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The Ecology of the Self
Save Your Selves!
The other day I started a conversation around a David Abram quote (who I’ve been mining a lot from lately) about what could be seen as perhaps an ecological approach to spirituality. Abram writes:
… the most sophisticated definition of “magic” that now circulates through the American counterculture is “the ability or power to alter one’s consciousness at will.” There is no mention made of any reason for altering one’s state of consciousness.
And he goes on to suggest that the true purpose of magic is actually ecological, and that the role of the magician is to act as a sort of transit point between the human community and the more-than-human community. And elsewhere online, Abram complains that the methods of spiritual inquiry currently popular, in the United States especially, are
directed almost entirely toward the pursuit of personal healing and personal growth. Alas, this ‘human potential’ movement is all too exclusively human and self-centered: it, too, readily perpetuates the alienation of modern humankind from the breathing earth.
We’ve also explored an aspect of this dilemma from the perspective of primitivism, where some people are suggesting that saving the world is a waste of time because it is an abstraction. Ran Prieur writes recently:
And I don’t care whether we can free the whole human species. That question is a distraction from the work of freeing ourselves and our closest friends.
To be fair, this knot isn’t exclusive to primitivists; I see it coming up as a topic all the time in counter-culturalists of all stripes, and people interested in alternative spirituality, conspiracy theory and all over. And I understand the frustration that brings you to this point: you start investigating and thinking through all the “big” problems out there. And the more questions you ask, the more questions reveal themselves to be asked. Complexity begets complexity until the point where it collapses on itself and you’re left with the notion that maybe there’s really nothing you can do in this world but “save yourself.”
But therein lies the escape hatch from that way of thinking: what exactly is one’s “self?”
Where does it come from? What does it look like? What is it made up of? Is the self made up of memories, of feelings, of thoughts, emotions, experiences, the past, present, future, the influences of other people, the effects of your environment, the soul, the heart, the mind, the body, your DNA? Which one of those is it?
The short answer: it’s all of those and much more.
The long answer: the self is an ecosystem, a complex web of interlocking relationships. Parts of your self are made up of your experiences of other people which you have internalized so thoroughly over the years that you now think of them as you. In fact, you might make an a convincing argument that the overwhelming majority of the self is actually made up of other people.
Ran’s comment above, about saving those “closest to you” speaks to a certain recognition of this Ecology of the Self: that the individual self is actually distributed among your family and friends. We only know certain aspects of our selves and what we are capable of being thanks to our interaction with other people, with other ecological vortices of selfhood. It’s a peculiar twist of human nature that we can’t access our own selves fully, except through our interactions with others. And this is why we cling so closely to one another, banding together in small proto-tribal groups: because our selves are actually a distributed network. Without access to that network, that ecosystem, we lose access to ourselves.
Suddenly, we have expanded our notion of what we our, what constitutes our selves from the narrow description of what resides in our individual meat-bodies, into something invisible which exists within our relationships to one another: into a social ecosystem. From that point, it’s only a small hop into expanding our selves to also incorporate the objects around us (which marketers have been cleverly manipulating for generations), to the events which we partake in (that line in Fight Club about not being able to really know yourself unless you’ve been in a fight springs to mind), as well as the environment we find ourselves in. Have you ever gone to a new place, a new city and felt the stirrings of something entirely new and different? Of course you have, because your sense of your self includes a sense of time and place. If you existed in another spatial and temporal context, the way your selfhood would have been allowed to be expressed would have been radically different.
So it seems that an ecological understanding of the self may be the “missing link” between saving your-self and saving the world. Ecology doesn’t just mean nature, plants and animals (although those all fit within it), it means what are you a part of and what is a part of you? How large are you able to expand your notion of who you are and what you are made up of? Are you ready or able to give up small artificial boundaries that you have drawn or been drawn for you about what constitutes “you” and “not-you?” What types of relationships are you engaged in as part of your personal ecology: symbiotic, parasitic, predatory? What do you take from and add to the ecosystem (used in a broader sense than simply “nature” again) in which you find yourself? How does your ecosystem interlock with and affect other ecosystems - both of equal size and complexity, of smaller and of larger scale? What effect do your words, thoughts, feelings and actions have on that ecology? What can you do to improve the relationships that compose your personal ecology of self?
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October 11th, 2006 at 11:06 am
Two things are natural for humans to do. Eat and screw. Not necessarily in that order. The rest is poetry. By twisting and turning language we contemplate all the moral aspects of living. This falls under the notion of belief, religion, spirituality , etc. It is fun to do.
Practicality , and usefulness may be a good guideline about living. Since no belief has any more value than any other , it would seem that in a good society freedom of belief is essential.
All the things you mention are jumbled up at one time in every human.
I have said this before, but my own way to relate to the world of people is to let them know that, I do not care what they think.
This lets people know that the relationship they have with me will be different than relationships they may have with some others.
I will not pretend to be reasonable. I will not be caught in the tender trap of , I will love if……
October 11th, 2006 at 11:12 am
When you tell someone you will love them if they do such and such, it is like a fake legal contract.
I will love you if you do not kiss another , for instance. People are looking for slaves more than relationships. Their own personal slaves.
