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	<title>Comments on: The Gnostic Equivalent of Otherkin?</title>
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		<title>By: Benway</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8987</link>
		<dc:creator>Benway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She responded on her blog today after reading this http://www.livejournal.com/users/overlord_mordax/41149.html
Didn't talk about it much today, mostly just Robert Rankin, but I'll be back. Or she'll be back. I'm really interested in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She responded on her blog today after reading this <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/overlord_mordax/41149.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.livejournal.com/users/overlord_mordax/41149.html'>http://www.livejournal.com/users/overlord_mordax/41149.html</a><br />
Didn&#8217;t talk about it much today, mostly just Robert Rankin, but I&#8217;ll be back. Or she&#8217;ll be back. I&#8217;m really interested in this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that's really compelling. I'd be very very curious to hear more about that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s really compelling. I&#8217;d be very very curious to hear more about that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Benway</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8982</link>
		<dc:creator>Benway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly enough I sent a message to one of the people linked on the other otherkin page, and we ended up talking. She was actually okay, and a bit surprised to have been included. She seemed to think the others on the list were a bit nuts. 

Anyway, her thing is that she remembers being, not an elf, but a non-human supernatural being as part of a strictly heirarchical organisation which fed on fear. 

Sound familiar? She says she hasn't read anything about gnosticism until now. What if THAT was true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough I sent a message to one of the people linked on the other otherkin page, and we ended up talking. She was actually okay, and a bit surprised to have been included. She seemed to think the others on the list were a bit nuts. </p>
<p>Anyway, her thing is that she remembers being, not an elf, but a non-human supernatural being as part of a strictly heirarchical organisation which fed on fear. </p>
<p>Sound familiar? She says she hasn&#8217;t read anything about gnosticism until now. What if THAT was true?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8979</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That chart is awesome.</description>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8975</link>
		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On topic: &lt;a href="http://www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On topic: <a href="http://www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif'>http://www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif</a></p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8964</link>
		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah well you haven't lived until you've met his cousin &lt;em&gt;Anal &lt;/em&gt;Roberts, the furry televangelical theriomorphic otherkin. He has a thing for banana slugs I hear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah well you haven&#8217;t lived until you&#8217;ve met his cousin <em>Anal </em>Roberts, the furry televangelical theriomorphic otherkin. He has a thing for banana slugs I hear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8963</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, this seems pretty much awesome. I'm gonna do some research and post separately on his work

http://www.higherd.org/
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/007/11.19.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this seems pretty much awesome. I&#8217;m gonna do some research and post separately on his work</p>
<p><a href="http://www.higherd.org/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.higherd.org/'>http://www.higherd.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/007/11.19.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/007/11.19.html'>http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/007/11.19.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8961</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh whoops, I just moderated that comment. There he is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh whoops, I just moderated that comment. There he is!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8960</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's this guy's name? Can you find me a link?

Heheh. "Oral" Roberts. That never ceases to crack me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s this guy&#8217;s name? Can you find me a link?</p>
<p>Heheh. &#8220;Oral&#8221; Roberts. That never ceases to crack me up.</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8959</link>
		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.thislife.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.thislife.org/&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Heretics&lt;/strong&gt;
The story of Reverend Carlton Pearson (pictured), an evangelical pastor in Tulsa, Oklahoma. His church, Higher Dimensions, was once one of the biggest in the city, drawing crowds of 5,000 people every Sunday. But several years ago, scandal engulfed the Reverend, he was denounced by almost all his former supporters, and today his congregation is just a few hundred people. He didn't have an affair. He didn't embezzle lots of money. His sin was something that to a lot of people is far worse ... he stopped believing in hell.

&lt;a href="http://www.hds.harvard.edu/news/events_online/black_pentecostalism_3.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Video of Carlton Pearson and other ministers&lt;/a&gt; (including Bishop Yvette Flunder, who he talks about in his story) at a Harvard Divinity School conference last spring, talking about new directions in Pentecostalism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><strong>Heretics</strong><br />
The story of Reverend Carlton Pearson (pictured), an evangelical pastor in Tulsa, Oklahoma. His church, Higher Dimensions, was once one of the biggest in the city, drawing crowds of 5,000 people every Sunday. But several years ago, scandal engulfed the Reverend, he was denounced by almost all his former supporters, and today his congregation is just a few hundred people. He didn&#8217;t have an affair. He didn&#8217;t embezzle lots of money. His sin was something that to a lot of people is far worse &#8230; he stopped believing in hell.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hds.harvard.edu/news/events_online/black_pentecostalism_3.html" rel="nofollow">Video of Carlton Pearson and other ministers</a> (including Bishop Yvette Flunder, who he talks about in his story) at a Harvard Divinity School conference last spring, talking about new directions in Pentecostalism.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8958</link>
		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT, but did anyone hear that NPR "This American Life" feature on Saturday about that black televangelist who had been adopted by Oral Roberts, and had this huge miulti-media ministry in Tulsa, and then rec'd a "word from the Lord" that the Bible wasn't perfect, that Jesus saved everyone - even those who never accepted him(!) and everyone is going to heaven cause there is no Hell?

