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Life’s Mission
I’ve been thinking a lot lately about the idea of having a Life’s Mission. Or else just simply some purpose that you were “brought here” to fulfill. It seems like it’s a difficult thing to talk about without getting into tired religious or cheesy New Age territory. But at the same time, it seems totally worth talking about. Or at least worth thinking about on your own time, in the quiet of your own life, away from the noise and blabber of the internet.
Is there such a thing as a mission that each of us are sent here to do? Who sends us? How are each of us matched up with our missions? I’m sure atheists and others will balk at the idea that any such thing occurs - go ahead and balk then. Leave us to our myths and superstitions. Meanwhile, maybe consider the fact that as an atheist, you’re fulfilling your mission of being contrarian, of playing for the opposing team, to make sure everybody grows and has a good time.
As hard as my life gets sometimes, I realize I don’t have it so bad. Because my mission is clear to me. I’ve been given gifts to utilize, to develop and to share. How I do that - the specifics of it all - are left to my discretion. I’m free to blunder or to hesitate, but I have a roughly hewn compass telling me where I’m going. Do you?
I don’t ask the question to rub it in your face, but out of simple curiosity. Because the people who congregate here to think and share and discuss call themselves so many different things. If you’re not religious or conspicuously spiritual, do you still have a life’s mission, a sense of purpose? Do you want to share with us what it is? If not with us, then with the people in your life who really matter most to you. They know you better than any of us could anyway. What’s your mission? Have you found it? Are you finding it? Are you fulfilling it?
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March 1st, 2006 at 6:11 am
I noticed while still quite young that very few could look at the world without imposing their small minded veiws, even while ignoring the lessions that reality has to teach them.
Because our current way of relating to reality produces such negative outcomes, we must be looking at it incorrectly. My mission to understand reality better has paid great dividends for me personally, however even after more than twenty years I speak only to an empty house. We will create a new set of Criteria for Understanding because our impulse towards growth cannot be forever stimied by our current (dualistic)model.
March 1st, 2006 at 6:15 am
Correcting website address
March 1st, 2006 at 6:55 am
metasarcasm. looking back on truimphs and successes i would hope that from those things i would draw some purpose. parenting, coaching, counceling, living, experiencing. we are certainly given gifts to toy with and to play with until we break them and then try to get them fixed once we realise how valuable they are.
and giving ourselves the permission to just be plain wrong all the time, yet still be miraculously alive.
there are people alive today who are rid of habits such as smoking, anxiety, overeating, alcholism……in part because of decisions i made about my life`s purpose. i take some pleasure in that.
March 1st, 2006 at 9:15 am
in regard to a so-called life mission, two big influences pop up for me (in the form of quotes). the first is joseph campbell — he said people aren’t looking so much for a meaning of life — they’re really looking for an experience of being alive. the second is from a teacher i once had: “our job on this earth is to find out what our job is and to do it.”
in fight club there is a scene where brad pitt pulls a convenient store clerk out into the street and seems to be on the verge of killing him. he asks what it is that person wanted to accomplish before he died… and let him live to go accomplish that task. i use this scene quite often (in my head) to keep myself on track — if i had one thing to do before my time is up, what is it?
a few years ago, it was playing guitar and singing — my goal was to write original songs and play them live. i accomplished that task, even made some loot, and eventually was reading for something else. currently, my life mission revolves around writing a fantasy novel — the novel that (in my eyes) is desperately needed by many and sorrowfully missing from existence.
in both of the above “missions,” however, it was my sheer experience of going about the quest that fueled the inner-fire. and i think the common demoniator is my yearning to “release the light” from myself and others. in learning guitar, a primary motivation was to show others something like this could be done. with the book it is a bit different, but more or less the same — i want to each and every person to reach their full and utmost human potential. the light is everywhere, waiting to be released… i want to do all i can to release it. that is my mission.
March 1st, 2006 at 12:08 pm
(1) From my own experience, it seems like another aspect of the “life’s mission” conversation that ought to be addressed is - how do you follow it or fulfill it without becoming a megalomaniac?
That is - how can your mission be to “save the world” but not turn into a huge dick about it? Not picking on anybody here, just pointing out that that danger seems to increase the more grandiose your life’s mission seems to be.
(2) On another line of thought - can everyone’s mission really be to save the world? Why can’t somebody’s mission be simply to “make the best pizza in the county” or something totally mundane but that really does add to the quality of life? Does anybody have a totally simple “mission” like that?
