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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/09/11/the-white-house-on-conspiracy-theorists/comment-page-1/#comment-20330</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 01:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it seems the biggest problem they have is acknowledging the fact that theyâ€™re perpetuating thisâ€¦.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh they know they're perpetuating it and it isnt a problem to them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it seems the biggest problem they have is acknowledging the fact that theyâ€™re perpetuating thisâ€¦.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh they know they&#8217;re perpetuating it and it isnt a problem to them!</p>
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		<title>By: khephret</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/09/11/the-white-house-on-conspiracy-theorists/comment-page-1/#comment-20324</link>
		<dc:creator>khephret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Grievances that can be blamed on others. The failures the terrorists feel and see are blamed both on others and on perceived injustices from the recent or sometimes distant past. The terroristsâ€™ rhetoric keeps wounds associated with this past fresh and raw, a potent motivation for revenge and terror.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



er....this makes me really nervous. i was in an airport today, and noticed signs the airport had placed with a picture of the twin towers imploding with "we will not forget" next to the area with the long line of people waiting to have checked luggage scanned...and remembered all the rumors i'd heard about people collaborating to airbrush the towers out of the skylines of NYC to 'help people heal'....

isn't this what our governement is doing though? i mean, really....at the risk of sounding completely naive, i must observe here that it seems the biggest problem they have is acknowledging the fact that they're perpetuating this....


hrm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Grievances that can be blamed on others. The failures the terrorists feel and see are blamed both on others and on perceived injustices from the recent or sometimes distant past. The terroristsâ€™ rhetoric keeps wounds associated with this past fresh and raw, a potent motivation for revenge and terror.</p></blockquote>
<p>er&#8230;.this makes me really nervous. i was in an airport today, and noticed signs the airport had placed with a picture of the twin towers imploding with &#8220;we will not forget&#8221; next to the area with the long line of people waiting to have checked luggage scanned&#8230;and remembered all the rumors i&#8217;d heard about people collaborating to airbrush the towers out of the skylines of NYC to &#8216;help people heal&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
<p>isn&#8217;t this what our governement is doing though? i mean, really&#8230;.at the risk of sounding completely naive, i must observe here that it seems the biggest problem they have is acknowledging the fact that they&#8217;re perpetuating this&#8230;.</p>
<p>hrm.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnomely</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/09/11/the-white-house-on-conspiracy-theorists/comment-page-1/#comment-20312</link>
		<dc:creator>Gnomely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow, do you have a link of where that person said that?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Found out about it from
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/conservative-pundits-reveal-murderous.html

(my ignorance is quite profound, I don't know how to reduce such a long link)

The site doesn't exist anymore but there is a jpg- http://agonist.org/files/active/0/ashamed.jpg

