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		<title>By: Ktulu</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/06/god-is-a-heretic/comment-page-1/#comment-8596</link>
		<dc:creator>Ktulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, Victor, but my question is, why can't God be a hermaphrodite?  Who says that believing in the Goddess, or believing in the God, is the correct way to go about things?

I agree that the symbol of "god" directly correlates to who is in power, and what type of power structure it is, but does "god" have to be man or woman?  For that matter, does one gender have to rule over the other?  Why can't mankind embrace it's other half, and return to the origin, before, in the Greek mythos, the gods cut them into two, a man and a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, Victor, but my question is, why can&#8217;t God be a hermaphrodite?  Who says that believing in the Goddess, or believing in the God, is the correct way to go about things?</p>
<p>I agree that the symbol of &#8220;god&#8221; directly correlates to who is in power, and what type of power structure it is, but does &#8220;god&#8221; have to be man or woman?  For that matter, does one gender have to rule over the other?  Why can&#8217;t mankind embrace it&#8217;s other half, and return to the origin, before, in the Greek mythos, the gods cut them into two, a man and a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Wrath</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/06/god-is-a-heretic/comment-page-1/#comment-8591</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Wrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	The primary motivation behind Christian fear of the Goddess is fear of the revival of female dominance.  They would have you believe that women never had power, when in fact women once ruled the world.  When things were balanced genetically there were far more of them, than there are of us.  The fact that God was a woman was obvious, for the numbers of women to men where higher, and all things of beauty were women.

	Since the advent of marriage, the scales became misbalanced, of course they would tell you that they are in-fact now balanced, but our numbers were not meant to be even.  Men were stronger, and it was no longer obvious that God was a woman, or that woman should rule.  Men overthrew the dominion of women, and overtime tried to cast out the idea that Women ever ruled, more or less ruled first. 

	These last ten thousand years have been the history of man, but we are much older than that, and we do have a history that goes back further.  All the single god oriented faiths of this world fear the discovery of those ancient buried secrets, for they might empower women once more, and restore the old balance stealing away the power of men and their religion.

--Victor Wrath, The Heretic.--
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary motivation behind Christian fear of the Goddess is fear of the revival of female dominance.  They would have you believe that women never had power, when in fact women once ruled the world.  When things were balanced genetically there were far more of them, than there are of us.  The fact that God was a woman was obvious, for the numbers of women to men where higher, and all things of beauty were women.</p>
<p>	Since the advent of marriage, the scales became misbalanced, of course they would tell you that they are in-fact now balanced, but our numbers were not meant to be even.  Men were stronger, and it was no longer obvious that God was a woman, or that woman should rule.  Men overthrew the dominion of women, and overtime tried to cast out the idea that Women ever ruled, more or less ruled first. </p>
<p>	These last ten thousand years have been the history of man, but we are much older than that, and we do have a history that goes back further.  All the single god oriented faiths of this world fear the discovery of those ancient buried secrets, for they might empower women once more, and restore the old balance stealing away the power of men and their religion.</p>
<p>&#8211;Victor Wrath, The Heretic.&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Ktulu</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/06/god-is-a-heretic/comment-page-1/#comment-8444</link>
		<dc:creator>Ktulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL, james, what I think you are referring to is qualifying one's argument.  It does weaken some, especially if used too much, but it can also be used to relate the writer to the audience.  Of course, if one relates too much, then the information loses the original power of the author's intent.

As for psychologically, its great towards people on the fence or beyond the fence, but does very little for people who view themselves on the same side of the argument.  People on the same side just want the guts of the information, the power, they have very few differences (other side) or insecurities (on the fence) that need to be addressed, and thus they find such qualifying statements to be trivial and useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL, james, what I think you are referring to is qualifying one&#8217;s argument.  It does weaken some, especially if used too much, but it can also be used to relate the writer to the audience.  Of course, if one relates too much, then the information loses the original power of the author&#8217;s intent.</p>
<p>As for psychologically, its great towards people on the fence or beyond the fence, but does very little for people who view themselves on the same side of the argument.  People on the same side just want the guts of the information, the power, they have very few differences (other side) or insecurities (on the fence) that need to be addressed, and thus they find such qualifying statements to be trivial and useless.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe "pandering" is not the right word... but there's something in his tone that makes me feel like he is preaching to the choir. When a writer uses words and phrases such as "As upsetting as it may to [&lt;i&gt;insert presumably upset party here&lt;/i&gt;]..." or "I doubt [God] loses much sleep over this..." he is setting a particular tone with his/her literary voice, even if it is only a blog post or an essay. And that voice is snide in my ears, and does nothing to inform those on the other side of the fence. It may succeed in getting people who are on the fence to fall onto one side or the other, but we don't need self-consciously clever writers to do that-- gravity works just fine.

