Comments on: Denny Klein’s Water Powered Vehicle?

By: Andre

Andre — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:25:13 +0000

I’ve actually been wanting to track him down, but I couldn’t remember his name. Thanks! I wanted to get my hands on some of that fire paste stuff.

Alex Jones has had Troy on his show before talking about his inventions and Troy’s run in with several people linked to 9/11 just prior to the event.

It looks like he’s still spending his time inventing crazy things. I’m surprised that he hasn’t disappeared as well. Maybe they leave him alone because few take him seriously.

That’s even a new website from the one he had a couple of years ago. Though its content seems a bit more cheesy. I did find some footage from his bearsuit tests. This stuff is as funny as it is interesting. Project Grizzly.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q3CzYw5-qdA

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:31:46 +0000

Speaking of which, whatever happened to that Canadian inventor who made that like death ray or whatever it was? His name was like Troy Hurtubise:

http://www.americanantigravity.com/hurtubise.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Hurtubise

By: Andre

Andre — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:27:26 +0000

The technology has been around for some time. I have used a water torch for making jewelry for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_torch
http://www.jewelerssupplies.com/Hydroflux-Water-Torch.html

As far as making a car run on it, I’d have to agree with Alec. The story is pretty misleading. Too many things were taken out of context (oh no, not FOX NEWS!).

His process is supposedly different than the use of ‘Brown’s Gas’.
http://www.watertorch.com/
And that’s where the ‘magnecular’ word comes in that was so heavily debated on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia...Articles_for_deletion/Magnecular_bond

Only time will tell if it really works for cars. I’d imagine that this story and possibly this guy will disappear.

By: RobWindt

RobWindt — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:15:45 +0000

Re steam engines, they were efficient, fast and quiet but you had to build up a head of steam before driving off and you still need liquid fuel (usually kerosene) as a heat source.
The invention of the electric starter motor for IC engines sounded their death knell, convenience uberalis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Steamer

By: RobWindt

RobWindt — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:20:58 +0000

I have two decades experience converting cars to propane and played around with this several years ago (see first link below) managed to produce some hydrogen but not in useful amounts. It seems to come down to the amount of power (electricity) put in and there will always be conversion losses. Have met some people who claimed success by acidifying the water (add lemon juice) but they admitted that the motor rusted solid if it sat idle for too long.
Drip feeding pre heated water into the intake will break it down into H and O, up to a certain point, and would be just as effective as some of these schemes.

FWIW i prefer low tech applications that can be built and maintained by the local handyman/mechanic and am currently building a woodgas producer http://www.gengas.nu/byggbes/index.shtml the technology was proven many times during WW2 fuel shortages. Research to date suggests that i should have a fuel consumption of 1/4 kg of firewood per kilometre

http://home.mchsi.com/~actt2/hydroxyplasma.html
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/
http://www.powerlabs.org/waterarc.html

Cheers
Rob

By: alistair

alistair — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:07:54 +0000

yeah, i don`t see the oil companies making him disappear yet.

By: Alec

Alec — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:30:32 +0000

I remember seeing this on digg a while ago. Yeah, here it is. There’s an extremely long discussion about it, with a whole lot of back and forth and scoffing on both sides.

The video is a bit sensationalist (it’s local news after all). They make it sound like the “100 miles on 4 ounces of water” applies to a car that runs exclusively on water (which he says is possible, but hasn’t demonstrated), when actually it applies to his “gasoline/water hybrid”, which most likely has a gasoline generator pumping out electricity to power the conversion of the water to whatever novel gas he claims to have discovered. So for all we know a car that runs exclusively on water might take 18,000 gallons to go 100 miles.

It’s probably not a good sign that the first sentence of his patent (see link 2 in the post) contains the word “magnecular”, which I don’t think is a real word. I mean, it’s real in so far as someone made it up fairly recently as a label for some paradigm-busting, repressed phenomenon, but …