Lastly, I must say I simply love the word 'wow' and palindromes in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wow, do you have a link of where that person said that?</p></blockquote>
<p>Found out about it from<br />
<a href="http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/conservative-pundits-reveal-murderous.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/conservative-pundits-reveal-murderous.html'>http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/200...rvative-pundits-reveal-murderous.html</a></p>
<p>(my ignorance is quite profound, I don&#8217;t know how to reduce such a long link)</p>
<p>The site doesn&#8217;t exist anymore but there is a jpg- <a href="http://agonist.org/files/active/0/ashamed.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://agonist.org/files/active/0/ashamed.jpg'>http://agonist.org/files/active/0/ashamed.jpg</a></p>
<p>Lastly, I must say I simply love the word &#8216;wow&#8217; and palindromes in general.</p>
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		<title>By: hebrides</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/09/11/the-white-house-on-conspiracy-theorists/comment-page-1/#comment-20301</link>
		<dc:creator>hebrides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes!  Right on, J!  It's still a duality...THOSE conspiracy theorists are just, you know, the practical, smart patriotic guys...therefore, they're not paranoid, conspiracy-noids, just on the side of Truth(TM)!  THESE OTHER conspiracy theorists, though, are bonkers-- traiterous, terrorist-abetting degenerates!  And yet, they're ALL fellow travelers!  But then again, I just see in-fights going on everywhere in the political picture show...(Anti-NWO, crypto-christian identity patriots/neo-nazis vs. Pro-Imperial, neo-con fascists, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!  Right on, J!  It&#8217;s still a duality&#8230;THOSE conspiracy theorists are just, you know, the practical, smart patriotic guys&#8230;therefore, they&#8217;re not paranoid, conspiracy-noids, just on the side of Truth(TM)!  THESE OTHER conspiracy theorists, though, are bonkers&#8211; traiterous, terrorist-abetting degenerates!  And yet, they&#8217;re ALL fellow travelers!  But then again, I just see in-fights going on everywhere in the political picture show&#8230;(Anti-NWO, crypto-christian identity patriots/neo-nazis vs. Pro-Imperial, neo-con fascists, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But...in order to believe the White House's "official" version of events, wouldn't one have to be *gasp* &lt;em&gt;a conspiracy theorist?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But&#8230;in order to believe the White House&#8217;s &#8220;official&#8221; version of events, wouldn&#8217;t one have to be *gasp* <em>a conspiracy theorist?</em></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Conlon</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/09/11/the-white-house-on-conspiracy-theorists/comment-page-1/#comment-20239</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Conlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow...    the dots connect for me like this... Ned Lamont (re: "insurgency in CT") is an anti-war candidate, who, if I remember correctly, won against Joe Lieberman in the Democratic primary for Senate, thereby forcing Lieberman to go into an independent category.  I see Newt as somewhat tipping his hand in that the "big boys" (read:  the White House) enjoy some protection from the media and hearing what they want to hear from MSM, and he is out of the process and somewhat jealous, I would say "playing catchup" or pandering to the rabid right to such a degree that a democratic election for Senator from CT for chrissakes is 
"insurgency"...  Much less an American democratic primary...  This is blowing my fucking mind.   Now this is disturbing in a myriad of ways.  Firstly it sucks or is good depending on your perspective that the gloves have come off, clearly if you don't support the white house party line, you're a target.  And since we seem to have pissed off half the world already, we're a target, so you can't win.  If you can't see that you are disenfranchised, you are a fuckin' retard.  (yeah you too you rich fuck reading this thing.... all those zeros at the end of your bank statement aren't going to do shit when the lights go out, there's no gasoline, and the shit hits the fan)...

This whole thing about disinformation and lies is cute, Clinton's reaction to Sandy Berger's comment to somebody about not being authorized to take out bin Laden at the time for the new tv 9/11 miniseries or whatever  (I seem to remember Cnn.com's headline for the last couple days being a variant of "clinton to 9/11 film crew: get it right!).

It's time to park this horse at the trough, have a couple drinks and figure out which way this bitch is going, there is no time to fuck up again, you have unresolved wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and now apparently Iran and No. Korea are on the short list, it's just a matter of time till someone pops a nuke.  

Anybody from the white house reading this should really not feed their own ego and think nobody sees what the fuck is going on.  

Just don't threaten to kill us or imprison us in gitmo because we have the balls to talk about it... 

"Blogs are not 'dirty bombs'."