Man, it was fascinating, the guy's church went from 2000 people to 200 almost overnight, had to foreclose on his home, friends wouldn't return his calls, Roberts disowned him, etc. 

OTOH now he lets gays come to his services which he didn't used to when he was still a celebrity. Real innaressin'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but did anyone hear that NPR &#8220;This American Life&#8221; feature on Saturday about that black televangelist who had been adopted by Oral Roberts, and had this huge miulti-media ministry in Tulsa, and then rec&#8217;d a &#8220;word from the Lord&#8221; that the Bible wasn&#8217;t perfect, that Jesus saved everyone - even those who never accepted him(!) and everyone is going to heaven cause there is no Hell?</p>
<p>Man, it was fascinating, the guy&#8217;s church went from 2000 people to 200 almost overnight, had to foreclose on his home, friends wouldn&#8217;t return his calls, Roberts disowned him, etc. </p>
<p>OTOH now he lets gays come to his services which he didn&#8217;t used to when he was still a celebrity. Real innaressin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8955</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;that silly â€˜neoâ€™ dude who did that dealey plaza thingie and gets all upset if you donâ€™t read his five zillion words on the subject probably already fits the bill a little&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, I thought of that as well, and am planning a post on it - without tooting his horn too much. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>that silly â€˜neoâ€™ dude who did that dealey plaza thingie and gets all upset if you donâ€™t read his five zillion words on the subject probably already fits the bill a little</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I thought of that as well, and am planning a post on it - without tooting his horn too much.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to Determine Whether You are a Descendant of Jesus and Mary Magdalene:

1.  Do you have any ancestors from Northern France?

2.  Do you ever feel pain in your palms, feet, side and forehead?

3.  Are you keen on redheads?

4.  Are you particularly bouyant?

5.  Are you inexplicably fascinated with cups or chalices?

6.  Are you frequently invited to weddings and asked to bring the booze?

7.  Have you ever been betrayed by a good friend?

If you answered yes to one or more of these questions, YOU MIGHT BE RELATED TO JESUS CHRIST!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to Determine Whether You are a Descendant of Jesus and Mary Magdalene:</p>
<p>1.  Do you have any ancestors from Northern France?</p>
<p>2.  Do you ever feel pain in your palms, feet, side and forehead?</p>
<p>3.  Are you keen on redheads?</p>
<p>4.  Are you particularly bouyant?</p>
<p>5.  Are you inexplicably fascinated with cups or chalices?</p>
<p>6.  Are you frequently invited to weddings and asked to bring the booze?</p>
<p>7.  Have you ever been betrayed by a good friend?</p>
<p>If you answered yes to one or more of these questions, YOU MIGHT BE RELATED TO JESUS CHRIST!</p>
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		<title>By: Emerson</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8951</link>
		<dc:creator>Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;FYI - I wuz Xmas shopping this weekend and saw, no lie, â€œGnosticism for Dummiesâ€.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you remembering "The complete idiots guide to the gnostic gospels". I gave into temptation and bought it a while back. Here's the crazy thing, I actually thought it was among the better books on Gnosticism I've seen. I think it might be the only one out there aimed at the public which looks at any of the Nag Hammadi texts other than the Gospel of thomas or mary. The only real downside is that I got a definite vibe that the author was trying to save women who came to it from the Da Vinci Code from converting. Any negitive thing about Gnostic groups treatment of women seemed to get ten times stronger while the positive was buried, with the opposite true for his descriptions of women in the mainstream church. Still, with that one aside, I was really shocked by how good the book is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>FYI - I wuz Xmas shopping this weekend and saw, no lie, â€œGnosticism for Dummiesâ€.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you remembering &#8220;The complete idiots guide to the gnostic gospels&#8221;. I gave into temptation and bought it a while back. Here&#8217;s the crazy thing, I actually thought it was among the better books on Gnosticism I&#8217;ve seen. I think it might be the only one out there aimed at the public which looks at any of the Nag Hammadi texts other than the Gospel of thomas or mary. The only real downside is that I got a definite vibe that the author was trying to save women who came to it from the Da Vinci Code from converting. Any negitive thing about Gnostic groups treatment of women seemed to get ten times stronger while the positive was buried, with the opposite true for his descriptions of women in the mainstream church. Still, with that one aside, I was really shocked by how good the book is.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one would welcome some crazy phildickian past-life anamnesis in contemporary gnosticism. Or--yes--even that crazy Neo guy. Simply because it would confront everyone's notions of reality in a very direct way. That seems like a worthy gnostic goal to me.