See? I just did what Mabry did, in my last sentence of the previous paragraph! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe &#8220;pandering&#8221; is not the right word&#8230; but there&#8217;s something in his tone that makes me feel like he is preaching to the choir. When a writer uses words and phrases such as &#8220;As upsetting as it may to [<i>insert presumably upset party here</i>]&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;I doubt [God] loses much sleep over this&#8230;&#8221; he is setting a particular tone with his/her literary voice, even if it is only a blog post or an essay. And that voice is snide in my ears, and does nothing to inform those on the other side of the fence. It may succeed in getting people who are on the fence to fall onto one side or the other, but we don&#8217;t need self-consciously clever writers to do that&#8211; gravity works just fine.</p>
<p>See? I just did what Mabry did, in my last sentence of the previous paragraph!</p>
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		<title>By: hebrides</title>
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		<dc:creator>hebrides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wha?  Eye?  Eye?  Battle of the eyes!  Welcome aboard, eyesane.  eye'm glad to see another eye here, though eye'm wondering who you are now!  Do eye gno you?

This blog entry is a good complement to the other one about gun-running preacher pop and the drive-by anti-Holloween.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wha?  Eye?  Eye?  Battle of the eyes!  Welcome aboard, eyesane.  eye&#8217;m glad to see another eye here, though eye&#8217;m wondering who you are now!  Do eye gno you?</p>
<p>This blog entry is a good complement to the other one about gun-running preacher pop and the drive-by anti-Holloween.</p>
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		<title>By: Ktulu</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/06/god-is-a-heretic/comment-page-1/#comment-8420</link>
		<dc:creator>Ktulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 05:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eyensane, you truly are insane, and I like it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eyensane, you truly are insane, and I like it!</p>
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		<title>By: eyensane</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyensane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And eye laughed and eye laughed and eye laughed ,watered down,high falutin,no-sence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And eye laughed and eye laughed and eye laughed ,watered down,high falutin,no-sence</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, I don't see this essay as pandering at all. But much of Mabry's work seems to be written for a mainstream religious audience who is struggling to grasp what people who are different from them are doing. Is that what causes it to seem watered down to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, I don&#8217;t see this essay as pandering at all. But much of Mabry&#8217;s work seems to be written for a mainstream religious audience who is struggling to grasp what people who are different from them are doing. Is that what causes it to seem watered down to you?</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Alistair. Jesus was referring to the Pharisees, not Christians. And before Constantine implemented Christianity, it WAS heretical to believe in Christ-- those Roman lions were sure well-fed.

And it brings up something inside of me: if someone wants to think of God as a heretic in order to align themselves with him/her/it, then I have no problem with it. 

But if God doesn't require the permission of the Jerry Falwells of the world to do what he/she/it wants, then it follows (logically? illogically?) that &lt;i&gt;neither do other human beings&lt;/i&gt;.

Ever had a teacher who tried to convince his students that "Math is fun!"? Maybe for him it was, but for me it was a drag, and I resented the teacher's attempts to pander to my personal tastes just so that I could experience the "fun" of math. I would have rather had the boring math assignments in their pure form than some watered-down version that emphasizes a property that does not exclusively belong to a concept such as mathematics.

I mean, yes, there are some people for whom math is fun. But I think it's sad when math needs to be sold as such in order to gain favor with other humans. And whenever people try to re-define what God is, it comes off the same way: as pathetic pandering.

In short: I wish more atheists and former religiosos would just be honest and say they're too lazy to get up on Sundays, instead of all this high-falutin' nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Alistair. Jesus was referring to the Pharisees, not Christians. And before Constantine implemented Christianity, it WAS heretical to believe in Christ&#8211; those Roman lions were sure well-fed.</p>
<p>And it brings up something inside of me: if someone wants to think of God as a heretic in order to align themselves with him/her/it, then I have no problem with it. </p>
<p>But if God doesn&#8217;t require the permission of the Jerry Falwells of the world to do what he/she/it wants, then it follows (logically? illogically?) that <i>neither do other human beings</i>.</p>
<p>Ever had a teacher who tried to convince his students that &#8220;Math is fun!&#8221;? Maybe for him it was, but for me it was a drag, and I resented the teacher&#8217;s attempts to pander to my personal tastes just so that I could experience the &#8220;fun&#8221; of math. I would have rather had the boring math assignments in their pure form than some watered-down version that emphasizes a property that does not exclusively belong to a concept such as mathematics.</p>
<p>I mean, yes, there are some people for whom math is fun. But I think it&#8217;s sad when math needs to be sold as such in order to gain favor with other humans. And whenever people try to re-define what God is, it comes off the same way: as pathetic pandering.</p>
<p>In short: I wish more atheists and former religiosos would just be honest and say they&#8217;re too lazy to get up on Sundays, instead of all this high-falutin&#8217; nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is amazing to me to hear how jesus offended christian sensibilities with his irreverent and blashemous statements. there was no christianity until 300 years or so after his death. we tend to see things through a christian lense. jesus and the people living then didn`t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is amazing to me to hear how jesus offended christian sensibilities with his irreverent and blashemous statements. there was no christianity until 300 years or so after his death. we tend to see things through a christian lense. jesus and the people living then didn`t.</p>
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