http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_J._Watson

Thomas John Watson, Sr. (February 17, 1874 – June 19, 1956) is considered to be the founder of International Business Machines (IBM). He was one of the richest men of his time and called the world’s greatest salesman when he died.

I know it’s not the case for all world-born men of power, but really, his quotes are inspirational — perhaps even drawing from the common sense of metamorphosis and self-worth that so many apparent spiritual systems claim as rudimentary. I’d join his team anyday.

And if I was a hardened conspiricy theorist, I wouldn’t want those occult schmucks undermining what I am trying to prove with their hoodoo voodoo magic crap. Cuz that stuff is such a joke, it’s not based in fact, in verifiable proof!

But, on the other hand, if I were an occultist, I wouldn’t want those black & white theories of conspiricy trying to objectify the postmodern world of malleable meanings and intentions. Even if one man manipulates certain circumstances, I acknowledge s/he as part of a larger story emerging. One which that conspirist (as well as conspiricy hunter) are all part of, beyond their egos, and I enjoy sitting back to watch with a quiet chuckle.

We need the ego in order to interact with our communities, peers, and families. But if they would get their heads out of their asses and admit there is no such thing as Right and Wrong, no Good nor Evil, then the bias they place on symbolism could be lifted. Because if it’s all a game, between the people and the conspirists, then the conspirists must surely be winning. Or are they?

The conspiracy hunter seeks to prove that the details they stumble upon mean something, and they forge a story out of their own understandings. Usually stories of power and control. They fear control so much, I fear for their sake it reflects a lack of control over their own lives which they must justify through this mythology they actively create (and justify, in their minds).

Yet, even if there were secret apple cults controlling the world from their draconian HQs beneath Fort Knox, think of the lives they lead…

No, not what you might expect: One might think back to “The Prince,” maybe. Or to media portrayals of the rich and famous, yachts, gold, Brooks Brothers and Paris Hilton. Or do we picture the hooded figures from Behomian Grove, dancing like geeks around an effigy of a giant owl?

I mean, really. Plenty of these guys are geeks. Give Rev Max some boxing gloves and a bottle of whisky. Hand me and Channel Null some bats. They’re spoon-fed, silver platter, ivy league faggos.

In all fairness, you have highly-educated individuals with decades worth of experience in business, social politics, charity, etiquette, and art. Sure, maybe a bit more pompous than the rest of us, but really, they have to be. They are symbols to us. And this is what I find interesting.

That is a great quote from Jung, thank you for sharing it, Tim. And in a way, these people have become icons and symbols to the lowly dredges of society to obsessed with justifying their own demons that they personify their paranoias unto those they don’t know, unto a lifestyle so freakin’ alien to them, that it couldn’t possibly be anything but what they believe it to be. How egotistical do these asses need to be to believe they have the world figured out!

And in fact, the rules of the universe do so. Humanity requires order to accomplish what it has. Without the leaders (both visible and invisible), chaos would ensue. If anyone has attended a hockey/ football/ soccer game during important matches, you know what it’s like to see people reduce themselves to mere shadows of their ordered, mundane daily-selves.

Do we really deserve to be in these positions of power, of control? Fuck no. I don’t have the proper upbringing to be a cold-ass cocksucker. To make business and politicial decisions that might alienate me from my family, that could possible devestate entire regions, but I must. Someone has to.

It comes down to responsibility. And most members of the fringe subcultures don’t have a fucking clue what responsibility is, though they might believe in the delusion that they are in fact on some great path.

And yes, many of the rich and powerful are so far removed, that often “new money” make brash decisions and can cause minor ripples in the way of things. But there is always a larger picture, and sacrifices must inevitably be made to sustain a way of things.

Symbols can be interpreted so many different ways, and if you make an enemy of something or someone, you deny yourself the experiences that those symbols offer. You condemn yourself to one side of the tracks, always afraid that if you were in their position you’d do the same as them.

And if that’s the case, who then is the real evil?

Do they not realise that the very conspiracy they hunt creates the very justification for their entire being. Without the conspiracy, who or what would they then be.

The power of symbols is that they establish the stories we live out. Being totally open to the symbols allows us to be open to stories, and perhaps being both conspiracy hunter and conspirist simultaneously, mastering both worlds.

Which is what initiation is all about, different ontologies of symbols.

Which seems to be what the conspirists have a mastery over (Freemasons, anyone). And if that’s the case, they live in a very different, mastered, experiential world than the average dirty monkey human.

So, I say, congratulations to the Masters of the Universe. You’ve worked hard to establish this order we all share, and I got better things to do.

“Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believing as we already do.” — James Harvey Robinson

Any ideas on how to communicate with people about these subjects?

Dude, u should start an interactive discussion blog.