Comments on: Calling All Jedi!

By: james

james — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:10:04 +0000

Of course there’s an impact on people, but I guess it depends on which conspiracy you want to believe in. People overlook the fact that the offical story of what happened on 9/11 is, in itself, a conspiracy theory– the news media pieced together the plot in the ensuing days, but there are still many unanswered questions as to how these 19 men pulled it off.

But because that particular CT revolves around big bad Muslims, it’s easier to digest for the American people. However, ask a military man (esp. from the Air Force) if they believe Flight 93 was shot down as a safety measure (rather than comandeered by the passengers) and listen to what they have to say.

The Village Voice has a bunch of articles about the 9-11 Truth movement, as well as their take on what constitutes a CT. It looks to me like CT is getting a makeover for the 21st Century, and might possibly reach a critical mass. http://www.villagevoice.com

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:33:22 +0000

i think its fun too. dont get me wrong. but that doesn’t mean there’s a lasting psychological impact this stuff can have on people.

By: jp

jp — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:10:37 +0000

Am I the only conspiracy theorist/hobbyist in the world who thinks itâ€™s just plain FUN to entertain the notion that Dick Cheney is a bigger asshole than even he lets on?

nah, i think it’s fun, too. thus the post on my site. what do i *personally* believe? i think cheney and whittington were drunk in the woods with two women who weren’t they’re wives, and the ‘cover-up’ is simply to convince people that cheney isn’t a drunken, violent lecher who may have been cheating on his wife.

BUT, i think the *possibility* that cheney shot the guy in order to ‘teach him a lesson’ should at least get some props, especially since the media coverage has been almost completely benign. it’s just an interesting story is all.

By: Gina

Gina — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:09:13 +0000

why all the energy devoted to duality, haven’t we already learned that these “evil” constructs, are just that…constructs. Lessons for our own hero’s journey?

By: Roy the wonderboy

Roy the wonderboy — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:16:08 +0000

Hey am I wrong to think that the bad guy in “Wolf Creek,” the big burly Australian Outback guy, was actually the good guy? Is it wrong or “bad” to think that? And that the annoying, “hip” tourist people he killed and were perhaps people like Tim Boucher, ktulu, null, jk, etc? More and more, when I watch movies like that, I can’t help but think that the big bad, “evil” guy with the hack saw or the machete is actually the good guy, and the dumb annoying little twenty something’s actually deserved what they got. Thoughts, comments? I mean in Wolf Creek, were we actually supposed to feel bad that those dumb girls got butchered? I didn’t, they were loud, rude, and disrespectful, totally up until the point that they finally bit the dust. Can someone please explain to me how that guy wasn’t doing society a favor?

By: Roy the wonderboy

Roy the wonderboy — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:01:45 +0000

The gnostic insurgency must be stopped at all costs.

By: james

james — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:24:04 +0000

Am I the only conspiracy theorist/hobbyist in the world who thinks it’s just plain FUN to entertain the notion that Dick Cheney is a bigger asshole than even he lets on?

I even tried to create a role-playing game based upon CT, but I stopped because (1) it would take too long, and (2) I don’t know the first thing about role-playing games. Plus, there’s probably already a game out there like that, where people can choose their cabal (ex: Mason/CIA/Merovingian with level 10 armor or whatever you call it) and try to take over the world.

If there is, will someone let me know about it?

btw: I don’t think it’s fetishizing the exploits of the overlords when comics find humor in Cheney’s idiocy. It’s more like shooting fish in a barrel.

By: hebrides

hebrides — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:29:43 +0000

Eye agree with what ktulu says about conspiracy theorists exploring their own darkness within via the ferretting out uv what the forces of the demiurge are doin’. in m’eye most honest moments, eye gotta admit that that seems to act as one aspect uv what eye’m doin’ when eye’m spendin’ time lurkin’ on RI or reading Peter Lavenda or stuff about covert and ugly ops. but it ain’t the only thing eye’m doin…but it may, in fact, be the most “useful” part uv what eye’m doing, short uv being willing and able to disconnect from the system completely. eye guess that’s another aspect, reminding one uv why it may be valid and worthwhile to disconnect and figure out another way to live where you don’t contribute to the apparent madness, which leads to…focusing on that postive here and now stuff–what can eye really do? what am eye doing? what can eye be doing instead? how can eye charge up the positive energies?

good postings, as per usual.

By: Etheric Warriors - Pop Occulture

Etheric Warriors - Pop Occulture — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:19:18 +0000

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By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:32:49 +0000

Ktulu:

I donâ€™t know if they exist, to be honest.

You don’t have to know or believe for them to exist. Realizing that is actually quite freeing.

the only Jedi youâ€™ll ever find is within you.

Maybe that’s true, but the question still remains of how do you draw this fellow out into the world? In many ways, I think conspiracy theorists are exploring their own darkness within, but doing so in an externalized way. Fact is, it’s easier to delve down into the depths when we project them outward. Similarly, I suspect that it will be easier for most of us to “find the Jedi within” by looking for his traces on the world at large.

Patience:

When God moves he leaves no doubt.