October 11th, 2006 at 11:35 am
There’s a great mystery in the concept of ‘knowing one’s self (for one’s self).’ The salvation of the self, when viewed in this light (and in the light which you discuss in this post) invariably leads to the salvation of the entire Cosmos. I like to think of it this way: the most effective way to lead is by example. Since we are the center of a web of connected nodes, if we work very dilligently to save our selves and those immediately around us by trying to lead by example, then they will do so in turn, and this salvation will be transmitted through the realms of causality in what is essentially a big ol’ chain reaction.
The Buddhists (and to an extent, the Gnostics) say that achieving enlightenment and praying and meditation on an individual level is a supreme act of compassion for the entire universe. Why is this the case?
October 11th, 2006 at 12:18 pm
“Acquire a peaceful spirit, and around you thousands will be saved.” — St. Seraphim of Sarov
October 11th, 2006 at 12:27 pm
Yes.
I recently got religion and “found myself”. Reinvigorated and now out of my depressive slump, I’ve come to realize the following: the most important thing each and every one of us can do today is to promote ecological thinking in the broadest sense of the word. Once you incorporate an ecological consciousness, all else follows.
For example, defining ecology in broad mathematical terms (any dynamical system with feedback loops) ultimately leads one to an operational concept of “karma”, i.e. ones actions have downstream consequences. An awareness of this breeds respect for ones neighbor and ones own personal dignity.
October 11th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
Tim, you just wrote every thought and conclusion that I have been meditating on very strongly in the last few weeks. Thanks for writing this! I’d like also point out with concern to “why magick?” theme that pops up every once in a while, that seeing as humanity and self is an ecosystem and a network like to that of the rest of Nature, it occurs to me that magick is like being conscious of your breath. You become aware of something that we are already doing and strive to do it properly for a better result.
October 11th, 2006 at 2:16 pm
Not necessarily. Sure, it is in the example you gave, but what if it’s “I’ll love you if you get off crack” or “I’ll love you if you’ll free yourself from mental slavery”? (that sounds stupid, but i think you know what i mean)
October 11th, 2006 at 2:51 pm
This hit me strongly after reading this post by Alex Steffen about how, however big the issue of climate change is, focusing on it as a single issue that “overrides all others” misses the fundamental mindset that we need to shift to to solve this issue (and all the others connected to it).
Then, again on WorldChanging.com, Hana Loftus wrote an excellent post about ecoliteracy in education.
I would say, “We should apply this to magic, too”, but again that kind of misses the point. We have to begin to appreciate ecologies on every level, and seeing magic as set apart from science, art and religion is part of the problem. There’s differences, of course, but these differences are as much the basis of relationship as they are indications of independence.
This post reminds me of Alan Watts’ ideas, esp. in The Book - a stunning introduction to spiritual ecology, although it doesn’t use that term. The idea that the skin is as much a bridge as a barrier, and that our identity, followed through, extends to touch the rest of the universe.
Also, I think of an activist friend’s take on the idea of “making a difference”. He says that your life makes a difference whatever you do. You’re here, inextricable. It’s a trick of modern consciousness to play that “What if I didn’t exist?” mind game. We all make a difference, the only question is, what sort of difference?
October 11th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
“Of the desires expressed the one which is most right is the desire to be master of
oneself,because without this nothing else is possible.And in comparison with this
desire all other desires are simply childish dreams,desires of which a man could make no use even if they were granted to him.
“It was said,for instance,that somebody wanted to help people.In order to be able
to help people one must first learn to help oneself.A great number of people become absorbed in thoughts and feelings about helping others simply out of laziness.They are too lazy to work on themselves;and at the same time it is very pleasant for them to think that they are able to help others.This is being false and insincere with oneself.If a man looks at himself as he really is,he will not begin to think of helping other people:he will be ashamed to think about it.Love of mankind,altruism,are all very fine words,but they only have meaning when a man is able,of his own choice and of his own decision,to love or not to love,to be an altruist or an egoist.Then his choice has a value.But if there is no choice at all,if he cannot be different,if he is only such as chance has made or is making him,an altruist today,an egoist tomorrow,again an altruist the day after tomorrow,then there is no value in it whatever.In order to help others one must first learn to be an egoist,a conscious egoist.Only a conscious egoist can help people.Such as we are we can do nothing.A man decides to be an egoist but gives away his last shirt instead.He decides to give away his last shirt,but instead,he strips of his last shirt the man to whom he meant to give his own.Or he decides to give away his own shirt but gives away somebody else’s and is offended if somebody refuses to give him his shirt so that he may give it to another.This is what happens most often.And so it goes on.”
–Gurdjieff
October 11th, 2006 at 3:52 pm
conditional contracts……..conditional love. that`s what we have in our marriages today. much of what is conditional about these contracts also goes unsaid. ticking timebombs waiting to explode.
skip, if the person you have grown to love in a traditional relationship then shows a desire to kiss someone else……..how are you to react?
i realise i am making some assumptions here but………..i am curious.