(3) Also, for people who believe they have found their mission or purpose, do you feel like you’ve been rewarded? That the universe is more responsive to you because of it?
March 1st, 2006 at 12:27 pm
i think ‘purpose’ might be a better word than ‘mission’ (for me). a wise man once told me that anyone who doesn’t seek after some kind of life’s purpose is a teleological criminal. this doesn’t mean you have to have a purpose, it means recognizing that as a member of a conscious universe, it’s a good idea to look for a role you can fulfill, a contribution you can make to the organism. living a purposeless life creates a vacuum in the teleosphere, and people who have at least recognized that they have some kind of purpose are generally more at peace than those who haven’t.
gee, no way do i think that everyone’s life mission can be to ’save the world.’ for some people, it might be to settle down and raise a family and get a job and just exist as happily as possible. for some people, it might be to save lives. and i think skip’s right on about how you don’t have to have one single purpose– your purpose might change now and then.
as for me, yeah, i feel like i have a purpose, which is to toss some gnosticism here and there and see what sticks. i can’t say that the universe is more responsive to me because of it, but i can say that without it i’d feel pretty worthless.
good question, definitely. i don’t know that it’s possible! even jesus & the buddha & gandhi could be pretty big dicks sometimes. i’d say one possible way would maybe be to try to recognize that your ’saving the world’ purpose is no better or worse than someone’s ’settling down and raising a family’ purpose. the teleology is the thing, not the content of that teleology– all have an equal value in the grand scheme. jmho, of course.
March 1st, 2006 at 1:08 pm
I’ve been reading a lot of Thomas Merton and I feel this quote is perhaps appropriate. “In the last analysis, the individual person is responsible for living his own life and for “finding himself.” If he persists in shifting his responsibility to somebody else, he fails to find out the meaning of his own existence.”
Living simply and being open to the vastness of life, and realizing the only reality is the moment which is impermanet and eternal.
March 1st, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Deep question and I am totally lost about it. So far my best shot at it would be “To find the Truth”.
How do I know this is my life’s mission? Because I feel this calling inside me, it never left me, and I would bet my ass off that it will still be there for years to come.
Now the problem is “What Truth?”, well, ahem, no clue so far other than a vague but strong feeling that it is Spiritual in essence, and so is the path there.
Which leads to the next problem, how does one go about it? Now we get practical. Study, read, learn and experience. For the last 8 years, that’s what I have done, skimming through everything from Christianity to Wicca, with all the Franz Bardon, Hermetics, yoga, UFO, New Age etc. you can think of in between.
So far, I have picked Divination as a sure fire travel mate on my way there and yes it has rewarded me big time, to the point of scaring me sometimes. Magick really turns me on but it doesn’t seem to like me much: I tend to doubt/question Thaumaturgy which makes it fail (why blue and noy yellow candle, why does it make a difference really?) and I just can’t wrap my mind around Theurgy (all this will and consciousness talk sounds too easy, and worst even, lobotomic, can’t alter reality but only your perception of it, in other terms if things suck ass tough luck just learn to accept them). Anyways…
The real problem though is one only has 24 h in a day, and one has to work for food, shelter etc. which greatly limits the amount of time dedicated to study, which in turn makes it an even more lengthy and frustrating process.
To answer your points:
(1) Just freaking shut up about it in front of unlike minded people, for your own safety (you know, psychiatric hospital, jail, etc.).
Else, life is big enough to handle you itself if you got it wrong and it will set you straight beleive me.
(2) One’s mission must absolutely be linked to one’s ass exclusively. I can’t even see how one’s purpose would be related to other people. It has to start with you, and then when you have “graduated” and you become light being/enlightened/plug in the term you want, then you can come back fot the others because now you know/understand/have found/whatever you call it.
(3) Oh yeah, big time, and the more you do the more it does.
March 1st, 2006 at 2:13 pm
Read this thread:
http://www.ongenius.com/blog/index.php...13/a-question-to-reveal-your-purpose/
March 1st, 2006 at 4:29 pm
My mother has informed me that she and I share a “mission”. I am my father’s daughter, in that I am practical and grounded like him and carry more of his traits, but my mother is still a strong influence in my spiritual life. I’m not “following her mission” - I just identify with it and was doing it long before she told me we had a shared “mission.” Our mission, to spread unconditional love. There is no reward, other than our own precipitating karma, but it makes me feel good to do it. There is no beginning or end to this work. It is simply to live each day, being a beacon or a living example of peace, understanding and unconditional brotherly love. Doing random acts of kindness is a natural response for me. In a world full of intolerant people haters, I’m glad to do it. I’ve always liked going against the grain.
