on the soccer field and in the supermarket and on this blog. when we choose. tragically, the only place where this cannot happen is in the courtroom or the war room or the senate. if the members of these institutions began behaving that way they would become redundant very quickly.
there is a paul mccartney video about a soccer game between the english and german soldiers in the first world war during a cease-fire on christmas day. apparently it did happen.

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7963 Tim Boucher Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:16:40 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7963 Oh cool, I'll definitely check that novel out! Oh cool, I’ll definitely check that novel out!

]]> By: james http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7959 james Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:07:29 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7959 The reason why I have always dug <i>Close Encounters of the Third Kind</i> is because it is one of the few popular sci-fi movies that treats the possible visitation of aliens as a positive, life-affirming event. I also think that it's easier for people to think that robots have the capacity for evil <i>a la</i> HAL 9000 in <i>2001: A Space Odyssey</i>. The Universal Adversary-- if there ever will be one --is ourselves. Don't you know that by now? The reason why I have always dug Close Encounters of the Third Kind is because it is one of the few popular sci-fi movies that treats the possible visitation of aliens as a positive, life-affirming event.

I also think that it’s easier for people to think that robots have the capacity for evil a la HAL 9000 in 2001: A Space Odyssey.

The Universal Adversary– if there ever will be one –is ourselves. Don’t you know that by now?

]]> By: cementimental http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7941 cementimental Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:33:17 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7941 I'm just re-reading PKD's "Our Friends from Frolix 8" in which a psueodo two-party oppressive government both propagandise and are genuinely threatened by the activities of a revolutionary figure who set off into space and may or may not imminently return with extraterrestrial help to free mankind... The novel ties in nicely with the ideas in your post, you should read it if you haven't. I’m just re-reading PKD’s “Our Friends from Frolix 8″ in which a psueodo two-party oppressive government both propagandise and are genuinely threatened by the activities of a revolutionary figure who set off into space and may or may not imminently return with extraterrestrial help to free mankind… The novel ties in nicely with the ideas in your post, you should read it if you haven’t.

]]> By: Emerson http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7935 Emerson Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:04:55 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7935 Crud, sorry for the giganta-link. Crud, sorry for the giganta-link.

]]> By: Emerson http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7934 Emerson Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:02:51 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7934 <blockquote>i watched a commercial today with a small child playing with a robot puppy.</blockquote> Have you ever seen the robocup competitions with Aibo's playing soccer against each other? The majority of the video I've seen from those matches range from impressive to downright mind boggling. I was writing a little article a while back which later became this <a href="http://www.phildickiangnosticism.com/blog/2005/11/23/the-psychology-of-robotics/" rel="nofollow"> While doing that I was watching a lot of video with the Leonardo robot, and it was amazing watching it in action. It raises a lot of questions about what feelings, emotions, and learning really are. But even more than that, it's just awesome watching it. The way it keeps watching the human to gauge how well its pushing buttons is so amazingly human, or I suppose social mammal-like.</a>

i watched a commercial today with a small child playing with a robot puppy.

Have you ever seen the robocup competitions with Aibo’s playing soccer against each other? The majority of the video I’ve seen from those matches range from impressive to downright mind boggling.

I was writing a little article a while back which later became this
While doing that I was watching a lot of video with the Leonardo robot, and it was amazing watching it in action. It raises a lot of questions about what feelings, emotions, and learning really are. But even more than that, it’s just awesome watching it. The way it keeps watching the human to gauge how well its pushing buttons is so amazingly human, or I suppose social mammal-like.

]]> By: alistair http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7929 alistair Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:36:11 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7929 yep, issac asimov. the i, robot book and others contained a directive that robots were not to harm humans. it made one robot go mad. yep, issac asimov. the i, robot book and others contained a directive that robots were not to harm humans. it made one robot go mad.