October 11th, 2006 at 4:04 pm
This is a great blog entry! My work was mentioned on this blog a while back and I’ve focused specifically on this issue. David Abrams’ limitation (as I’ve discussed previously online, found by searching my name and his) is that he doesn’t go beyond a formal analysis of semitic-based languages vis a vis ecology. This is understandable considering the extreme debates about P.I.E. — Proto-Indo-European. I’m certaintly no expert (in anything!) but the Elamite culture that created the Sumerian civilization was African-based or at least Dravidian. Please let me give an overview of how I’ve supplemented the great work of David Abrams.
There’s just some fascinating things about language and what is the “self.” The whole emphasis on “self” in western culture is because the West relies on formal axioms for left-brain logic with the first axiom being the definition of God: “I am that I am.”
Language becomes more musical the older language gets and in this sense the language is more sophisticated since the tonal patterns are harder to reproduce. So the Koi-San languages of Africa are the most musical — and every person in the traditional Koi-San culture is trained to become a spiritual healer — through trance-dance alchemy.
90% of modern human history is hunter-gatherer-based just as the Koi-San culture, with very strict gender relations. For example every time a man goes hunting there has to be 3 days and nights of absolutely no contact with females (and it’s a hunting culture!). But then once a week there is an all-night trance dance for spiritual healing. This sounds sexually repressed but in the Koi-San cultures have a very young age for coupling — in some the females marry at age 7 and the men at age 14!! Most importantly the population density was much lower.
Again this could sound to be objectifying of females but these cultures were matrilineal, with no organized warfare because there was no chieftain of a village city-state. You can see this matrifocal culture preserved in the horticulture based villages (that use hoes for farming instead of plows). The latest research states that patriarchy started with the domestication of cows and in the Sumerian language it is the letter “A” that is really an upside-down bulls head. Language in these village city-states was right-brain-based is documented with the use of the Lyre as the main tool for recording history. The music of the lyre (a hand-held harp) was a memory-device to activate the more holographic properties of the right-brain. Early Greek for example was written right to left. The Tantric rituals were central to power in these city-state empires (see Professor David Gordon White’s recent book “Kiss of the Yogini).
Sublimating sexual energy, using NON-WESTERN MUSICAL RESONANCE, is the secret to creating spirtual paranormal powers and this is why real magic is so rare in the West (despite the post-modern New Age hype).
The formal reason for the ecological crisis, connected to this transference of sexual energy into the commodity fetish, is the “deep disharmony” (math professor Luigi Borzacchini) that was created when a left-brain logical axiom was fused with a precise symbol for infinity — the square root of two.
Amazingly music ratio theory is almost always left out of the Pythagorean Theorem — the founding lie that created western science. Science works (but for whom is another question). Science is a type of spiritual magic (Freemasonry as techno-spirituality, as detailed by Professor David F. Noble in his book “the Religion of Technology” 1996) but science comes at the expense of ecology. There is no “pure” science — the Pythagorean Theorem was created by a military dictator, Archytas, a buddy of Plato and it was created for better catapult technology!
Why is the ecological crisis happening? Science is obsessed with symmetry — and with good reason! Left-brain logic plus right-hand technology (Metal) goes against left-handed carbon-based molecules (ecology as Earth) by creating right-handed silica-based Alife (Fire as desertification). That’s the secret cycling of the elements known to be the foundation of Zoroastrian-influenced Platonic science aka Freemasonry. The origins of Freemasonry have been recently traced to 10,000 BC when a “symbolic revolution” occurred with the rise of anthropocentric art (for the first time) that caused a destruction of all circular houses (the Lunar-Female spiritual power) so that a rectilinear plow-warfare culture could expand efficiently (see the book “Origins of Agriculture and the Birth of the Gods” Cambridge u Press, 2000). It is emphasized that the “symbolic revolution” occurred BEFORE the creation of rectilinear plow-based farming.
So as long as the West is not willing to recognize the fact that left-brain logic, with a precise symbol for infinity, an attempt to “square the circle” (Freemasonry), is at the source of the ecological crisis, as well as the spiritual crisis, then no real “revolution” will occur.
In fact this link between ecological and spiritual crisis is very specific. If you read Sri Ramana Maharshi’s books (the modern teacher and master of Advaita Vedanta) he describes how, by focusing on the Self, the source of the I-thought, literally repeating I-I-I, he stopped his heart for 15 minutes and not until he did that did he become eternally liberated. This step to “cutting the knot” is very hard for even his followers to accept but Sri Ramana Maharshi is very explicit about this, as are his closest disciples, Sri H.W.L. Poonja and David Godman, who both write that only 6 people on the planet, at any one time, achieve Jnana or eternal liberation.
So the left-brain logic, as inference of the I-thought, even practiced by Kurt Godel and Socrates, is the foundation for Vedic philosophy and also enables the creation of a priesthood of the Undead! The right-brain of the cerebrum (and left-brain of the cerebellum) is cut off from the human and all emotions are disregarded so that pure logic for right-hand technology can be mastered. At around this time in Vedic philosophy the spiritual value of silver, as Lunar, female power, was replaced by Iron — with literally iron becoming more valuable as a temple sacrifice currency. Iron, of course, was more efficient for warfare technology. That the right-brain and left-brain (of the cerebellum) is crucial to evolution and emotions — through music communication — is argued with the latest science in the recent book “This is your brain on Music” by Dr. Daniel Levitin.