On the otherkin thing: those "Encyclopaedia Dramatica" links on skullfood made me laugh for like 10 minutes straight. They were BRUTAL! In the best way possible. If you're going to be cruel you might as well be hilariously cruel.

My gf told me a story of how she was reading Brown University's Daily Jolt website in a thread about housing for trannies. And someone posted, "Well if trannies should get special tranny housing, then otherkin should get special otherkin housing." Of course people responded with, "WTF is otherkin?" I'm told the conversation that ensued was interesting, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one would welcome some crazy phildickian past-life anamnesis in contemporary gnosticism. Or&#8211;yes&#8211;even that crazy Neo guy. Simply because it would confront everyone&#8217;s notions of reality in a very direct way. That seems like a worthy gnostic goal to me.</p>
<p>On the otherkin thing: those &#8220;Encyclopaedia Dramatica&#8221; links on skullfood made me laugh for like 10 minutes straight. They were BRUTAL! In the best way possible. If you&#8217;re going to be cruel you might as well be hilariously cruel.</p>
<p>My gf told me a story of how she was reading Brown University&#8217;s Daily Jolt website in a thread about housing for trannies. And someone posted, &#8220;Well if trannies should get special tranny housing, then otherkin should get special otherkin housing.&#8221; Of course people responded with, &#8220;WTF is otherkin?&#8221; I&#8217;m told the conversation that ensued was interesting, to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh, i hate to say it, but that silly 'neo' dude who did that dealey plaza thingie and gets all upset if you don't read his five zillion words on the subject probably already fits the bill a little (&lt;a href="http://www.snant.com/fp/archives/strange-device-found-in-dealy-plaza/" rel="nofollow"&gt;if you don't know what i'm talkin' about, follow the comments thread over here&lt;/a&gt;).  he doesn't seem to be capitalizing on it financially just yet, but he's already got a bunch of minions who seem bent on declaring him the new messiah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh, i hate to say it, but that silly &#8216;neo&#8217; dude who did that dealey plaza thingie and gets all upset if you don&#8217;t read his five zillion words on the subject probably already fits the bill a little (<a href="http://www.snant.com/fp/archives/strange-device-found-in-dealy-plaza/" rel="nofollow">if you don&#8217;t know what i&#8217;m talkin&#8217; about, follow the comments thread over here</a>).  he doesn&#8217;t seem to be capitalizing on it financially just yet, but he&#8217;s already got a bunch of minions who seem bent on declaring him the new messiah.</p>
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		<title>By: SubstanceM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SubstanceM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - I wuz Xmas shopping this weekend and saw, no lie, "Gnosticism for Dummies".
Pretty good indicator of the increasing popularity of or interest in Gnostic thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI - I wuz Xmas shopping this weekend and saw, no lie, &#8220;Gnosticism for Dummies&#8221;.<br />
Pretty good indicator of the increasing popularity of or interest in Gnostic thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. the only reason I linked to them is because they are sold by JZ Knight/Ramtha who I think is hilarious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. the only reason I linked to them is because they are sold by JZ Knight/Ramtha who I think is hilarious</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8936</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What! Are you serious? They cost $250 bucks! Polar fleece my ass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What! Are you serious? They cost $250 bucks! Polar fleece my ass!</p>
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		<title>By: Kylark</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/the-gnostic-equivalent-of-otherkin/comment-page-1/#comment-8929</link>
		<dc:creator>Kylark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those elven robes you linked to are made of polar fleece.  They're not going to look so magical when they get all nubby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those elven robes you linked to are made of polar fleece.  They&#8217;re not going to look so magical when they get all nubby!</p>
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