Giving unconditional love does not mean that I give everyone what they want, nor does it mean placating everyone else at my own expense. It just means that I do what I can, where I can. Sometimes it’s just holding the door to the elevator, sometimes it’s spending an hour and a half talking a junkie out of suicide, sometimes it’s a lot more. My gut tells me where and how much to give, for my own protection. I don’t normally tell people about it - I just go about my “mission” operating under the obvious radar. I have a friend, who is self-admittedly afraid of love in any form. He has no friends. His social life consists of the 15-20 women he manipulates at any given time. He is only concerned with wealth, power, influence and social climbing. Last year, I could take no more when he verbally attacked someone I love. I quit seeing him and essentially cut him off. His last words to me were, “It’s too bad we can’t still be friends, because you taught me what brotherly love was.” He had no clue about my “mission.” I have since forgiven him (forgiveness being key to unconditional love) and we have mended. He still drives me crazy with his shallow loveless approach to life, but I still love him and will continue to serve as an example. After we reunited, I did notice more softness to him, so perhaps Idid have an affect on him. I don’t feel what I’m doing will “save the world,” rather, it is my contribution toward a more perfect balance on Earth.
March 1st, 2006 at 9:31 pm
I accidentally fell into this website and am intrigued by your question. Healing. Self, others, whatever. I feel that we are all so traumatized by reality, past and present and the fear of it in the future, that all we are doing is trying to keep our heads above water and find meaningful connections with other people, even briefly, long term, short term, even just meeting someone’s eyes in a few instants. I’ve just been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease, I’m 53 and feel like I fell into A dark HOLE AND i AM NOW CRAWLING BACK TO SEE WHAT, IF ANYTHING MATTERS. i THINK IT’S ALL VERY small stuff that we do on a daily basis (or not, if we are too afraid). Little tiny impacts on those whose lives we touch in some way. Mission:how to be in reality and not be scared to death to feel it. To ask for help. To give help. To join hands, to heal.
March 1st, 2006 at 10:31 pm
Wow, great question/update. It’s also highly relevant to what’s going on with me in my life right now. Fact is, I feel I’m going to finally fulfill my destiny/realize my soul-purpose very soon. This May, actually. I’ve had this strong longing and desire to do a very specific thing on earth for about eleven years now, sorta like my own personal Mecca. And though I took steps to complete my life’s mission about seven years ago, I hesitated and stopped myself from doing what I knew I must. But now I’m going to actually do it, fear be damned, and I’m more ecstatic about this than anything else pretty much ever. And no matter what happens, I’m completely thankful for having this passion in my life and knowing why it is I’m here at this time.
March 1st, 2006 at 11:59 pm
I think the suspicion a lot of people have towards the idea of purpose, to life or to anything, is the the implication that it might be an imposed purpose, and by extension, might be imposed on others.
as well, I think there is a well justified suspicion toward anyone who cliams to know their purpose in full. it’s kind of like saying you’re a full-realised being. you might as well be dead or a robot of some kind. no more room for growth or discovery.
I’ve taken it for granted for almost my whole life that i do have a purpose, and I feel sure I’ll spend the rest of my life uncovering it fully. to be alive is to be growing, and to have meaning is to be alive.
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:45 am
Maybe being alive is a purpose all it’s own.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:30 am
When I had my ’save the world’ moment, I did not think, wow aint I special. Instead I thought, I am just like other people (ignorant)and yet they must have this impression also, and still the world is clearly a f-ed up place. Six billion people,(and more throughout history) all with the impulse that they can make the whole world be ‘right’. What are we? Do we think we are Gods? If this impulse is legitimate then the implication is that reality will provide if we can only relate to it correctly. My conclusion then was that ‘Truth’ had found a very good hiding place because our beliefs provide that space where shallow conceptual structures can mascrade as Truth.
The missapprehension of the “I can save the world’ impulse comes from the ‘I’. In truth, the ‘I’ does not create the world expression, rather the world expression forms the ‘I’, or there is no inherent autonomis ‘I’ and we create each other.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:37 am
Sorry, I still have not gotton the hang of this computer stuff.
