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	<title>Comments on: The Holy Spirit: Signal to Noise</title>
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		<title>By: Days of Future Past&#8230; - Pop Occulture</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/05/03/the-holy-spirit-signal-to-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-17068</link>
		<dc:creator>Days of Future Past&#8230; - Pop Occulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 18:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If that&#8217;s the case, how does evolution take place, if at all? Does the ability exist to alter the recording each time it is played? Is there a way to break through to tinker with the implicate source, the signal at the beginning of time? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If that&#8217;s the case, how does evolution take place, if at all? Does the ability exist to alter the recording each time it is played? Is there a way to break through to tinker with the implicate source, the signal at the beginning of time? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Conlon</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/05/03/the-holy-spirit-signal-to-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-12651</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Conlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 23:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess after a little further thought -  there must be a form 0 or something because I am just getting a 'samsara' vibe off this whole thing, union with the divine is not covered under volition or the flesh - perhaps that is the link - type i is not there without type ii maybe jesus was just showing us the way to 'leave it all behind'

but why would we be indoctrinated to eat a morsel of his flesh

sounds stupid but there's something to it

"wheels within wheels"
-rush</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess after a little further thought -  there must be a form 0 or something because I am just getting a &#8217;samsara&#8217; vibe off this whole thing, union with the divine is not covered under volition or the flesh - perhaps that is the link - type i is not there without type ii maybe jesus was just showing us the way to &#8216;leave it all behind&#8217;</p>
<p>but why would we be indoctrinated to eat a morsel of his flesh</p>
<p>sounds stupid but there&#8217;s something to it</p>
<p>&#8220;wheels within wheels&#8221;<br />
-rush</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Conlon</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/05/03/the-holy-spirit-signal-to-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-12649</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Conlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 23:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know I'm getting a little confused - logos - and yeah Biographia Literaria is my main source for that trip - is the pure "sin-free" essence of existence - rightmindfulness, eh?

So Eve exerted free will - the first thelemite, right?  And we are bound to eternal death unless we receive Jesus?  

Sounds like the ultimate setup.

I cannot reconcile between your Type I (free wil model) and Type II (Freudian {sub&#124;un}conscious) model dragging us back.  That does not work I am just like shaking my head right now thinking of this all.

I can see one before the other but not as a system with logos thrown in.

In relation to the s/n model I can see human freewil as noise to the divine (hopes? aspirations?) for humanity...

"they live that I might die"
-BOC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know I&#8217;m getting a little confused - logos - and yeah Biographia Literaria is my main source for that trip - is the pure &#8220;sin-free&#8221; essence of existence - rightmindfulness, eh?</p>
<p>So Eve exerted free will - the first thelemite, right?  And we are bound to eternal death unless we receive Jesus?  </p>
<p>Sounds like the ultimate setup.</p>
<p>I cannot reconcile between your Type I (free wil model) and Type II (Freudian {sub|un}conscious) model dragging us back.  That does not work I am just like shaking my head right now thinking of this all.</p>
<p>I can see one before the other but not as a system with logos thrown in.</p>
<p>In relation to the s/n model I can see human freewil as noise to the divine (hopes? aspirations?) for humanity&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;they live that I might die&#8221;<br />
-BOC</p>
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		<title>By: The Din of Sin - Pop Occulture</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/05/03/the-holy-spirit-signal-to-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-12630</link>
		<dc:creator>The Din of Sin - Pop Occulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 07:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One other thought I&#8217;d like to add on to our recent discussion of the Holy Spirit as the original pure source - and that is, sin. Sin is one of those parts of Christianity that non-Christians tend to balk at. People seem to see the concept of sin as this sort ethical slavery, passed down from generations whose world and experience of it were vastly different from ours. While that may be a legitimate way of thinking about it (or maybe not, I don&#8217;t know), what happens if we apply this signal to noise idea that we&#8217;ve been working with tonight? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One other thought I&#8217;d like to add on to our recent discussion of the Holy Spirit as the original pure source - and that is, sin. Sin is one of those parts of Christianity that non-Christians tend to balk at. People seem to see the concept of sin as this sort ethical slavery, passed down from generations whose world and experience of it were vastly different from ours. While that may be a legitimate way of thinking about it (or maybe not, I don&#8217;t know), what happens if we apply this signal to noise idea that we&#8217;ve been working with tonight? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JR.</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/05/03/the-holy-spirit-signal-to-noise/comment-page-1/#comment-12627</link>
		<dc:creator>JR.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 05:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.	JR. Says: 
January 20th, 2006 at 1:19 am 
&lt;strong&gt;The Occult:&lt;/strong&gt; A falling away from the truth and light adhered to by followers who seek â€œenlightenmentâ€ through esoteric knowledge, which inevitably brings them towards pale gnostism and a constant persistent failure to understand the real truth of Jesus Christâ€¦. The pinnacle of these defeatist efforts lie in their shallow esoteric knowledge of the Gnostic gospels, i.e. gospel of thomas, magdalene, etcâ€¦ However the Occultist is fundamentally lacking in any and all basic knowledge of the truth, therefore they are forever doomed in the quagmire of trying to understand the esoteric teachings, but never really being able to comprehend the substance and divine spark that gave those teachings original life and meaningâ€¦</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.	JR. Says:<br />
January 20th, 2006 at 1:19 am<br />
<strong>The Occult:</strong> A falling away from the truth and light adhered to by followers who seek â€œenlightenmentâ€ through esoteric knowledge, which inevitably brings them towards pale gnostism and a constant persistent failure to understand the real truth of Jesus Christâ€¦. The pinnacle of these defeatist efforts lie in their shallow esoteric knowledge of the Gnostic gospels, i.e. gospel of thomas, magdalene, etcâ€¦ However the Occultist is fundamentally lacking in any and all basic knowledge of the truth, therefore they are forever doomed in the quagmire of trying to understand the esoteric teachings, but never really being able to comprehend the substance and divine spark that gave those teachings original life and meaningâ€¦</p>
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