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		<title>By: Rev max</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/06/04/fight-club-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-17297</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 04:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Null

There's no dim mak in Krav, its basically just a cross between western boxing and wrestling, MMA style.  No pressure points beyond the obvious, like if someone has you in a bear hug, put one hand on their chin, grap the back of the head by the hair  with the other and give'em a neck crank ... simple mechanics

 yeah in sparring we tap out on the mat and wear gloves and teeth guards and groin cups when striking, other than that its about 50% force... your head gets hit a lot, hard, so its real, you get banged up.

girls do krav too,  same-sex groundfighting though, no girl wants some dude's sweaty ass in her face

yeah brazilian jiu jitsu they gracie brothers single handedly revolutionized that style, amazing shit, krav teachers always say never &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; go the ground with someone who plays BJJ if you can avoid it!!!! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Null</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no dim mak in Krav, its basically just a cross between western boxing and wrestling, MMA style.  No pressure points beyond the obvious, like if someone has you in a bear hug, put one hand on their chin, grap the back of the head by the hair  with the other and give&#8217;em a neck crank &#8230; simple mechanics</p>
<p> yeah in sparring we tap out on the mat and wear gloves and teeth guards and groin cups when striking, other than that its about 50% force&#8230; your head gets hit a lot, hard, so its real, you get banged up.</p>
<p>girls do krav too,  same-sex groundfighting though, no girl wants some dude&#8217;s sweaty ass in her face</p>
<p>yeah brazilian jiu jitsu they gracie brothers single handedly revolutionized that style, amazing shit, krav teachers always say never <em>ever</em> go the ground with someone who plays BJJ if you can avoid it!!!! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: channel null</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/06/04/fight-club-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-17216</link>
		<dc:creator>channel null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veering way off topic, thanks for the shout-out to Krav Maga, Max. If I ever get time and room on my list, i'm looking into it. It's all about how you train. Do you go live or not? Can you go live? If your sensei only teaches you secret death-touches no one has ever used, ineffective hand-to-throat air-chokes, and groin pulls, no. If on the other hand you study techs designed to disable and opponent and use full-force boxing drills, rather than "overload their chi! Dim Mak!" crap, you can go live every goddamn night. You just look like shit afterwards, and have to explain why you have rope burn across your face at work. And women love the cauliflower ears (knocks on wood).

The only problem with this is that there are no girls in the class, which is good because I don't like hurting them. But I remember being in Rio, walking up the stairs to the fourth floor of the gym to train, and I'd see a capoeira class full of gorgeous women... then I walk up to the next floor, and it's all tattoo'd chests and biceps.

&lt;blockquote&gt;the name of the game is disable and flee ASAP&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Preach it, brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veering way off topic, thanks for the shout-out to Krav Maga, Max. If I ever get time and room on my list, i&#8217;m looking into it. It&#8217;s all about how you train. Do you go live or not? Can you go live? If your sensei only teaches you secret death-touches no one has ever used, ineffective hand-to-throat air-chokes, and groin pulls, no. If on the other hand you study techs designed to disable and opponent and use full-force boxing drills, rather than &#8220;overload their chi! Dim Mak!&#8221; crap, you can go live every goddamn night. You just look like shit afterwards, and have to explain why you have rope burn across your face at work. And women love the cauliflower ears (knocks on wood).</p>
<p>The only problem with this is that there are no girls in the class, which is good because I don&#8217;t like hurting them. But I remember being in Rio, walking up the stairs to the fourth floor of the gym to train, and I&#8217;d see a capoeira class full of gorgeous women&#8230; then I walk up to the next floor, and it&#8217;s all tattoo&#8217;d chests and biceps.</p>
<blockquote><p>the name of the game is disable and flee ASAP</p></blockquote>
<p>Preach it, brother!</p>
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		<title>By: Rev Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 17:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;â€™m curious if anybody else out there reading this has been or is involved with a group like this, or has heard of any through friends.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Its called &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga" rel="nofollow"&gt;KRAV MAGA&lt;/a&gt;

or more generically WWII combatives, Close quarter combat training, etc. Of course I like my own system the most, but...

