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Here’s a passage from Alan Watt’s, The Wisdom of Insecurity which has really got my head spinning. Or maybe it’s the whole book that’s doing it. His whole argument seems to be that there’s nothing that exists (literally, not metaphorically) besides the present moment, and that we must try to live in that moment as much as possible. I’m still wrapping my head around the whole thing and have a bunch of other things I want to correlate this with, but I think this passage is a real kicker, from page 83:

Can you, at the same time, read this sentence and think about yourself reading it? You will find that, to think about yourself reading it, you must for a brief second stop reading. The first experience is reading. The second experience is the thought, “I am reading.” Can you find any thinker, who is thinking the thought, “I am reading?” In other words, when present experience is the thought, “I am reading,” can you think about yourself thinking this thought?

Once again, you must stop thinking just, “I am reading.” You pass into a third experience, which is the thought, “I am thinking that I am reading.” Do not let the rapidity with which these thoughts can change deceive you into the feeling that you think them all at once.

But what has happened? Never at any time were you able to separate yourself from your present thought, or your present experience. The first present experience was reading. When you tried to think about yourself reading, the experience changed, and the next present experience was the thought, “I am reading.” You could not separate yourself from this experience without passing on to another. It was “ring around the rosy.” When you were thinking, “I am reading this sentence, you were not reading it. In other words, in each present experience you were only aware of that experience. You were never aware of being aware. You were never able to separate the thinker from the thought, the knower from the known. All you ever found was a new thought, a new experience.

To be aware, then, is to be aware of thoughts, feelings, sensations, desires and all other forms of experience. Never at any time are you aware of anything which is not experience, not a thought or feeling, but instead an experiencer, thinker or feeler. If this is so, what makes us think any such thing exists.

Where he is taking all that is essentially that no such thing as the “mind” exists apart from experience. To try to retreat from experience into the mind just triggers a chain of different successive experiences. It all sounds sort of convoluted when you isolate out this passage, but I’m really intrigued by the book as a whole. It’s a quick read too, so it’s a nice thing to just read all at once and let it sort of percolate down through you.

This topic also calls to mind a bit that Daniel Pinchbeck said in my interview with him of last year:

Steiner noted that the thought that there is a material world separate from a conceptual world within our own minds was, in itself, only a thought, and therefore had no more essential substance or validity than any other thought we might like to hold.

Anyway, more on this in the near future. I have some other quotes from Alan Watts that I’d like to share, as well as some related items from R.D. Laing as well. And I think it would be fun to contrast these ideas of “no mind” to other ideas such as metaprogramming. Stay tuned!







3 Reader Responses

  1. alistair Says:

    the real joy of alan watts is in hearing him speak. his audio is available around the web. he told a story of being accosted in an airport by a guru who wanted to know where he got his authority from and alan asked him who he thought taught buddha.
    then he laughed.

  2. Kylark Says:

    To try to retreat from experience into the mind just triggers a chain of different successive experiences.

    Some of those experiences can be a lot of fun, too. My own mind is like a playground. Unfortunately, some of this time spent in the “reality” of thoughts takes away from time spent in the “reality” of the “real world.” You have to balance the two, otherwise when you come back down to the real world it smacks you hard in the face.

    Also, you have to spend time in the real world to gather material for thoughts and dreams. Otherwise you chase your own trail down an endless spiral of symbol-systems.

    Having said that, I do like Watts’s premise of living in the now all the time. It’s very Buddhist. It’s hard to get that concept to coexist with the Western way of doing things, which is very narrative. E.g, I am the way I am because of the past, which constrains who I am now, and incidentally in this now I’d better do a, b, and c to become who I want to be in the future.

    Moment-by-moment existence is rapturous. It is also, I believe, mainly reserved for those beings without “narrative” conscsiousness. To live that way all the time is the way of wild animals.

    I don’t know if you saw the latest quote on my blog, from The Mystical Qabalah about perfection and attainment, and how the Universe gives you as many chances as you need to get it right. There’s a notion of refining a pure self which seems completely at odds with Watt’s notion that there is no “self.” Both are equally appealing to me, and I’m kind of in a spin as to which one to adopt. The thing I liked about the idea from the Mystical Qabalah is that it made me think of infinite time in which to play in, toying with the strings of narrative until you are utterly satisfied and ready to go home. Watts’s idea of time is eternal rather than infinite, and states that “here,” “now,” is the only home we have.

    I’m glad you’re reading that book! I liked it a lot. I’m hoping to get my hands on “The Book” next.*

    *The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are by Alan Watts.

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