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		<title>By: Jennifer Emick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Emick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 01:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More advice: if you have any of those "high energy" types hanging about, get far away from them when you trip...and wear layers.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More advice: if you have any of those &#8220;high energy&#8221; types hanging about, get far away from them when you trip&#8230;and wear layers.  <img src='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rev Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'll tell you what though, don't mix mushrooms with speed unless you want to see yaldabaoth and his soul-sucking minions in all their gruesome glory &lt;em&gt;(shudder)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll tell you what though, don&#8217;t mix mushrooms with speed unless you want to see yaldabaoth and his soul-sucking minions in all their gruesome glory <em>(shudder)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Rev Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really? 

I found that the extraterrestrial plant teachers like corona and a little loco weed just fine ;-)

then again i don't take mushrooms anymore - learned what i needed to and then stopped i suppose

they aren't for fun, even though they &lt;em&gt;are &lt;/em&gt;fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really? </p>
<p>I found that the extraterrestrial plant teachers like corona and a little loco weed just fine <img src='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>then again i don&#8217;t take mushrooms anymore - learned what i needed to and then stopped i suppose</p>
<p>they aren&#8217;t for fun, even though they <em>are </em>fun</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My advice to you Tim:  Have plenty of water with you and eat a Hershey's chocolate bar in the afterglow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My advice to you Tim:  Have plenty of water with you and eat a Hershey&#8217;s chocolate bar in the afterglow.</p>
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		<title>By: barbarahoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbarahoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please,please,please........DON'T call the character who offered to teach you to stop thinking...........it reminds me of something that happened to someone i knew,back in the early 70's.....perhaps what protects us(tatoos or other) are the things that we BELEVE protect us............. so,you want to party with a" fun guy"............get them from someone you trust........get the silly siben ones, and do a blessing on them before hand,asking for a good journey,and ask your spirit guides to protect you,and i found that the mushrooms don't like it if you mix them with alchohol or ganja............blessings.....bhc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please,please,please&#8230;&#8230;..DON&#8217;T call the character who offered to teach you to stop thinking&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..it reminds me of something that happened to someone i knew,back in the early 70&#8217;s&#8230;..perhaps what protects us(tatoos or other) are the things that we BELEVE protect us&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. so,you want to party with a&#8221; fun guy&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;get them from someone you trust&#8230;&#8230;..get the silly siben ones, and do a blessing on them before hand,asking for a good journey,and ask your spirit guides to protect you,and i found that the mushrooms don&#8217;t like it if you mix them with alchohol or ganja&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;blessings&#8230;..bhc</p>
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		<title>By: Ronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tim, 

Just remember Leary's old dictum, "set and setting." I know you're not talking about acid, but Leary's acid test has been dead on with almost every psychadelic experience I've ever had. Go into it with a relaxed, curious, "lets go for a little ride" mindset (set) and make sure you're in a place that you feel completely comfortable and safe (setting) and you'll have a great time.

Be good,

Ronin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tim, </p>
<p>Just remember Leary&#8217;s old dictum, &#8220;set and setting.&#8221; I know you&#8217;re not talking about acid, but Leary&#8217;s acid test has been dead on with almost every psychadelic experience I&#8217;ve ever had. Go into it with a relaxed, curious, &#8220;lets go for a little ride&#8221; mindset (set) and make sure you&#8217;re in a place that you feel completely comfortable and safe (setting) and you&#8217;ll have a great time.</p>
<p>Be good,</p>
<p>Ronin</p>
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		<title>By: Rev max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoo boy! Field research!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoo boy! Field research!</p>
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		<title>By: maximon</title>
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		<dc:creator>maximon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 01:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.shroomery.org is an incredible resource, if you haven't already been there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.shroomery.org" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.shroomery.org'>http://www.shroomery.org</a> is an incredible resource, if you haven&#8217;t already been there.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fatima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn'it good when you can get an on the spot, accurate reading, with none of the fluffiness that nowadays "readers" pass as skill...
Good luck on that endeavour. Keep us posted!
Just a note though: Santeria is NOT Yoruba, but cuban. Lukumi (the "real" name of that tradition) does derive from Yoruba traditions (It kind of branched out of Oyo, or so have I been told) but time and distance have taken their tolls as well as the need to adapt, survive and syncretise. Result is, the way things are done in Lukumi can be VERY different from the way thing are done in homeland.
The afro-based tradition that stayed the closest to the ways of the yoruba is Candomble in Brasil.
I am making this comment because there has been been a LOT of fighting over such issues, and the afro-derived religion field is full of such feuds, fights, and money sharks.