When I had my ’save the world’ moment, I did not think, wow aint I special. Instead I thought, I am just like other people (ignorant), so they probably have this impression also, and still the world is clearly an f-ed up place. Six billion people, (and more throughout history) all with the impulse that they can make the whole world be ‘right’. What are we? Do we think we are Gods? If this impulse is legitimate then the implication is that reality will provide if we can only relate to it correctly. My conclusion then was that ‘Truth’ had found a very good hiding place because our beliefs provide that space where shallow conceptual structures can masquerade as Truth.
The misapprehension of the “I can save the world’ impulse comes from the ‘I’. In truth, the ‘I’ does not create the world expression, rather the world expression forms the ‘I’, or there is no inherent autonomies ‘I’ and we create each other.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:43 am
Thats autonomous, sorry, ok, I’m going back to school now.
March 2nd, 2006 at 9:45 am
Then how does the Great Architect/God/Allah/the Universe/plug-in-whatever-name-you-want, sort out those who have done well from those who sucked and wasted the time given to them?
A bit too easy, sitting around for 75 years, doing nothing out of life than munching on Frito-Lays, whatching Oprah until death comes reaping souls out, and somehow it would be fullfilling one’s mission just the same as, say, what the Gandhis or Mother Teresas did…
Pretty insulting for those I’d say and not very motivating.
I guess whoever designed this world shouldn’t be surprised at the current state of affairs, to say the least!
March 2nd, 2006 at 12:46 pm
Now how can you honestly say that people who munch frito lays and watch Oprah are somehow less valuable than Gandhi without knowing each and every single one of those individuals? What if some Oprah-Watching-Frito-Muncher (OWFM for short) gave birth to a future doctor who saves ten thousand lives somehow? Or what if said OWFM realizes inner peace through the medium of Oprah and Fritos and their very act of self-knowledge and self-worth acts as a spiritual catalyst on a level we’re unable to perceive?
This whole idea that a great portion of the population are OWFMs is nonsense, IMHO. Every single person’s life has value and purpose, no matter how superior we think we are to them. This concept of the modern person as worthless is partiularly disturbing and counter-productive. Yeah, some people love to watch Oprah, and love to buy clothes and love to eat way too much. But the same people also love their families and pets and friends, feel sympathy for those in need, get scared when stuff happens that we don’t understand. *That’s* ultimately what’s important to each individual, not how many “souls they saved” or how enlightened they happen to be. And if the “Grand Architect” or whatever has a problem with this, then it’s got some serious issues ’cause it’s the thing that’s responsible.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:30 pm
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March 2nd, 2006 at 1:31 pm
@ JP
It all depends on the paradigm and myth-system you adhere to, and obviously mine is one wherein you sweat your way up to enlightenment, whatever that be. Of course, I don’t impose it on anybody, I am just giving another perspective (that many share by the way) in answer to Tim’s question.
However, from that paradigm:
I can’t say they are any less valuable because I am not the one attaching the value. I believe, that at some point, somehow, we will all have to account for the time we spent in here, and whoever does that eveluation will ask: Now, Dude, show me your bottom line!
Then saying that one
simply won’t cut it. IMHO. Too cheesy, new-agy, everybody is happy, every gets in the party in the end, everybody graduates with an A, they all married and were happy ever after. I can’t see a point in a system where everybody “gets in”. Everybody can do that, one has to surpass oneself.
And you, at some level think just like me as in:
Why would that be an acheivement of yours? It’s not, you just gave birth, like millions of people do everyday. The saving of lifes will go on the account of the kid alone. And why all the sudden mention the saving of lives if it doesn’t somehow “help you get there”.
I wouldn’t say the modern person themselves, put how that person spends their time in modern society. Otherwise there’s nothing to complain about current state of affairs… The world is just perfect.
Good for them, but that might not be enough for whatever awaits you on the other side.
We’ll all see when we get there. But for sure, free-will was given to us (yeah the only interesting piece of dogma I pulled out of christianity) for us to choose how we lead our lives. And we are free to do so. But at the end, somebody/something will evaluate.
It’s just one of the many options out there. Just as valid as saying there is nothing out there…
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:36 pm
I know it may be hard to accept - but it may just be the case, that life is perfect the way it is - with all its flaws and horrors.