The way people practice military combat systems is differnet from the way people train in karate, except for jiu jitsu and muy thai it seems like the way most MA instruction is structured people don't really go for it and so there is zero risk of cracked ribs, knocked out teeth etc. and thus no chance to feel the adrenaline rush and learn what actual fighting is like

which is short and nasty with no rules, the name of the game is disable and flee ASAP, not score points!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>â€™m curious if anybody else out there reading this has been or is involved with a group like this, or has heard of any through friends.</p></blockquote>
<p>Its called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga" rel="nofollow">KRAV MAGA</a></p>
<p>or more generically WWII combatives, Close quarter combat training, etc. Of course I like my own system the most, but&#8230;</p>
<p>The way people practice military combat systems is differnet from the way people train in karate, except for jiu jitsu and muy thai it seems like the way most MA instruction is structured people don&#8217;t really go for it and so there is zero risk of cracked ribs, knocked out teeth etc. and thus no chance to feel the adrenaline rush and learn what actual fighting is like</p>
<p>which is short and nasty with no rules, the name of the game is disable and flee ASAP, not score points!</p>
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		<title>By: channel null</title>
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		<dc:creator>channel null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far a "fight clubs," as someone who's done jiu-jitsu, muay thai, and wrestling, I have to ask, "what's the point?" It's just not that shocking; when you've actually been knocked out from a kick to the solar plexus, it seems kind of amatuer. I would probably still be spending time on the mat if I didn't work so much.

Regarding sex and violence, I was thinking, you know how Ken Wilber calls it "skin hunger?" I suspect that we also have the urge for "blood hunger," though it's not as potent a drive in most.

And yes, those professors need to get de-brainwashed, preferably by a judo instructor with mad ugly cauliflower ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far a &#8220;fight clubs,&#8221; as someone who&#8217;s done jiu-jitsu, muay thai, and wrestling, I have to ask, &#8220;what&#8217;s the point?&#8221; It&#8217;s just not that shocking; when you&#8217;ve actually been knocked out from a kick to the solar plexus, it seems kind of amatuer. I would probably still be spending time on the mat if I didn&#8217;t work so much.</p>
<p>Regarding sex and violence, I was thinking, you know how Ken Wilber calls it &#8220;skin hunger?&#8221; I suspect that we also have the urge for &#8220;blood hunger,&#8221; though it&#8217;s not as potent a drive in most.</p>
<p>And yes, those professors need to get de-brainwashed, preferably by a judo instructor with mad ugly cauliflower ears.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah!  I'd love to join in on THAT fight.  These pseudo-scientific professors really don't bother me though.  Their assumptions about humanity are as frivolous as they are rampant.  I would, however, love to create a fight club . . .and I've often put forth the idea with my friends and acquaintances, none of whom seem too keen on the idea.  I guess it destroys a comfort zone that few people are willing to let go of. . .but I love the concept of there being a physical outlet for my natural aggression that a lot of people could engage in and enjoy on some level.

And sex doesn't count, because it's much easier to get into a fight with a stranger than it is to have sex with one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah!  I&#8217;d love to join in on THAT fight.  These pseudo-scientific professors really don&#8217;t bother me though.  Their assumptions about humanity are as frivolous as they are rampant.  I would, however, love to create a fight club . . .and I&#8217;ve often put forth the idea with my friends and acquaintances, none of whom seem too keen on the idea.  I guess it destroys a comfort zone that few people are willing to let go of. . .but I love the concept of there being a physical outlet for my natural aggression that a lot of people could engage in and enjoy on some level.</p>
<p>And sex doesn&#8217;t count, because it&#8217;s much easier to get into a fight with a stranger than it is to have sex with one.</p>
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