I love the power of that quote!

SubstanceM:

(And it is pretty funny for me to be defending a religous organization since I am not too personally fond of the formatâ€¦)

Absolutely. I find myself doing that all the time now - coming to the defense of things that I at one point very much opposed. It’s a strange transformation…

By: SubstanceM

SubstanceM — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:07:05 +0000

Great post - I have also been thinking along these lines for a while now.
Here’s a good example - the Shriners. I know they are tied in with Freemasonry (in the vien where Freemason’s are considered to be a bad thing) but I had to bring my daughter to the Shriner hospital for a knee surgery. In her case it was a minor operation, but they had excellent services and people. The main thing that struck me is the great work they do every day with people who have much more serious disabilities and would otherwise, and maybe in another time period, have no help and no hope. So there are the “good guys”. Now it is easy enough to get cynical or conspiratorial and decide that they only do that because of the profit to be made in the health care industry, selling prosthetic devices and so forth. True but that is not the main feeling you come away with - it is one of compassion and good people giving there lives to help others who need help. Also in the Catholic church - evil empire babylon central - sure there are many problems and pedophilia is one of the darkest evils I can think of - but shit man the people involved at community levels are mostly just trying to help others and feel a sense of community and goodness from the process of helping others. Are they Jedi or pure good - not a chance. But they are considerate of the common good and keep that in mind when making personal choices on a day to day basis. Everyone can make mistakes and bad decisions, but to have the good in mind primarily is the step that is needed to get to the kind of society we are hoping for.
(And it is pretty funny for me to be defending a religous organization since I am not too personally fond of the format…)
Any way, if I really had to try to name the modern day mythical Jedi in an epic Star Wars kind of way, I would choose the band Fishbone. Not because they are not humans with human faults and desires, but because the message they convey through music and words is essentially positive and designed to help people receive that message in a non-sappy and non- organized religous kind of way. Speaking directly to the agressive, fucked up society about how it is not all about YOU ALONE.

By: patience

patience — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:52:29 +0000

Very true. By studying the designs of the devil you are not opposing him but opening yourself up for ensnarement.

Tim, the world is full of positive spiritual developments as well as positive spiritual warriors. The easiest to find is probably also the most accessible to you personally. Go to a local Pentecostal Church where the Holy Spirit is welcomed. Watch and be amazed as the promised paraclete performs miracle after miracle. Happens everyday.

Look for a church where some in the body can speak and interpret tongues. When God moves he leaves no doubt.

By: prunesquallori

prunesquallori — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:36:06 +0000

http://www.religioperennis.org

There isn’t just one Jedi order, but for the Force to move, many seemingly conflicting Jedi orders are required. There is only one Force, however.

By: Dale

Dale — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:25:44 +0000

haven’t you heard of the Order? it is a secret, invisible brotherhood with no grades. it is a vast network of individuals working for liberation. some members don’t even know they’re members. initiation into the Order sometimes comes through human agency, and sometimes through the Universe itself. the Order goes under many names: the Jedi, the Invisibles, various “official” occult societies. members of the Order work through psychospiritual alchemy, media memetics, induced pronoia and various other arts to further the establishment of a New Age…

By: bigbaby

bigbaby — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:54:56 +0000

Hi! An excellent post, indeed, and just what we need to start considering, imho. I’ve been a lurker here for quite a while, and finally found something to contribute in this post: I recently downloaded a copy of Mark Durant’s “The 30 Trials of Ix and the Angels,” and think that he’s done a pretty good job of creating a positive occultural experience in it. It has its dark moments, but they seem to me to be cast off by the larger message of the book, which is the transformation of consciousness away from the kind of negativity you describe here, Tim. So maybe there’s a “jedi” for you. Or maybe not. There’s a free copy for download in the members section of lashtal.com (http://www.lashtal.com/nuke/Downloads-req-viewdownload-cid-3.phtml) if anyone’s interested.

By: kmw

kmw — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:14:49 +0000

Great post Tim, I have been wondering what to do, because I do agree that by fighting the Empire and eventually beating it, you become the Empire.

The question “How do I keep my actions Pure and for Good?” has always bugged me, but this article has given me a new perspective on it. Why waste energy on fighting something that will collapse under it’s own weight in time, when I can spend my time on Earth doing honorable deeds for the good of humanity.

Thanks again - Keith.

By: Ktulu

Ktulu — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:59:39 +0000

I don’t know if they exist, to be honest. The tide of Kali’s Yuga is coming to a head, and it makes me wonder if there really are “Jedi”, “Grey-robed Christians”, or even “Ascended Masters” left in our presence.

No, I think the real issue is not searching, but being. There’s nothing wrong with learning and growing in a search through the past, but the only Jedi you’ll ever find is within you. We are all capable of becoming Sith or Jedi in our own ways; we all contain a little bit of Anakin. The choice to do “good”, or give in to “bad”, is all ours.

The ball is in our court; there’s no need to look for it. Just hit it!

By: Cornelia

Cornelia — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:12:11 +0000

Great. And true.
Now… where are those Jedi?