A Florida woman named Jill Pagan, who actually is a “witch” rather than a pagan (for anybody who cares about such differences) recently received an unusual threat. Late on night, she heard a thud outside her home, went to inspect it, and found a large chunk of concrete with a note attached to it.
She immediately recognized a handwritten note in an ancient language called Theban, which she said is used almost exclusively by witches.
Pagan called a Flagler County sheriff’s deputy to her family’s home, but no report has been filed on the incident, sheriff’s office spokeswoman Debra Johnson said Monday.
Pagan later translated the message as, ” ‘You’ve been warned. Stop what you’re doing,’ ” she said Monday. And it was a way to scare her, her husband and daughter.
Apparently the official word from the police and from Pagan’s own suspicions is that this note came from somebody else in the alternative religious community.
Pagan wants to know why someone sent such a violent message.
“If you wanted to ask me a question, knock on my door — don’t throw a brick through it,” she said. “All my neighbors know and most of them are very cool with it.”
I’ve seen a few different pagan sites mention this article, but nobody’s really ventured a guess as to what might actually be going on here. I’m very curious about the whole thing. It certainly seems like it’s not the work of Christian anti-occultists, as they are typically much more straightforward in their intimidation tactics. So that leads me to wonder just what Jill Pagan is doing. Is it just simple Wicca? If so, why would this arouse the ire of another pagan(s) so much that they would threaten her? Seems tremendously unlikely. So, by the process of elimination, that leaves us with the possibility that maybe Pagan is dabbling in something that others in her own religious community don’t think she should be. Maybe she thinks noone has seen what she’s doing, but they’ve uncovered her work by other methods.
I’ve heard that in Afro-Carribean religious/occult circles, that various groups actually do “go to war” with one another. They will call the cops or the ASPCA (if any animal sacrifice is going on) in order to run other competing groups out of business. Maybe something similar is going on here as well. It’s all very curious and quite entertaining to speculate on.
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Speaking of Hoodoo wars, here’s a tangentially related story: Word was, down in DC, the cops pretty much shut voudon and santeria down on a related charge–mostly “animal cruelty”, though. Can’t break a chicken’s neck and then cook it, but you sure as shit can put one in a box, cut off it’s beak, feed it pig shit, then roast it. I’m generally not down with causing any unnecessary pain, but let’s be honest. A backyard raised chicken slaughtered by a Mambo’s got it better than the Tyson birds… Recently, the DC establishment got to putting Afro-Caribbean practitioners through the wringer again after Cardozo High School stayed closed for an EPA cleanup for mercury six weeks out of eight, someone in the echo chamber issued a talking point blaming Santieria botanicas for selling mercury to trouble-makers. Or something like that. It’s a news tip, not an deposition.
1. Maybe if school didn’t suck, kids wouldn’t fuck it up.
2. Maybe if you went to high school in the worst school district in the US–that’s a hard-to-win award–you wouldn’t give a damn.
3. That’s good, why don’t you assholes heap blame on some barely-legal small business owning immigrants who live in the back of their store with their kid and actually have a little bit of faith.
I find it odd that witches would use mundane methods against one another. A brick? The cops? The ASPCA? Of course, in the famous Golden Dawn war of years back, Uncle Al used the cops himself, in addition to hired thugs and other less-than-magickal methods. Does this mean that magick is essentially ineffectual, or does it mean that the wise mage takes the simplest tactitc first?
My guess is it’s something more pedestrian than spiritual. Maybe she’s sleeping with someone’s significant other, or is spreading gossip or something like that. Or maybe the perpetrator is mentally unbalanced.
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Check out alt.religion.wicca circa 1998
when the wiccan “internets” were full (at least for some years there, before Blogs existed) of all sorts of maladjusted nerds
threatening each other with hexes and lawsuits over various spouse-flirtartion/pet poisioning/Renaissance Faire costume-idea stealing scandals
and all sorts of other petty mundane nonsense
I was actually talking about this with my shrink last night, there is a genuine “peace dividend” to be gleaned from just dropping and walking away from grudges, arguments, etc…
just drop’em, steer the energy thus wasted back into things you want to build for yourself not tear down for others
easier said than done, as a stubborn argumentative vindictive MF myself i had to learn this the hard way
Boo! A horses’ head would have sent a stronger message.
hah! i’m with rev max. this smacks of fraud to me. she just “happened” to know the theban script. and it just “happened” to not break any windows/do any monetary damage. come on now. coincidences have never been so inexspensive to get media attention.
Hm, that’s a good point. Maybe she runs a pagan bookstore or something. Let’s check it out…
Well I haven’t found anything specifically, but this article seems to be EVERYWHERE online…. What nerve is it touching exactly that so many people are picking it up and repeating it? What’s really going on in this story?
Hmm… I didn’t actually mean to imply that this was a fraud, but as long as Andrew is mentioning it… that sounds pretty plausible too.
OTOH, why theban and concrete?
If she had burned a cross on her lawn and spray painted “sinner repent!” on her garage door - and then pretended to find these when she woke up in the morning - she’d be on Montel, Oprah and Dr. Phil by now, and probably have a book deal too.
Hrrmm. Classic media virus… stroke the flames, it’s witch burning time!
(i dont mean that literally Mrs. Jill Pagan, please dont take that seriously! i abhor violence, unless it’s written in assyrian. or phonecian, now there’s a hex’in language for you!)
Q: does the name Jill Pagan sound unauthentic to anyone else?
I agree on that. If it’s simply a matter of getting attention, the obvious thing would have been to make it a Christian-on-Wiccan thing. The very fact that it’s not makes it seem like there’s really something going on.
Yeah, seriously. Hey, maybe she is trying to get a book deal….? It’s a long shot, but having a media splash like that could be enough to get you over the hump. Like maybe between this and her last name, she could be trying to craft the message: “Im so pagan that other pagans are jealous.”
I really don’t know though. It’s all purely speculation.
heh, this is flagler county florida, one down from where i used to live. they’re not only witches, they’re also likely back-water rednecks. thus the brick tossing.
my question is, how can it be a hate crime if it’s witch-on-witch action? i mean, if i toss a brick at you because i hate *you* and not your race, does that mean i committed a hate crime?
Well I googled Theban script and I was only able to find one .gif file consisting of an ‘alphabet’ which apparently is manipulated to just write English in some type of Tolkiensian runes. I found no etymlogical info - ie. it’s not enochian with a dictionary of words and stuff… pretty bizarre, I mean finding only one web site with this alphabet.
http://magick-whispers.com/alphabets.htm
My vibe was if you look into druid and wiccan organizations, there are some pretty specific adherences to particular dogmas and schools:
http://www.witchvox.com/vn/gr/usnj_gra.html
Inter coven rivalry? Hmm… An that it harm none? You’d think the brick thrower was wiccan…
Ms. Pagan seems to be active in 2 or 3 counties in Florida with regards to participating in planning _pagan_ meetings and events. Kinda noobish, IMNSHO, sponsored events and such, probably not a revenue stream issue.
I’m a little confused with regards to how she calls herself a witch yet she is heralded as a pagan in all these MSM articles.
And here’s the question: What did the note say?
-tc