Comments on: He Ain’t Heavy…

By: Travis Anderson

Travis Anderson — Fri, 09 Dec 2005 05:18:02 +0000

Hebrides said: “Kingdom of Heaven IS within you; as is the Kingdom of Hell.”

Reminds me of the thought that Peter Carroll had in which he explained that the reason Crowley’s experience with Choronzon was so powerful and damaging was because Choronzon was actually his Holy Guardian Angel (and is to any of us that work with the HGA).

The more power and importance you give to that “highest expression of Self” the harder it fights back when you finally trek across the Abyss and have to let go of what you know of as Self.

By: Kylark

Kylark — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:20:14 +0000

I think eyensane is a sentient computer. They have an idiosyncratic way with language.

By: eyensane

eyensane — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 06:40:47 +0000

And the demiurge laughed at the mass-o-christ. (whatever keep from screaming at what your pimp has instore for is a lie) is gnosticism coruptable?

By: sparkwidgetlm

sparkwidgetlm — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:39:59 +0000

Totally feeling the pinch, Tim. Gilles Quispel put my Gnostic worldview in a headlock and smacked me around for a good portion of the past few days. I thought that the whole thing had affirmed my Christianity at the expense of my Gnosticism, and then wondered if it had affirmed my Gnosticism at the expense of my Christianity. Turns out, I think it affirmed both. My studies into Valentinian Gnosticism are showing me just how damn Christian this Gnosis can be.

Anyhow, on the Demiurge, I added a section to this post

Scroll down to “Is the Demiurge Good or Evil?”

He’s on our side, and not on our side. In fact, he might just be the True God, manifest in our Universe, putting on dozens of masks to fuck with us like the Trickster he is.

Heavy, man. Totally heavy.

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:33:13 +0000

Note: I posted more thoughts about this over at the Palm Tree Garden forum, which will hopefully evolve a conversation all on its own:

http://www.palmtreegarden.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=95

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:59:33 +0000

Is it a money thing

Haha, yeah! Totally. I just haven’t been able to justify splashing down the funds for it when I’m in the middle of trying to sort out the next phase of my life.

By: hebrides

hebrides — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:33:05 +0000

Tim says: “The Palm Tree Garden and the Black Iron Prison are the same place”

hebrides says: Come on, man. You’ve gotta read the Invisibles already. Enough procrastinating! Why? Cuz nearly that same sentiment is in there. Is it a money thing, cuz eye’ll take up a collection for ya so you can go get the thing!

Then hebrides says: And so the Kingdom of Heaven IS within you; as is the Kingdom of Hell. You might see those little demonic grays (Qlippoth) and fear them and thereby be foo*’d; or you may have no fear and you’ll go past them and see the angels. S’pose it all depends on where you’re at and what and how much you’re holding on to.

By: Ktulu

Ktulu — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:30:13 +0000

Mystery schools are like a computer-programming school for the occult. Its not like history where you can just pick up at any point. Its a step-based system, an approximation of the spiraling staircase of infinity. Once one actually fully understands the staircase of infinity, you become infinity. Or so I believe.

The whole idea of splitting God apart and putting him back together is much like the idea of splitting the atom, fission, and putting two together into one, fusion. The energy released (one psychological, one physical) is very similar.