Comments on: Stalking the Technocracy

By: A Technocrat’s Response - Pop Occulture Blog

A Technocrat’s Response - Pop Occulture Blog — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:50:04 +0000

[...] Just for the record, he is right in several regards. When I say “technocracy” (which I have been saying a lot lately), I don’t mean the group Technocracy, Inc - unless otherwise stated. I do however, still see a lot of correlations between his clarifications and corrections to some of the more general points that I have been making (especially as expressed here) But since I am merely an outside observer, you all owe it to yourself to research and learn from people who actually know (ie, experts - see how that works?). Although, hell, who knows - there’s always the possibility that this guy is just flinging some disinformation to throw us off the trail of a very real conspiracy, right? Haha. I’m sure that he and his Technocrat friends will love reading that! Read Similar Articles: [...]

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:37:49 +0000

Yeah we could definitely delve into gnostic terrirtory with all this and I have an upcoming piece which does that a little bit more overtly. For right now though, I am actually trying to minimize the esoteric influences from this line of thinking, so as to put it into a form which will be semi-acceptable to people of non-conspiratorial/occult, etc mindsets

By: chutney

chutney — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:30:47 +0000

Taking this in a little different direction, would “the Technocrat” be a fair translation of “Demiurge?”

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:36:44 +0000

What a cornucopia of books! Haven’t heard of some of these! Thanks

By: sketchmonkey

sketchmonkey — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:14:19 +0000

If you're gonna dive into the high weirdness behind th 60s counter-culture, you may want to check out Turn Off Your Mind: The Mystic Sixties & the Dark Side of the Age of Aquarius ... you may already be familiar with it. Its been on my 'to read' list for some time, but I still have got a bunch of other books in the que before I get to it. Likewise, the following books may be useful resources as well: Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA, the Sixties, & Beyond, Virtual Government: CIA Mind Control Operations in America, Psychic Dictatorship in the U.S.A., The Making of a Counter Culture: Reflections on the Technocratic Society & Its Youthful Opposition, & The Medusa File: Secret Crimes & Coverups of the U. S. Government, to name only a few...

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:54:46 +0000

are working for the good of humanityâ€¦ not just according to their own unique or perverse logic but rather, in fact.

Yes, I think for me, that has been the core of why this theory is interesting. It’s not just uncovering the weird logic by which they believe that they are doing good, but it is this sort of fear almost that what they are doing really IS good and that I’ve been fucking up my opposing it. I’m not sold either way on it, but it’s damned interesting.

One of the directions which I want to take this next is going back into the sixties counter-culture stuff, and looking at how the govt/technocracy seems to have funded and supported everybody from leary to mckenna to the grateful dead, to the new age movement…

By: sketchmonkey

sketchmonkey — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:11:35 +0000

It IS interesting to consider that the ruling elite or 'conspiratorial' cabels, if such a group or groups do exist (&, more importantly, if they actually wield as much power as people give them credit for), are working for the good of humanity... not just according to their own unique or perverse logic but rather, in fact. Perhaps all the painful & scary shit that goes on in the world is analagous to the birth process, but on a planet-wide/ civilization scale. It may be scary, painful, protracted, calm, &/or quick... but the element of risk is always there. More importantly, it is necessary to go through the birthing process in order for something to be born. Now, whether or not that thing is an enlightened humanity or a planet hell remains to be seen. Either way, some folks just shake their head & declare that its God's Will. I suppose there is an element of truth to that... however, depending on one's perspective, that is either very comforting or rather unsettling...

By: alistair

alistair — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:44:03 +0000

in terms of evidence for the technocracy i don`t need to go further than my own experience of march of this year. my girl-friend of fourteen years and i were going to councelling before our eventual split and the psychologist doing the councelling told us that he was the chairman of a committee to lobby the government of ontario to allow psychologists sole right to provide councelling in the province. i was stunned to think that his guy was serious, but there you are, bald-faced technocracy at work.

By: Operation Paperclip: Proof of Technocracy? - Pop Occulture Blog

Operation Paperclip: Proof of Technocracy? - Pop Occulture Blog — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:56:49 +0000

[...] One further theory I want to put forth for speculation in regards to this technocratic thread. If you don’t buy the conspiracy theory that “experts” rule the world, consider what follows then as a sci-fi story, an alternate view of history told from a side we don’t often consider. So here goes… [...]

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:37:02 +0000

Also wanted to save a fuller version of a quote I found originally on that page which can be read in its entirety on the website of teh Ford Foundation:

Perhaps the greatest single shortcoming of our school system is its tendency to concern itself almost exclusively with the dissemination of information. Schools should be the most important influence outside of the home for the molding of whole persons. The function of the school is the broad training of mind and intellect. Yet individual purpose, character, and values, the bases of which are laid in the home, are often inadequately developed by the institutions which could, by precept and deeper teaching, assume a major share in supporting them most successfully. To concentrate on the absorption of information seems unrealistic when one realizes that students retain only a small portion of such information. Education must meet the needs of the human spirit.

http://www.fordfound.org/elibrary/documents/0130/007.cfm

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:33:31 +0000

Some really interesting quotes in this article about the connection between sociology and what we’re here calling technocracy (but which they call “sociocracy”).

http://www.newswithviews.com/Erica/Carle27.htm

This first one apparently comes from Auguste Comte - founder of the science of sociology and speaks to the importance of competition in this system:

Whatever is now systematized must be destroyed: and whatever is not systematized and therefore has vitality, must occasion collisions which we are not yet able accurately to foresee or adequately restrain. This will be the test of the positive philosophy, and and at the same time the stimulus to its social ascendancy.

From Charles A Ellwood, a sociologist in 1923:

If it were possible to control the learning of all individuals, in the way both of ideas and of emotional attitudes, as they come on to the stage of life, it would be possible to modify the whole complex of our social life, or our civilization, within the comparatively short space of one or two generations.

Ross L. Finney in 1928 wrote:

Two things appear: first, that the best minds are capable of gradually inventing a far better civilization than we now possess; and, second, that the masses are capable of negotiating by imitation any culture system that the brightest can invent, provided they are given opportunity for memoriter learning of, and imitative participation in, all the intellectual resources of which that culture system is constituted.