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:44 pm
I can TOTALLY see the point in a system where everybody gets in. In fact, I can’t accept it any other way:
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/12/19/universalism-salvation/
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005...21/the-role-of-satan-in-universalism/
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Okay, I’ll bite: why? How is it better that some “get in” and some don’t? And, more importantly, what happens to those who don’t? Do they get reincarnated and have to try again? If so, does this process go on infinitely, or is there a point at which it stops? If not everyone gets in, do the ones who don’t go to some kind of “hell” or fade away? What’s wrong with everyone eventually “getting in”? How is this “system” of yours any better than “fundamentalist” Christianity which condemns the unsaved to an eternity of torment? If not everybody “gets in” to Paradise, then how is it Paradise?
Why? What’s the point to some hierarchical system in which we’re all eventually judged? Why the need to feel superior or elite? Where’s the compassion, the humility?
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:24 pm
@JP
It is not better. It just a way to evaluate those who got it (i.e. understood) from those who didn’t.
I believe that yes. They keep coming back until the get it.
Good question, I can’t answer right, but if I knew I would not be here arguing… Or maybe, that’s all I would do, spread the word!
The sexier answer I had so far was when reading Bernard Weber’s serie on the Thanatonautes. You kind of graduate and move on to another level. Like becoming a guardian to somebody, or being a prophet, coming back on a higher level to help others, which is why I said before that step 1 should a me/myself/I period, the helping others comes after… Sounds cheesy, but the idea seduces me. Nice books anyways.
Nope, they get plugged in right back in the circuit.
Eventually everybody should. That’s the point actually. But not all right away, not all of us one shot, just like that because one feels good about oneself, and certainly not by sitting around on one’s ass.
I guess it is all about motivation, which I think is the real reason behind the whold hell and devil thing. It’s just too unfair for those who made efforts that the lazy ones should get in at the same time. Nope. One should have to deserve to get in.
Because there is no eternity of torment, whatever that be. You keep coming back, that’s all. A bit like video games: you die, you keep coming back to the beginning of level X until you finally beat the boss and get to level Y. (getting cheesier and cheesier I know!!)
It’s not good or bad, you just missed it.
No idea, because in that system there is no paradise. And everybody willing to move their asses should get in. But you have to move it.
Good question. I guess it is the paradigm that made the most sense so far. How else would you want it organised?
There is no elite or superiority in essence. Everybody can. It is about actually moving one’s ass. There is motivation and Will(in the most hermetic meaning of it) to achieve vs. laziness and feely-goody about sub-par performance.
Irrelevant. I guess I leave it to those who wait for things to happen to them.
@ Tim
Yes man, it is VERY hard to accept. I see your point but I don’t think so. Then we could just die right away. There is not place for improvement.
Eventually everybody should, and everybody has the most absolute right to get in. But not for free. You got to freakin do something in exchange.
Yo, guys, Is is so unfair to ask for some payment at the door?
What other system do you guys see then?
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:51 pm
We *could* just die right away - hence babies, etc. There’s no need for improvement, at least not metaphysically. The purpose of self-improvement is taken off from some kind of universal spiritual need onto the level of personal choice. You become better because you want to be, not because somebody’s forcing you to be. Free will - remember?
Why? God isn’t a bank. Just because certain cultural transactions happen that way doesn’t mean that we have to follow that analogy ad infinitum.
See those links I added in above…
March 2nd, 2006 at 3:54 pm
More to the point, I think we can agree that none of us definitely knows what the answer is. And there is a good chance that it’s either unknowable, inexpressible or both. All we have is analogies, and all we can do with them is explore their effects on us and our thinking, rather than their ultimate transcendent truthfulness. That is the background which I myself am bringing to this discussion.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:18 pm
Totally agree, and some system is better than none.
Why not? I think it is, on some level.
Absolutely. And then, it’s by free-will that OWFM shall keeping recycling in the plumbing.
So far this sytem has made the most sense to me so far. I will check out you links tonight.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:20 pm
Irrelevant. I guess I leave it to those who wait for things to happen to them.
Why has so much value been placed on them within spiritual traditions, then? I mean, correct me if I’m wrong, but you seem to be describing a pretty Buddhist viewpoint, here. But, it’s like some weird Neitzschian Buddhism.
In a way oversimplistic summary? We’re all a plurality of a single objective Being which has divided into fragments in order to experience itself. The Being’s fragmented nature creates an illusion we call ’seperateness’ when actually there is only one single experience occuring at any given moment from the perspective of the Being itself. Once we ‘die,’ we re-incarnate at any point in the universe’s ’space time’ as a different expression of the same Being which then collects that particular expression’s experiences.