F.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;it good when you can get an on the spot, accurate reading, with none of the fluffiness that nowadays &#8220;readers&#8221; pass as skill&#8230;<br />
Good luck on that endeavour. Keep us posted!<br />
Just a note though: Santeria is NOT Yoruba, but cuban. Lukumi (the &#8220;real&#8221; name of that tradition) does derive from Yoruba traditions (It kind of branched out of Oyo, or so have I been told) but time and distance have taken their tolls as well as the need to adapt, survive and syncretise. Result is, the way things are done in Lukumi can be VERY different from the way thing are done in homeland.<br />
The afro-based tradition that stayed the closest to the ways of the yoruba is Candomble in Brasil.<br />
I am making this comment because there has been been a LOT of fighting over such issues, and the afro-derived religion field is full of such feuds, fights, and money sharks.</p>
<p>F.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gnome, I fixed your blockquotes

&lt;blockquote&gt;IIRC, youâ€™ve tried salvia? What about acid? I would like to say something here, but will wait until after you have tried them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, salvia I have tried. Not acide though. Please do share your comments cause its not going to ruin anything for me, dont worry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gnome, I fixed your blockquotes</p>
<blockquote><p>IIRC, youâ€™ve tried salvia? What about acid? I would like to say something here, but will wait until after you have tried them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, salvia I have tried. Not acide though. Please do share your comments cause its not going to ruin anything for me, dont worry.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnomely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnomely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, it looks like I messed up the quote thingy ma-jig. I don't want to get sued. No sir I do not. 
I did mushrooms once last year it was so much fun! I remember seeing the landscape from Alice in Wonderland and Tim Burton's Halloween landscape screw each other like two dogs- and voila! they created an instant baby which looked like a dirty piece of toilet paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, it looks like I messed up the quote thingy ma-jig. I don&#8217;t want to get sued. No sir I do not.<br />
I did mushrooms once last year it was so much fun! I remember seeing the landscape from Alice in Wonderland and Tim Burton&#8217;s Halloween landscape screw each other like two dogs- and voila! they created an instant baby which looked like a dirty piece of toilet paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnomely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnomely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting study on psilocybin

&lt;blockquote&gt;In 2006, a group of researchers from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine led by Roland R Griffiths conducted an experiment assessing the degree of mystical experience and attitudinal effects of the psilocybin experience; this report was published in the journal Psychopharmacology. Thirty volunteers without prior experience with hallucinogens were given psilocybin and methylphenidate (Ritalin) in separate sessions, the methylphenidate sessions serving as a control and active placebo; the tests were double-blind, with neither the subject nor the administrator knowing which drug was being administered. The degree of mystical experience was measured using a questionnaire on mystical experience developed by Ralph W Hood; 61% of subjects reported a "complete mystical experience" after their psilocybin session, while only 13% reported such an outcome after their experience with methylphenidate. Two months after taking psilocybin, 79% of the participants reported moderately to greatly increased life satisfaction and sense of well-being. About 36% of participants also had a strong to extreme â€œexperience of fearâ€ or dysphoria (eg, a â€œbad tripâ€) at some point during the psilocybin session (which was not reported by any subject during the methylphenidate session), with about one-third of these (13% of the total) reporting that this dysphoria dominated the entire session. These negative effects were reported to be easily managed by the researchers and did not have a lasting negative effect on the subjectâ€™s sense of well-being. 