]]> By: Gnome http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7926 Gnome Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:47:02 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7926 I saw the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy very recently. I never read the books. I feel somehow the thing is connected somehow. Anyways it blows the imagination away to think of what other planets look like, their forests, cities, dreamlands etc. I saw the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy very recently. I never read the books. I feel somehow the thing is connected somehow. Anyways it blows the imagination away to think of what other planets look like, their forests, cities, dreamlands etc.

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7924 Tim Boucher Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:07:55 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7924 i think the robot rules were from isaac asimov, but i could be wrong. i think the robot rules were from isaac asimov, but i could be wrong.

]]> By: alistair http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7923 alistair Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:48:38 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7923 hellyer has been many things in his career. it seems to me that he`s a political chamelion looking for a new seam to run and discovered the ufo and freedom of information actions in mexico, brazil and elsewhere as a way to get exposure(on the net, at least.). the mainstream media has been quiet here in canada about hellyer`s comment. we are more interested in the stunningly boring antics of paul martin and lord black. at least american politics has a component of charisma about it. exopolitics has always seemed laughable to me. the developement of political protocols for interactions with aliens. about as effective as the geneva convention in bagdad or the marquis of queensbury rules in east l.a. regarding phildickian precience. the future is always just slightly different than we can possibly imagine. it take a delusional type like phil to see clearly. oh yeah, and deep, dark paranoia. my personal view is that we are busy building and programming our next adversary. i watched a commercial today with a small child playing with a robot puppy. i`m not sure why i got a creeping sense of dread watching it. the chipsets are getting smaller and faster. more quickly than moores law predicted. according to kurzwiel, the doubling rate is about 1.1 years at the present. do computers think? do submarines swim? my baptist friend says computers will never think. his arguement is becoming one of semantics more that function. pretty soon the calculation algorithm will be large and fast enough to emulate thinking and decision making to the point where the only issue will be ethics. art clark got around that with his robot rules, but that was a book. hellyer has been many things in his career. it seems to me that he`s a political chamelion looking for a new seam to run and discovered the ufo and freedom of information actions in mexico, brazil and elsewhere as a way to get exposure(on the net, at least.). the mainstream media has been quiet here in canada about hellyer`s comment. we are more interested in the stunningly boring antics of paul martin and lord black. at least american politics has a component of charisma about it. exopolitics has always seemed laughable to me. the developement of political protocols for interactions with aliens. about as effective as the geneva convention in bagdad or the marquis of queensbury rules in east l.a.
regarding phildickian precience. the future is always just slightly different than we can possibly imagine. it take a delusional type like phil to see clearly. oh yeah, and deep, dark paranoia.
my personal view is that we are busy building and programming our next adversary. i watched a commercial today with a small child playing with a robot puppy. i`m not sure why i got a creeping sense of dread watching it. the chipsets are getting smaller and faster. more quickly than moores law predicted. according to kurzwiel, the doubling rate is about 1.1 years at the present. do computers think? do submarines swim?
my baptist friend says computers will never think. his arguement is becoming one of semantics more that function. pretty soon the calculation algorithm will be large and fast enough to emulate thinking and decision making to the point where the only issue will be ethics.
art clark got around that with his robot rules, but that was a book.

]]> By: Elizabeth Anne Ensley http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7921 Elizabeth Anne Ensley Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:15:13 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7921 Clusty's <a href="http://clusty.com/search?query=universal+adversary" rel="nofollow">"universal adversary"</a> They lsit Democrats as one of the choices (with nine entries) and the whole thing seems a bit mind-boggling. Clusty’s “universal adversary” They lsit Democrats as one of the choices (with nine entries) and the whole thing seems a bit mind-boggling.

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7920 Tim Boucher Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:34:10 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7920 No, but I've always meant to No, but I’ve always meant to

]]> By: prunesquallori http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/comment-page-1/#comment-7919 prunesquallori Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:15:33 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/11/27/the-coming-of-the-universal-adversary/#comment-7919 Have you read Watchmen? Have you read Watchmen?

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