So “I Am that I Am” is really One as I resonating as 2:3 (the Perfect Fifth music interval that is also Yang) and 3:4 (the Perfect 4th music interval that is Yin) back to “that” — the empty awareness as consciousness or Self. The 1-4-5 music intervals are the same three chords which make up the basis for blues music and rock — in fact ALL human cultures use the 1-4-5 music intervals (for spiritual healing, to guide drug trips, etc.).
There are 12 harmonic nodes along the outside of the body, called the “small universe” or “microcosmic orbit” — these 12 nodes are the same 12 notes of the Western music scale. There’s a big difference though since the Western scale is based on the square root of two (with 3 notes of the major tone, 9:8, approximating the square root of two as the Tritone or “devil’s interval”). If it is a Pythagorean-Taoist-Vedic music scale then the 9:8 ratio resonates as an alchemical subset of 1:2:3:4 — see the book “Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality” for details.
The Full-Lotus spiritual yoga position (lost to the West) is actually a Tetrahedron (composed of 4 equilateral triangles — each equilateral triangle made of two 3:4:5 triangles — the secret basis of Platonic-Freemason philosophy and spread by Marsilio Ficino). So the ratio 5:4 (in music ratios the harmonics reverse themselves with equal value, in violation of left-brain logic) approximates the cube root of two — demonstrating how the third dimension (the cube) naturally resonates from the holographic two dimensions, currently accepted as the foundation for the unified field theory. This paradox of logic is the cutting edge of quantum chaos theory, as verified by Alain Connes, Brian Josephson, and others — but known of them come from a music-trained background!
Because Western science is naturally based on “deep disharmony” then as it develops the ecological crisis will worsen. In response to the ecological crisis, science (techno-spirituality) is relying on nanotechnology — specifically the Tetrahedron secrets of the Buckyfullerene to make silica-based Alife. Water is the pivot for the “cycling of the elements” (left-hand carbon to right-hand silica) since water is a macro quantum chaos element that creates negentropy or antigravity — through its tetrahedron binding properties.
That which remains unchanged is the nonlocal consciousness.
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October 11th, 2006 at 4:38 pm
alistair , I take pity on you. I have been in bad relationships in the past , and it is one of the most painful things in the world.
Why is it so painful.?
Because we have gone against ourselves. We have allowed another person to control us with hoop jumping behavior. You may have even had to jump through your own hoops of misconception and confusion.
This is painful , but you will get over it.
You must retrace your footsteps back to when you were free and happy.
When you were free and happy and in that mode you would have told your wife that she is a free agent, and could and can, do anything that she pleases.
That you do not want to control here in any way, and that you loved her enough to allow her to be free.
Am I right.?
If you care about someone, you allow them to do as they want.
If they want to go and screw someone you say, go ahead babe.
I will be here when you get home. I have only one thing to say to you.
Make the most of it , and have as good as time as you can. Otherwise you are only cheating yourself.~!~
Now that is the reality of a good relationship.
I am guessing that your relationship devolved into something that was not healthy, good, life affirming etc.
Reality is that having sex is not a lot different than shaking hands with someone.
The reality is that women is not going to wear that thing out, by using it.
You catch my drift. People are together because they want to be. You can not make a person like you or love you. They may, they may not.
Another point is this. You can decide to love someone for your own reasons.
Those reasons do not have any bearing on what the other person thinks about you yourself.
You are your own person.
If they love you that is optional. It should not make a difference in how you feel, or you are playing games , and showing hoops for love to jump through.
You`ll get over it. You will laugh about this. You put yourself into a spell. Snap out of it. Ha ha.~!~
I like the long Gurdjieff thing here. He was an interesting guy , and I spent many years contemplating his writing , and incorporating some of his ideas into my life. He is very funny. At base he was great. A very annoying character though. Brilliant and twisted. At heart lots of wisdom. Was he an esoteric Christian.? Not really, although many think so. Was he a kind of esoteric Sufi . Mmm, not really . He did have a good grasp on both. I don`t want to romanticize him , but he is a fun subject . Ha.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
I’m all for exploration but the ideal you describe here is not easily put into practice.
Millions of years of evolution produced sexual jealousy for a reason.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Interesting.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
sexual jealousy……..i don`t even see it as jealousy. more a betrayal. i believe we are to stay together to raise our children and all that.
skip, i had a horrid relationship but it didn`t end because of infedelity. it was about deeper issues of control. i do remember my laughter and freedom. it has never gone away all that much. i am concerned personally for my children and the legal battle over assets that is looming.
i have heard the position that some take about sharing sexual partners and keeping love seperate. i`m not wired that way though. this isn`t a judgement on those who are……..it`s just an alien concept to me. i think sometimes that i`m in the minority these days. with all the pressures on monogamy and family i can see real trouble for anglo-saxons looming.
