Three letters: LSD. That stuff completely erases imprints in adults, if done under the proper circumstances. Cures alcoholism too, according to pre-1969 studies.

Hebrides: Actually, I didn’t hate to tell you, because it IS cool. I just didn’t want to be seen as a balloon popper or a wet blanket.

that rapaille says kids do the re-imprinting thing more easily or effectively makes a bit of sense, neurologically. the connections are still much more flexible in childhood, as connectivity is still being established and pathways have not become so set from repeated use. or sez this lay person. is that part uv why folks like jesus said that one must become as a child to enter the kingdom of god?

keith johnstone, one of the gurus of improvisational theater has a great quote to that effect, saying: “Adults are atrophied children.” And in general, it is much easier for kids to learn and do improv theater than grown-ups and adults with all the social restraints and anxieties and self-censorships they’ve taken in.

channel null: more! more now! eye love and hate cliff-hangers!

as fascinating as this post is, no one has mentioned the fact that we humans have the capacity to change our code passwords. Therefore, there’s no real danger in someone “breaking the code” because a new, more complex one can be designed and imprinted in no time at all.

Yeah I posted something about that in the forum, James. About how I would have been curious to see them go into in that special the ways in which we can forge new imprints. Rapaille claims in the interview that you can’t do it as effectively when you’re not a kid. Or maybe not as deeply unconscious. But I think any time we use a new word, symbol set or system of jargon, we are doing something similar. Think of all the people suddenly now using words like “gnostic, demiurge, archon,” etc. These words have somehow become imprinted by people who found positive associations with them. Or you could look at Scientology (or Landmark Education), where the whole thing pretty much deals with re-imprinting language to mean something different than consensus reality says it means.

I think the same thing probably is studied in relation to brand names, names of new products, companies, etc.

Also: as fascinating as this post is, no one has mentioned the fact that we humans have the capacity to change our code passwords. Therefore, there’s no real danger in someone “breaking the code” because a new, more complex one can be designed and imprinted in no time at all.

But I do agree that most of what people say, whteher cortex or reptilian-based, is BS. But the average con man on the street can do it without breaking it down into codes, and what’s more– he wouldn’t be able to explain it either.

that made kmee smile, jp!

prunesqualloreye: eye recently had a dream which ended with kmee as a child dancing on a large green hill with a bunch of other kids and a bunch of Santa Clauses (Santa Clai? Clau?) while we all sang some happy song who’s only word was “Yo.” (Significant? eye grew up in a bilingual house…enough speculation! eye zetetic this!) When the Santas disappeared and the other kids disappeared…some invisible other kid started interrogating kmee about what had just happened, saying that only eye and m’eye friend Noah had scene the santas. eye sort uv ignored this invisible kid and looked up at the clear blue sky, where, disguising itself as a cloud, was the Eye in der pyramid, watching.

kylark: Rapaille would tell you to NOT believe m’eye explanations!…that is part uv it. calling m’eye attention to the first person usage. it’s also putting a gloss on things…associating eye and kmee with body parts…eye’ll say no more on that point. also, it’s fun, if you wanna gno!

maybe we can use Rapaille’s techniques to get people to stop using ‘eye’ in place of ‘I.’

Eye like it.

Which leads me to ask, if no one else has already. Hebrides, why do you do that? (Is it because you want to make yourself more aware of when you’re saying “I” and “me,” and thereby use those pronouns less?)

maybe we can use Rapaille’s techniques to get people to stop using ‘eye’ in place of ‘I.’

Whoa, that’s awesome.

This Rapaille stuff is great. I don’t see it as evil so much as cutting through all the bullshit. “We don’t care what they say; we don’t believe what they say.” Beautiful! Of course, it always seemed pretty obvious to me why people buy Hummers.

eye worked in a “traditional” market research/ public opinion firm for a few years and it was fairly manipulative. (it’s all how you create the set leading up to the questions you really want to get answered, how you word them, etc., to increase the probability of getting the kinds of responses the client wants.) The part where Rapaille says the answers they give in the intellectual part of his sessions are all the shit they’ve already been told by the marketeers are their reasons for buying and wanting things is very informative on this point. And commercials and ad copy work in that way–occupy the rational brain with something…all those reasonable sounding “becauses” for getting the product, in the meantime, it’s all the jump-cuts and action and images and colors that are most likely to tap into the emotional triggers of the target audience. Hypnotherapists often do the same thing in a session. For example, Milton Erickson, am told, would sometimes drone on with an “induction” where the person had to imagine doing equations on a chalk board and then erasing them and doing them over again…stuff to get the rational mind occupied so that he could more easily access the subconscious without having to worry about the “gatekeeper” mind getting in the way of changing the behavioral/emotional imprint.
Reason is, rather than being the “God” of the brain, really more like the angel with the flaming sword that God puts at the entrance of the Garden of Eden after kickin’ them naked hippies Adam and Eve out.

Having not seen the Frontline special, I’m guessing, this guy does sort of the same stuff to uncover the imprints and triggers for words. And then to change realities in the service of the corporate and product tulpas. Ain’t sayin’ that’s not good. But eye definitely ain’t sayin’ it’s good, either. If you’re refining your ability to do the same thing in relation to understanding people and having deeper, better connections and community, that can be a noble and positive use of these kinds of techniques.

Watch your pacing and leading.