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		<title>By: Convergence Symbol - Pop Occulture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Convergence Symbol - Pop Occulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Created and sent to me by Elena, as a response to an older article I wrote which couldn&#8217;t be more appropriate right now, actually. Thanks Elena! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/01/10/chaos-convergence-symbols/comment-page-1/#comment-9704</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 01:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if what you like, Tim, is the sense of organization - the convergence from the four corners to the center... the four directions.  In the chaos symbol the movement is outward, and in the convergence it's inward.  The four corners offer stability as well.

You sure come up with some interesting topics here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if what you like, Tim, is the sense of organization - the convergence from the four corners to the center&#8230; the four directions.  In the chaos symbol the movement is outward, and in the convergence it&#8217;s inward.  The four corners offer stability as well.</p>
<p>You sure come up with some interesting topics here!</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah, swastika blah blah blah. I was waiting for that. Maybe thereâ€™s a way to un-swastikulize it. I donâ€™t know. Any ideas?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

mmm... possibly can't be done.  Not quite the best analogy.. but that's like trying to reassociate the cross with roman-style justice, and not christianity or the idea of a certain type of sacrifice.  

It would probably take a very long time before that'd be erased from the collective consciousness. Nobody wants to even be standing next to that symbol(or anything that looks like it for that matter) on a street corner, for fear someone may think that they are somehow associated with it, or approve of it being there... or even just don't mind it. It also doesn't help that the neo nazis are still using it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, swastika blah blah blah. I was waiting for that. Maybe thereâ€™s a way to un-swastikulize it. I donâ€™t know. Any ideas?</p></blockquote>
<p>mmm&#8230; possibly can&#8217;t be done.  Not quite the best analogy.. but that&#8217;s like trying to reassociate the cross with roman-style justice, and not christianity or the idea of a certain type of sacrifice.  </p>
<p>It would probably take a very long time before that&#8217;d be erased from the collective consciousness. Nobody wants to even be standing next to that symbol(or anything that looks like it for that matter) on a street corner, for fear someone may think that they are somehow associated with it, or approve of it being there&#8230; or even just don&#8217;t mind it. It also doesn&#8217;t help that the neo nazis are still using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh awesome! Thank you for finding that. Kind of funny how it has such a "dry" meaning officially, but that it sparked such a rich meaning in my head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh awesome! Thank you for finding that. Kind of funny how it has such a &#8220;dry&#8221; meaning officially, but that it sparked such a rich meaning in my head&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little research turned up the following:

&lt;a href="http://docs.hp.com/en/A7027-96024-en/ch01s10.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://docs.hp.com/en/A7027-96024-en/ch01s10.html&lt;/a&gt;

The Taiwan EPA requires that imported dry batteries display "recovery marks" to indicate the necessity of proper disposal.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little research turned up the following:</p>
<p><a href="http://docs.hp.com/en/A7027-96024-en/ch01s10.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://docs.hp.com/en/A7027-96024-en/ch01s10.html'>http://docs.hp.com/en/A7027-96024-en/ch01s10.html</a></p>
<p>The Taiwan EPA requires that imported dry batteries display &#8220;recovery marks&#8221; to indicate the necessity of proper disposal.</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT but funny:

&lt;blockquote&gt;A man enters a bar and orders a drink. The bar has a robot bartender. The robot serves him a perfectly prepared cocktail, and then asks him, "What's your IQ?" The man replies "150" and the robot makes conversation about global warming factors, quantum mechanics, spirituality, biomimicry, environmental interconnectedness, string theory, nano-technology, and sexual proclivities..

Very impressed, the customer thinks, "This is really cool," and decides to test the robot. He walks out of the bar, turns around, and comes back in for another drink. Again, the robot serves him the perfectly prepared drink and asks him, "What's your IQ?" The man responds, "about a 100." Immediately the robot starts talking, but this time about football, NASCAR, baseball, supermodels, favorite fast foods, guns, and women's breasts.

Really impressed, the man decides to give the robot one more test. He heads out the door and returns. The robot serves him and asks, "What's your IQ?" The man replies, "Er . . . 50 . . . I think." And the robot says... real slowly ..............