Gurdjieff….yeah, sort of a crowley on the run across war-torn europe.
i had a little book once, written by ouspensky about gurdjieff and his wife and a gaggle of followers travelling across europe during wwII. i can`t find it amongst my things but it will show up. he was a bizzare cat, having his group do odd things like standing on one leg every time he blew a whistle. his wife died of some untreatable illness during thier travels. very strange tale.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:18 pm
Hello?
October 11th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
OK — I posted a very long comment previously so I’ll just keep waiting! thanks.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:33 pm
Sorry , I did not mean to say my approach would work for you. Just giving my approach.
You say you believe you are to stay together to raise your children and such.
It turned out that this belief of yours did not play out. So now what.?
I think you may want to modify this belief in the face of reality.
The legal battle over assets. This is sticky. One approach you may want to take is to just ignore the whole thing.
It sounds like this will not turn out right regardless of what you do henceforth.
Maybe you should stop your involvement .
Show up in court if they make you.
Just shift gears.
Don`t even get a lawyer. Tell the judge you don`t care what they decide.
This is not a criminal thing.
They can`t do anything to you besides tell you to exit some property or make you give them money.
You are concerned over your children. That seems natural enough. Let the opposition decide what happens. People try and take revenge sometimes in this situation.
Go out and listen to some live blues music.
As to Gurdjieff stuff you have a lot of the tidbits right above here. I know the book you are talking about. I have to mention to you that Crowley and Gurdjieff were extreme and mortal enemies. Gurdjieff hated Crowley with an extreme passion. They talked once and Gurdjieff made some incredibly devastatingly bad comments on this person that he considered a real devil if there is such a thing.
You are going to lament for a while it seems.
Myself , I would put the burden now on the other person.
I would only get involved if it is a court thing.
I don`t think I would get an attorney. Let her take you to the cleaners if she wants too.
Who cares.?
Your kids may or may not figure it all out later. No accounting for that.
If you want to really get your mind of things , go out and buy a copy of Gurdjieffs , Beelzebub`s tales to his Grandson.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
BTW, the book I just suggested is a heady brew of science fiction , history, the nature of man, esoteric everything, and just about the kitchen sink of consciousness , awareness and so forth. The other title for it is , All and Everything.
Tim, you may or not be interested in this book also. You did mention science fiction as one of your likes. This is also a science fiction book, and as one, is one of the greatest of all time. Ha ha. My opinion.
October 11th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
Tim, thanks for a very interesting post. This is definitely a powerful and important perspective on the self. I wonder if my ecology has some sort of gravitational center. And how does it relate to consciousness? Is it the distinction between self and Self?
October 11th, 2006 at 8:10 pm
Apparently my stuff is over the head of this blogger. http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm
October 11th, 2006 at 9:20 pm
skip, thanks brother……actually i`m the one sueing for custody, equity etc…….common law is an interesting minefield.
we are already well into attorney fees.
Gurdjieff vs. crowley? two peas in a small pod of acolytes. as spiritual as all these cats ere, they still relied on money and power. all, of course given by entertained socialites.
drew, sorry bud. we got off on a tangent. you have some pretty well thought out points there. keep it up.
October 11th, 2006 at 9:24 pm
O.K, Drew , I am not impressed. Conspiracy theory does not turn me on . I am sure it feels right to you to debate these silly things in your mind. Many either/or questions there. That also does nothing for me. Sorry. This stuff is unappealing , at least to me.
I have studied history my whole life , and this type of dumbed down version does not appeal. Sorry. You asked.
October 11th, 2006 at 10:06 pm
Considering you think the information I’ve offered is “theory” your critical skills are quite clear! But as I stated — I already had written a long comment particular to this blog entry and it was censored by Tim (or his screen program). It got disappeared at any rate. I have tons of information online — on science blog sites, activist sites, philosphy sites, etc. (about 1000 hits per google “drew hempel”) If you want to dismiss it all as conspiracy — the field research of ivy league anthropologists, my correspondance with scientists in all disciplines, etc. — go ahead! Anyone can be a “skeptic” — i.e. choose to no longer think about something. That’s very impressive! haha My masters thesis is freely readable online and is from the U of Minnesota, 2001. My personal experiences with conspiracies are not at all theory (sabotage, threats, censorship, assaults, etc.) This is why the internet is already totally worthless. I read one scholarly book a day! The internet is now all about you-tube and forums are dominated by “emoticons” and stupid graphics, etc. I’ve debated your level of intellectual standards so many times already that it’s just boring to me!
End of discussion (my information is freely available online and many people have found it on their own — including someone who already posted on this blog — “N.F.” — that’s why I returned to read this entry — via a google search of my name!)
October 11th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
Drew, you need to *seriously* chill out. If you had read the commenting guidelines, you would know that new commenters must be approved manually by me before being allowed to post freely. And if you could just relax for a moment, you might have realized that maybe I was away at work all day and didn’t have a chance to approve your comments until only recently.
October 11th, 2006 at 11:26 pm
David, I don’t think people are not helping others out of laziness. I think that there are so many problems in our society that we oftan feel overwhelmed and don’t know where to begin. The fact that we are conditioned to the quick fix doesn’t help. We want to find the one thing that can solve everything.