-tc
syseng@msn.com

&lt;a href="http://www.unknownnews.net/060911bushcarpet3.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;Related picture&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;    the dots connect for me like this&#8230; Ned Lamont (re: &#8220;insurgency in CT&#8221;) is an anti-war candidate, who, if I remember correctly, won against Joe Lieberman in the Democratic primary for Senate, thereby forcing Lieberman to go into an independent category.  I see Newt as somewhat tipping his hand in that the &#8220;big boys&#8221; (read:  the White House) enjoy some protection from the media and hearing what they want to hear from MSM, and he is out of the process and somewhat jealous, I would say &#8220;playing catchup&#8221; or pandering to the rabid right to such a degree that a democratic election for Senator from CT for chrissakes is<br />
&#8220;insurgency&#8221;&#8230;  Much less an American democratic primary&#8230;  This is blowing my fucking mind.   Now this is disturbing in a myriad of ways.  Firstly it sucks or is good depending on your perspective that the gloves have come off, clearly if you don&#8217;t support the white house party line, you&#8217;re a target.  And since we seem to have pissed off half the world already, we&#8217;re a target, so you can&#8217;t win.  If you can&#8217;t see that you are disenfranchised, you are a fuckin&#8217; retard.  (yeah you too you rich fuck reading this thing&#8230;. all those zeros at the end of your bank statement aren&#8217;t going to do shit when the lights go out, there&#8217;s no gasoline, and the shit hits the fan)&#8230;</p>
<p>This whole thing about disinformation and lies is cute, Clinton&#8217;s reaction to Sandy Berger&#8217;s comment to somebody about not being authorized to take out bin Laden at the time for the new tv 9/11 miniseries or whatever  (I seem to remember Cnn.com&#8217;s headline for the last couple days being a variant of &#8220;clinton to 9/11 film crew: get it right!).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to park this horse at the trough, have a couple drinks and figure out which way this bitch is going, there is no time to fuck up again, you have unresolved wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and now apparently Iran and No. Korea are on the short list, it&#8217;s just a matter of time till someone pops a nuke.  </p>
<p>Anybody from the white house reading this should really not feed their own ego and think nobody sees what the fuck is going on.  </p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t threaten to kill us or imprison us in gitmo because we have the balls to talk about it&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;Blogs are not &#8216;dirty bombs&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>-tc<br />
<a href="mailto:syseng@msn.com">syseng@msn.com</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.unknownnews.net/060911bushcarpet3.jpg" rel="nofollow">Related picture</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/09/11/the-white-house-on-conspiracy-theorists/comment-page-1/#comment-20228</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, do you have a link of where that person said that?</description>
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		<title>By: Gnomely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnomely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jesus,
I am interested in why conservative rhetoric is so extreme? My conservative uncle gets a weird glow in his eyes when he starts ranting about the evils of liberalism.I think he might be brainwashed by sinister forces. He calls me a 'liberal commie'... Of course my Uncle follows the word of Rush and Coulter as the word of God....I end up telling him to wipe Rush's dripping cum off his lips.
  Newt Gingrich is considering a run for President- so he knows such comments will go over well with the foaming folks... You have people on the right who believe Bill Clinton is responsible for 9/11, that Saddam flew his WMD to Syria before the invasion, and that war protesters are actively supporting terrorists. 
 The greatest amount of alienation and anger seems to be coming from the right more than anywhere else. And considering how pathologically unhealthy they are with their love of state violence, I think a blogger commiting an act of violence is likely.
 Consider this-Denny K of The Flying Monkey-Right Blog &lt;blockquote&gt;"Let's start with the following New York Times reporters and editors: Arthur 'Pinch' Sulzberger Jr., Bill Keller, Eric Lichtblau, and James Risen. Do you have an idea where they live? Go hunt them down and do America a favor. Get their photo, street address, where their kids go to school, anything you can dig up, and send it to the link above. This is your chance to be famous -- grab for the golden ring."&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 That is fooking messed up. Look at conservative sites and their humor consists of making death threats...In conclusion, conservatives bloggers are more scary than a haunted house filled with fantastical horrors.  They really are. 
                                                                               Yours truly,
                                                                                Gnomely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jesus,<br />
I am interested in why conservative rhetoric is so extreme? My conservative uncle gets a weird glow in his eyes when he starts ranting about the evils of liberalism.I think he might be brainwashed by sinister forces. He calls me a &#8216;liberal commie&#8217;&#8230; Of course my Uncle follows the word of Rush and Coulter as the word of God&#8230;.I end up telling him to wipe Rush&#8217;s dripping cum off his lips.<br />
  Newt Gingrich is considering a run for President- so he knows such comments will go over well with the foaming folks&#8230; You have people on the right who believe Bill Clinton is responsible for 9/11, that Saddam flew his WMD to Syria before the invasion, and that war protesters are actively supporting terrorists.<br />
 The greatest amount of alienation and anger seems to be coming from the right more than anywhere else. And considering how pathologically unhealthy they are with their love of state violence, I think a blogger commiting an act of violence is likely.<br />
 Consider this-Denny K of The Flying Monkey-Right Blog<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Let&#8217;s start with the following New York Times reporters and editors: Arthur &#8216;Pinch&#8217; Sulzberger Jr., Bill Keller, Eric Lichtblau, and James Risen. Do you have an idea where they live? Go hunt them down and do America a favor. Get their photo, street address, where their kids go to school, anything you can dig up, and send it to the link above. This is your chance to be famous &#8212; grab for the golden ring.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> That is fooking messed up. Look at conservative sites and their humor consists of making death threats&#8230;In conclusion, conservatives bloggers are more scary than a haunted house filled with fantastical horrors.  They really are.<br />
                                                                               Yours truly,<br />
                                                                                Gnomely</p>
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