"So.............. ya gonna vote for Bush again?"&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT but funny:</p>
<blockquote><p>A man enters a bar and orders a drink. The bar has a robot bartender. The robot serves him a perfectly prepared cocktail, and then asks him, &#8220;What&#8217;s your IQ?&#8221; The man replies &#8220;150&#8243; and the robot makes conversation about global warming factors, quantum mechanics, spirituality, biomimicry, environmental interconnectedness, string theory, nano-technology, and sexual proclivities..</p>
<p>Very impressed, the customer thinks, &#8220;This is really cool,&#8221; and decides to test the robot. He walks out of the bar, turns around, and comes back in for another drink. Again, the robot serves him the perfectly prepared drink and asks him, &#8220;What&#8217;s your IQ?&#8221; The man responds, &#8220;about a 100.&#8221; Immediately the robot starts talking, but this time about football, NASCAR, baseball, supermodels, favorite fast foods, guns, and women&#8217;s breasts.</p>
<p>Really impressed, the man decides to give the robot one more test. He heads out the door and returns. The robot serves him and asks, &#8220;What&#8217;s your IQ?&#8221; The man replies, &#8220;Er . . . 50 . . . I think.&#8221; And the robot says&#8230; real slowly &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;So&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. ya gonna vote for Bush again?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Kylark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kylark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the two symbols next to each other.  They seem to go well together. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the two symbols next to each other.  They seem to go well together.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the swastika is an ancient indian or middleasian symbol. The Nazis took it as a reminder of their supposedly arian culture.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;well, i was kinda kidding&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh yeah, I know. But its something taht would obviously come up for other people. Just thought I'd put it out there and see how long it took to come up. Obviously not long. 

Anyway, my re-created version of it is a little different from the size and relationships of the symbol I copied it from. It might make sense if it is from Taiwan, because they probably wouldn't have the same cultural association with the swastika as us. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>well, i was kinda kidding</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh yeah, I know. But its something taht would obviously come up for other people. Just thought I&#8217;d put it out there and see how long it took to come up. Obviously not long. </p>
<p>Anyway, my re-created version of it is a little different from the size and relationships of the symbol I copied it from. It might make sense if it is from Taiwan, because they probably wouldn&#8217;t have the same cultural association with the swastika as us.</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I was waiting for that. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

happy to oblige

BTW above link is wrong make that &lt;a href="http://www.manwoman.net" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.manwoman.net&lt;/a&gt; instead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was waiting for that. </p></blockquote>
<p>happy to oblige</p>
<p>BTW above link is wrong make that <a href="http://www.manwoman.net" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.manwoman.net'>http://www.manwoman.net</a> instead</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i was kinda kidding, the swastika is a very basic archetypal form, its inevitable that a lot of cool symbols would resemble it - it is a pretty cool symbol itself IMHO

that's why i provided the link to &lt;a href="http://www.manwomen.net" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.manwomen.net&lt;/a&gt;, he is trying to "reclaim" the swastika, I agree thats something important that needs to get done

 if the nazis had used a spiral or a triangle instead would those be off limits now? I sure hope not. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i was kinda kidding, the swastika is a very basic archetypal form, its inevitable that a lot of cool symbols would resemble it - it is a pretty cool symbol itself IMHO</p>
<p>that&#8217;s why i provided the link to <a href="http://www.manwomen.net" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.manwomen.net'>http://www.manwomen.net</a>, he is trying to &#8220;reclaim&#8221; the swastika, I agree thats something important that needs to get done</p>
<p> if the nazis had used a spiral or a triangle instead would those be off limits now? I sure hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, swastika blah blah blah. I was waiting for that. Maybe there's a way to un-swastikulize it. I don't know. Any ideas?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Itâ€™s cool that it also forms arrows pointing outwards, like energy spiralling in and then being released again.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, you mean in the negative space, with white arrows? I totally missed that. Good eyes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, swastika blah blah blah. I was waiting for that. Maybe there&#8217;s a way to un-swastikulize it. I don&#8217;t know. Any ideas?</p>
<blockquote><p>Itâ€™s cool that it also forms arrows pointing outwards, like energy spiralling in and then being released again.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, you mean in the negative space, with white arrows? I totally missed that. Good eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Monster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's cool that it also forms arrows pointing outwards, like energy spiralling in and then being released again. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s cool that it also forms arrows pointing outwards, like energy spiralling in and then being released again.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooh, yeah, max has a point . . . .

i do love the symbol, though.  it'd look nice on a &lt;strike&gt;nifty red armband&lt;/strike&gt; t-shirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooh, yeah, max has a point . . . .</p>
<p>i do love the symbol, though.  it&#8217;d look nice on a <strike>nifty red armband</strike> t-shirt.</p>
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		<title>By: rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me be the first to obnoxiously point out that this "emergence symbol" is &lt;a href="http://www.manwoman.net" rel="nofollow"&gt;not dissimilar in form from a swastika&lt;/a&gt;.

There. Now nobody else can do so without copying me! Nyah nyah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me be the first to obnoxiously point out that this &#8220;emergence symbol&#8221; is <a href="http://www.manwoman.net" rel="nofollow">not dissimilar in form from a swastika</a>.</p>
<p>There. Now nobody else can do so without copying me! Nyah nyah!</p>
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