Regading jelousy, I disagree that it is something that evolved with us for a reason. I’m in a polyamorous relationship (as many people are) and it occurs to me that jelousy can only exist if you feel a threat to the relationship. Unless I feel the relationship is having problems, I won’t percieve the physical and emotional love to someone other than myself as an issue. It’s a problem to be solved with a serious amount of honest communication and self-examination. I know many people will think me scum for it, but I just think it’s a reality that you can love, and have a physical, mental, emotional, and/or spiritual relationship with more than one person at a time. I can’t see how that makes it less sacred a partnership. It’s kinda like when I was asked who I love more, my biological, or adoptive mom. I just don’t see it like that; like more or less.
October 12th, 2006 at 1:42 am
Try reading the quote, Jenn, and thinking more critically. Gurdjieff at no time condemns people who help other people. He speaks most highly of ordinary, decent folk–”obyvatel” is the word he uses to describe them, a Russian word which to him indicates someone who can support 20 other people through their labor, who is the healthy kernel of a societal citizen. What he does condemn is self-delusion, people who are conditioned to “give” and actually only expect to “receive” or simply do their “charity” from reactivity and insincerity.
I always come back to the story of my grandfather who amazed my father by filling his store’s stockroom with refrigerators, more than seemed wise or practical. When my father commented that he couldn’t imagine why my grandfather had stocked so many of these items, my grandfather turned to him and said, “If I don’t buy–how can I sell?”
Love, charity and kindness, to be true, are things to be stored up and purchased within a person. They take effort. They are not cheap.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:00 am
Well so the information remains censored and a day has passed. I guess too much emotion justifies censorship.
So here goes: Language is more musical the older you go — but one needs to go to NONWESTERN MUSIC. Western “spiritual” people are idiots.
The full-lotus is based on 4 equilateral triangles — the tetrahedron — with each triangle made of 3:4:5 harmonic Pythaogrean triangles. 4:5 is the Major 3rd as 5:4 which equals the cube root of two. 3:4 is the Perfect 4th and 2:3 is the Perfect 5th. This ratios 2:3 and 3:4 are the same as Yin and Yang.
There are 12 nodes along the outside of the body — this is called the “small universe” or “microcosmic orbit” — it’s the same the 12 notes of the music scale — except it’s not western “logarithmic” tuning.
I’ll start with this — see if it passes the Great Oz — and work from there.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:06 am
Now — is this “theory” or “fact” — TOO WESTERN YOUR COMMENTS ARE!
Math IS physics IS Freemasonry IS Technology — there is no “pure” science — it’s all based on imperialism.
Now — to David Abrams in particular. Left brain logic started with “I Am that I Am” which comes from Vedic philosophy but it’s actually I as One and AM as 2:3 and 3:4 with “that” being the 4th dimension of space or formless consciousness.
There was a reversal from right-brain language dominance, shown by the use of the Lyre (harp) for memory history practice — long poems sung — in the city-state empires of Western Asia.
Tantra was central to these empires — the ruling King would have to be trained by a Sex Spiritual Goddess — but the harmonic ratios are the secret of this power.
Gender relations is the key to creating true spiritual energy and since the West is based on the commodity fetish there is a “separation of heaven and earth (or mind and sex energy)” through techno-spirituality (left-brain and right-hand Western civilization).
The Vedic Brahmins literally killed themselves — read Sri Ramana Maharshi — by seeking the source of the I-thought as the Self (repeating I-I-I). This caused a reversal of right-brain dominance into left-brain logic dominance for increase of right-hand technology.
This process trys to “contain infinity” through a precise symbol — which is impossible — and so goes against the natural resonance of 1:2:3:4 (Yin and yang as Om-Amen-Am).
October 12th, 2006 at 8:09 am
Now the “conspiracy” that I’ve exposed is promoted by the top military thinktanks — Sandia Labs, Los Alamos and Santa Fe Institute (where theory and technology merge) by George Johnson in his recent book “Fire in the Mind” and by John Casti’s recent book “One True Platonic Heaven.”
The unified field theory is actually “applied superstring theory” based on a deepening disharmony — detailed in the recent book “Supersymmetry” by the particle physicist professor at UM-Ann Arbor. Mass squared is inversely proportional to energy frequency distance. This logarithmic inverse proportion is the same as the “music logarithmic spiral” detailed in the “conspiracy” I happened upon:
http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm
October 12th, 2006 at 8:14 am
For more details just read my old blog http://drewhempel.gnn.tv or google my name. Or you can ask questions, challenge me with a specific critique, etc. and we can debate. But remember I’m not selling anything — so no more “mall science” remarks about your personal emotional dismissals. “Not being impressed” just displays a mentality of trying to buy something. Clearly the commodity fetish indoctrination is in control.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:26 am
Drew I think I read a theory very similar to yours on a bar of soap once. It was a bar of Dr. Bonner`s magic soap if I am not mistaken. Ha .
Jenn are you doing anything Saturday night.? Maybe a cup of coffee , and we could talk about stuff. I like your attitude. You are my kind of girl.