Mental and physical tolerance to psilocybin builds and dissipates quickly. Taking psilocybin more than three or four times in a week (especially two days in a row) can result in diminished effects. Tolerance dissipates after a few days, so frequent users often keep doses spaced five to seven days apart to avoid the effect&lt;/blockquote&gt;  
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin#Effects</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting study on psilocybin</p>
<blockquote><p>In 2006, a group of researchers from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine led by Roland R Griffiths conducted an experiment assessing the degree of mystical experience and attitudinal effects of the psilocybin experience; this report was published in the journal Psychopharmacology. Thirty volunteers without prior experience with hallucinogens were given psilocybin and methylphenidate (Ritalin) in separate sessions, the methylphenidate sessions serving as a control and active placebo; the tests were double-blind, with neither the subject nor the administrator knowing which drug was being administered. The degree of mystical experience was measured using a questionnaire on mystical experience developed by Ralph W Hood; 61% of subjects reported a &#8220;complete mystical experience&#8221; after their psilocybin session, while only 13% reported such an outcome after their experience with methylphenidate. Two months after taking psilocybin, 79% of the participants reported moderately to greatly increased life satisfaction and sense of well-being. About 36% of participants also had a strong to extreme â€œexperience of fearâ€ or dysphoria (eg, a â€œbad tripâ€) at some point during the psilocybin session (which was not reported by any subject during the methylphenidate session), with about one-third of these (13% of the total) reporting that this dysphoria dominated the entire session. These negative effects were reported to be easily managed by the researchers and did not have a lasting negative effect on the subjectâ€™s sense of well-being. </p>
<p>Mental and physical tolerance to psilocybin builds and dissipates quickly. Taking psilocybin more than three or four times in a week (especially two days in a row) can result in diminished effects. Tolerance dissipates after a few days, so frequent users often keep doses spaced five to seven days apart to avoid the effect</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin#Effects" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin#Effects'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin#Effects</a></p>
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		<title>By: prunes</title>
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		<dc:creator>prunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He claims that he can teach me to voluntarily stop thinking via a simple 5 to 20 minute phone call and has offered to teach me this technique for free.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Who could pass that up?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™ve also made the decision that I am going to try mushrooms over the course of the next couple weeks. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
IIRC, you've tried salvia? What about acid? I would like to say something here, but will wait until after you have tried them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He claims that he can teach me to voluntarily stop thinking via a simple 5 to 20 minute phone call and has offered to teach me this technique for free.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who could pass that up?</p>
<blockquote><p>Iâ€™ve also made the decision that I am going to try mushrooms over the course of the next couple weeks. </p></blockquote>
<p>IIRC, you&#8217;ve tried salvia? What about acid? I would like to say something here, but will wait until after you have tried them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought of another good first-hand type project I might try and do. There is a big tattoo convention coming up next month in Seattle

http://www.seattletattooconvention.com/

I wonder if I can find tattoo artist(s) who do "magickal" tattooing. I saw this thing on the National Geographic channel recently about how Thai priests do magical tattoos which are supposed to protect the wearer from like bullets, knives, that sort of thing. Maybe I can find somebody who does that sort of thing and get one even. Who knows? I'll think about this some more. 

I've also made the decision that I am going to try mushrooms over the course of the next couple weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just thought of another good first-hand type project I might try and do. There is a big tattoo convention coming up next month in Seattle</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seattletattooconvention.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.seattletattooconvention.com/'>http://www.seattletattooconvention.com/</a></p>
<p>I wonder if I can find tattoo artist(s) who do &#8220;magickal&#8221; tattooing. I saw this thing on the National Geographic channel recently about how Thai priests do magical tattoos which are supposed to protect the wearer from like bullets, knives, that sort of thing. Maybe I can find somebody who does that sort of thing and get one even. Who knows? I&#8217;ll think about this some more. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also made the decision that I am going to try mushrooms over the course of the next couple weeks.</p>
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