Once the Being’s consciousness has manifested in all of its possible permutations and realized it has done so within each one, it will Know Itself on a Macrocosmic scale in the same way that wise individuals have counseled us to do on a microcosmic level. This entire process occurs on a level that transcends what we refer to as space/time, and can be said to have already happened in a single, instantaneous moment of infinite expression.
Compassion is the most valuable aspect of interaction between the Being’s individual expressions, as compassion allows the individual expressions of the Being to value the experiences of its other manifestations. Mistreating or devaluing another individual is like jabbing needle’s in one’s own eye; what you do unto others, you eventually do unto your “self” within a different moment of manifestation.
Or something like that, anyhow.
March 2nd, 2006 at 4:40 pm
I disagree fervently. Why isn’t no system better than some system - especially if it’s potentially wrong?
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:27 pm
Lots of Traditions put heavy value on things I do not agree with or don’t care about and not everything is good in every tradition out there. That’s why we are here sorting out what makes or does not make sense.
Not that I am ruthless. I also beleive in compassion. It’s just that I beleive merits beats compassion as a key element to getting there, and compassion may well probably be a crucial part of the deserving it, but only a portion, the whole thing still being sweating-it-out based.
This system is mine. By that I mean that I saw things this way long before I started getting seriously involved into spiritual matters.
I never actually studied Buddhism so I can’t tell if my system looks like it. I got deterred by some who told me not to get into that until I had *serious* time to study throughoutly. Never happened. High-fly occultism was more sexy being younger then.
The Neitzschian aspect comes from my education I think: cartesian atheist daddy with faith in hard work as key to success in everything.
I am not into “super” human beings as a result of superiory by birth or genes. I just beleive some people decide to and do raise above the masses as results of their behaviour, thoughts and deeds. Power to them.
March 2nd, 2006 at 5:48 pm
:)
Would have surprised me if you did agree.
Simply because I could not do without a system. Ever saw the Blair witch Project?
My system is like that map the guy tossed.
Don’t know if it works, if it corresponds, if it is accurate, but it feels good, I feel safe having it. I am like the girl in the movie. That map might have been total bullshit, but I need something, and that’s the best so far. Give me a better map and watch me jump on it! Note that in the movie the guywho tosses the map doesn’t actually come up with a system that’s better…
Now the greater Truth out there, I don’t know, but neither do you, so I feel my map is better than nothing.
My feelings towrs those who do without ANY map is ambivalent: there are either brave souls or irresponsible fools, maybe they are bullshitting me because they actually have a system but don’t want to say it… Maybe they think their system is plenty of flaws and other will think is cheesy so they are ashamed of it, Maybe their system is better and they want to keep it to themselves, maybe they know something I don’t… Maybe like the gamers they found the codes to something hot and keep it to themselves, maybe they already found it and came back to help others (are you the one, Timmy?)… maybe, maybe, maybe.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:40 pm
@JP
Your system and my system are not that different. Yours has different tests, or rather no test at all as one has to experience every possible state in the “Matrix” of possibilities (or so I understand).
I like the fact/illusion that in mine I may skip those less interesting (the boring ones) re-incarnations by doing well in some of the stages.
Also, another difference, I see the process as individual. While you’re in your current shape, you do have access to the Source (Collective files/Akashic/whatever) but you are a separate entity while that happens. Those with good abilities to access the Source are those who are closer to rejoining the Source for the last time. When you die you go back to the Source which, based on your karmic bottom line reassigns you somewhere else to learn new things.
Anyways, at the end, we all go back to the Source, just the same.
How does the whole occult thing fits into your system? I see it as tools to tap in the knowledge in the Source files…
I hope it does not sound too X-files-ish.
March 2nd, 2006 at 6:46 pm
It seems to me that because the elite do more to shape the common expressions of consciousness, they bear more responsibility for the outcomes. For this reason, and others, I refrain from judging people for a wide range of expressions of ignorance.
March 2nd, 2006 at 7:37 pm
There’s that old Jung quote too:
March 3rd, 2006 at 11:10 pm
In the Douglas Addams Hitchhickers Guide to the Universe, the creators last message was “Sorry for the inconvenience”, the only real response for dealing with this was for Arthur Dent to go mad.