Alistair, Funny what you said about the wealthy socialite thing and Gurdjieff/Crowley
I am a very big Gurdjieff fan David, as I can tell you are also.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:32 am
Drew even if every thing you are saying is true , what is the ultimate point of what you are saying.? Will what you think change the human condition.? Do you have a proposal to change society.? What would you consider a good society.
Are you familiar with the technocracy movement, and what is your opinion of it.
Just a paragraph will do . Your opinion. ?
Is saving ourselves also saving society.?
October 12th, 2006 at 8:44 am
Hey Hempel, here Pepe3leches, i was wondering why you didn’t appeared here yet. I have a question for you. Dou you think that some kind of “fractal simmetry” could exist?
I mean, do you think there is some kind of technology or logic more accurated to right brain thinking?
October 12th, 2006 at 9:23 am
yeah, it`s called art.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:46 am
um, that’s not what I wrote, or at least that’s not what I meant. I thought you were making a statemnt that people who do not help out are lazy, and I was just saying that it’s not laziness, it’s being overwhelmed. Otherwise I agree with your position.
We are on the internet. When you write to someone, you don’t have a tone or facial expression to go with, making posts appear more hostile than they actually are, and making it easy to miss the point entirely. Telling me to think more critically and accuse me of not reading what you wrote over a slight misunderstanding, and than calling western spiritual people stupid in the next post doesn’t actually make your opinion look wiser to me, in fact it makes you look like a wise-ass.
Skip, you’re a sweet heart. Coffee is great, though I wonder how you would react to the creepy looking Irish/Canadian girl in combat boots who would show up!
October 12th, 2006 at 10:28 am
Skip — you all should drink tea — not coffee — why? Because tea dilates the blood vessels while coffee constricts the blood vessels. I just got back from a cafe, chatting with a long-time acquaintance, and the cafe owner just had heart surgery because of chronic problems (too much coffee drinking). I live in Minnesota and a secret to staying warm is cayenne — which also dilates the blood vessels (the opposite of coffee). So I drank tea because it goes with cayenne.
Now I recommend people practice the “small universe” — anyone can do it — sitting straight or lying down — you can get a C.D. for $11 a http://springforestqigong.com and that will be an hour of guiding you through the 12 harmonic nodes.
I just have a half hour cassette that’s old but I’ll probably get the C.D. Of course sitting in full-lotus is much more direct but it’s necessary to first open up the body channels before anyone can sit in full-lotus for very long.
Now — what’s the practical purpose? — well I said to my unconscious last night that I need to leave my house by 5 am to get an early start on work. I set no alarm yet woke up at 4:30 (after doing full-lotus for about an hour till 12:30 a.m.). I felt fully rested and then started work at 5:30 — after biking through the first snow fall of the season.
Then at work to keep going I just sat in full-lotus while at work. No one was around yet so — pretty sneaky!
The main use for the “small universe” practice is for emotional transformation.
Each emotion is part of an organ of the body — so sadness is lungs (smoking) and kidneys is fear (too much coffee), liver is anger (drinking), heart is over-excited (stroke).
Emotion is the main cause of energy blockage and since healthcare is the Nbr. 1 civilian cost in society — the prevention practice of the small universe is very cost-effective.
Then if you practice enough you can heal others, as I’ve done in the past. It’s just a matter of continuing to keep up practice — or else the body channels close up again.
If you practice enough then the pineal gland is permanently transformed — resonated — so that blissful magnetic force can be felt at will (flexing the pineal gland). I got this far.
If you go farther then the third eye becomes fully open which means you can recharge your energy easily and, most importantly, do long-distant healing.
The open third eye is very rare because it’s preceded by magical powers — telepathy, telekinesis, etc. and it’s too easy to have “heroic over-exuberance” — So the person uses up their powers or gets freaked out or others get freaked out (from the electromagnetic fields emanating from the middle of the brain of the qigong practitioner).
I did this — to understand the true details of opening the third eye I recommend “Miracle healing from China” by qigong grandmaster Effie P. Chow and the books of Master Nan, Huai-chin — a professor in Taiwan.
Then there’s the period of “crazy zen” (this is called qigong fever in China and considering that the Falong Gong movement is now being turned into forced organ donors — qigong fever is a serious concern vis a vis the postmodern late capitalist society). Dr. David A. Palmer has a new book on this — coming out in January (you can preorder it on Amazon UK).
So this natural resonance practice goes against the direction of modern society yet it’s free energy! That’s why it’s the “natural resonance revolution.”
October 12th, 2006 at 10:35 am
Fractals are still based on logarithmic analysis — there is phase distortion in the translation of analog to digital. In fact both analog and digital are logarithmic-based concepts!
The most important fractal is the golden ratio — the slowest converging nonlinear asymmetrical growth pattern. The golden ratio, as a continuous fraction (Pythagorean natural number ratios) is just One divided by One plus One infinitely — which is just the All-Seeing Eye of Freemasonry. The Golden Ratio was the main measurement for the Freemason Gothic Cathedrals (of Da Vinci Code fame).
The Golden Ratio is also the convering limit of the Freemasonic “music logarithmic spiral.” Read the footnotes of the book “Doubt and Certainty” by Tony Rothman and nuclear physicist Professor Sudarshan (1998) to see how the Golden Ratio can be equated with the natural number Harmonic Series 1:2:3:4.
