Comments on: Velvet Propaganda http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:30:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: CIA Satanism & Pedophilia - Pop Occulture Blog http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-18827 CIA Satanism & Pedophilia - Pop Occulture Blog Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:54:11 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/#comment-18827 [...] Slap them all together and what do you get? You get a mythology (whether real or imagined) that cleverly hooks anti-government sentiment to the traditional Christian value system, and also to its more modern secular humanist offshoot. Each issue is also highly emotionally charged, layered with fascination and guilt, ensuring that none can be talked about with a cool head, nevermind all three of them joined together. It is, quite simply, a conceptual and emotional powerhouse - worthy of a master propagandist such as Edward Bernays (though I’m not suggesting he created it). [...] [...] Slap them all together and what do you get? You get a mythology (whether real or imagined) that cleverly hooks anti-government sentiment to the traditional Christian value system, and also to its more modern secular humanist offshoot. Each issue is also highly emotionally charged, layered with fascination and guilt, ensuring that none can be talked about with a cool head, nevermind all three of them joined together. It is, quite simply, a conceptual and emotional powerhouse - worthy of a master propagandist such as Edward Bernays (though I’m not suggesting he created it). [...]

]]> By: sketchmonkey http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-18696 sketchmonkey Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:49:06 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/#comment-18696 Tim, you sure do find some goodies while fishin’ the murky depths of the interweb! Thanks for the link; it should make for some very interesting reading. I've long been fascinated by the interrelationship between politics, propaganda/marketing, design, & the occult/magic... this PDF may add valuable additional insights. It never ceases to amaze me how <em>blatantly</em> governments & corporations go about their acts of manipulation. Even when presented with obvious falsehoods & clear evidence of manipulation, most people remain oblivious or, perhaps more accurately, <em>entranced</em> by the sociological prestigitation they are witness to. Perhaps it is the outrageous, flagrant nature of what they are witness to… or the fact that they are part of ‘the act’, so to speak, & thus feel compelled to play the <em>role </em>of the enchanted audience & just follow along & 'play dumb’ … at their own peril, of course. In the realm of global affairs these acts of manipulation are not for mere entertainment purposes, or rabbit tricks… our complacency makes us party to really dangerous stuff… sheep lead both to <em>slaughter</em> & <em>to be</em> slaughtered. If one believes that the old maxim<em> ‘as above, so below’ </em>has any merit, then there may be far more at stake than mere corporeal harm as well. This is why if we forget the lessons of history we are doomed to repeat them; perhaps until we learn them once & for all, or perhaps only until we done blowed ourselves up but good… "If you tell a lie big enough & keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic &/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, & thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state." - Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda, Nazi Germany (1933-1945) “The broad mass of the nation ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.” - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (1925) Tim, you sure do find some goodies while fishin’ the murky depths of the interweb! Thanks for the link; it should make for some very interesting reading. I’ve long been fascinated by the interrelationship between politics, propaganda/marketing, design, & the occult/magic… this PDF may add valuable additional insights.

It never ceases to amaze me how blatantly governments & corporations go about their acts of manipulation. Even when presented with obvious falsehoods & clear evidence of manipulation, most people remain oblivious or, perhaps more accurately, entranced by the sociological prestigitation they are witness to. Perhaps it is the outrageous, flagrant nature of what they are witness to… or the fact that they are part of ‘the act’, so to speak, & thus feel compelled to play the role of the enchanted audience & just follow along & ‘play dumb’ … at their own peril, of course.

In the realm of global affairs these acts of manipulation are not for mere entertainment purposes, or rabbit tricks… our complacency makes us party to really dangerous stuff… sheep lead both to slaughter & to be slaughtered. If one believes that the old maxim ‘as above, so below’ has any merit, then there may be far more at stake than mere corporeal harm as well. This is why if we forget the lessons of history we are doomed to repeat them; perhaps until we learn them once & for all, or perhaps only until we done blowed ourselves up but good…

“If you tell a lie big enough & keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic &/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, & thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state.” - Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda, Nazi Germany (1933-1945)

“The broad mass of the nation … will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.” - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (1925)

]]> By: Klintron http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-18682 Klintron Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:39:55 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/#comment-18682 PR! A Political History of Spin by Stuart Ewen's a great book on the history of propaganda and public relations. Bernays factors into it heavily, Ewen interviewed him late in his life and he's very candid about his work. PR! A Political History of Spin by Stuart Ewen’s a great book on the history of propaganda and public relations. Bernays factors into it heavily, Ewen interviewed him late in his life and he’s very candid about his work.

]]> By: TheBizofKnowledge http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/comment-page-1/#comment-18674 TheBizofKnowledge Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:27:46 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/08/01/velvet-propaganda/#comment-18674 I just wanted to leave a quick comment to say thanks for the post about Bernays and the link to the <em>Propaganda</em> book. I'm actually doing some research on the subject right now, so this really comes in handy! I just wanted to leave a quick comment to say thanks for the post about Bernays and the link to the Propaganda book. I’m actually doing some research on the subject right now, so this really comes in handy!

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