October 12th, 2006 at 10:52 am
Ok drew, thanks!
October 12th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Jenn, I am having virtual coffee with you now. Your combat boots actually seem very attractive to me for some reason . You don`t seem creepy to me at all . In fact I am wondering what you have on under your dress. You tell me you are Irish Canadian , and I say , Oh really , you just seem like an ordinary and attractive female to me. Shall we leave the coffee shop and take a walk.? You look lovely in the fall air.
October 12th, 2006 at 1:55 pm
Drew , I also drink tea. Thanks for the reminder. I usually have a cup of the green stuff a day. I love it. As to the rest of what you are talking about no doubt it may make sense to someone.
I was wondering what you thought of the technocracy movement.? That was my question. Could you answer that in a paragraph or so.? I am involved with this movement.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:11 pm
Jenn,
Free of any derision I again reiterate that you read my posts more carefully, including the first one with the quotation–for your own benefit. You seem to be confused both about what it says, along with what I said, and you seem to conflate it with what someone else has posted here, not me.
Seperate the rational from the personal. You seem like a nice person but if you are going to have a serious discussion about something, try to be clear on what is being discussed.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:48 pm
hahahah, you guys are hilarious!
okay, do another one!
October 12th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
The Technocracy literature on your website (that you wrote?) — anyway it reads as great spoof material (as does my writing as well so this isn’t a ‘put down’).
The difference is that my analysis relies on nonlinear quantum chaos — the new scientific FACT that complex systems can not predict the future and also that complex systems have self-organizing properties.
Self-organizing means that science has returned to shamanism — the whole transhumanist movement is really a religion, founded by the Theosophist Julian Huxley. Transhumanists would never admit this, but such is the case with all technophilia. In other words technology IS a conspiracy because science has realized that the computers are in control (and in fact humans never were in control).
My customized antidote for your particular case is the book “The Religion of Technology” by Professor David F. Noble (1996 while he was at M.I.T.).
October 12th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
who/what was in control before computers, farm implements and metal stamping plants? it`s not that i disagree about the computers but you say that humans were never in control. what were we not in control of and what was, or is nothing ever in control?
i entertain the thought that computers and what they control are an emerging consciousness. following that line to it`s conclusion means an uncomfortable end to meat bags.
October 12th, 2006 at 6:03 pm
i wanted to add that i don`t think a computer brain would necessarily have the moral and ethical issues that we do over cloning, nanotechnlogy, etc. that we do.
October 12th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
Well Drew I have to say I like your style. Substance I am so sure about , but I do believe with all my heart that you are funny. ~!~ I think you may have given me the most funny compliment I have gotten in a long time. You are absolutely right in your opinion that my writing cover on this site is spoofing the system. Serious spoofing of course.
I think I am beginning to understand you a little now. Your mind operates in a kind of like throwing up a deck of cards in the air , and then photographing it. All the interesting and strange cards are then presented at the same time from their random position and then explained in rapid fire.
No doubt it makes sense in a holistic way, or at least it might seem to if a person had studied the many noodling varieties of thinking of things , as you apparently have.
Good show man. I might suggest a one man theatre presentation . You on a stage , but also interacting with an audience.
Like the random picture of a deck of interesting cards being thrown in the air , photographed, and then discussed. Bully .
I live here in Mpls myself. There is a lot of theatre here. Have you ever considered an idea like that.?
Could I suggest a chapter to you in my book Drew. It is called , I am the price system. Chapt. 6 page 40. You could read it right on the site or download it as a file. I would be curious as to your opinion on that chapter in particular.
Thanks.
October 12th, 2006 at 7:59 pm
Ah yes — who was in control before us (and our machines)? This is the Red Pill question (which even the Matrix movie doesn’t answer!) This question is the secret of nondualism — also called panpsychic materialism (supported by Sir Karl Popper and Sir John Eccles). Nondualism means that through logical inference, only consciousness is real.
Now, as Boucher has pointed out, the Self is everything — all our connections. But left-brain logic, the foundation for all analysis of “everything” is grounded in the logical source of the I-thought.
This is very simple actually — all our thoughts are premised on this “I”-thought thinking all our thoughts.
No belief is necessary — so as an experiment repeat I-I-I for maybe half an hour (in a quite place). Keep practicing!
Now there is a discovery of consciousness beyond spacetime — consciousness that creates telepathy, telekinesis, etc.
But that’s just inductive evidence which is subjective (even though it’s even been verified in the “quasi-telepathy” of quantum electronics).
Still, through logical inference, there is proof for the Self as the source of the I-thought. This isn’t an experiment for technology — this is the logical foundation of science!!
Or we must conclude that we are automatons? Where is the I-thought when in deep dreamless sleep? Are we just automatons of the automatic nervous system? When we awake the first thing that flashes in our brain is the I-thought.
This quantum chaos consciousness resonating in our brain is called the “binding” problem in neuroscience — and it’s been solved! Just read Dr. Llinas Rodolfo’s recent book “I of the Vortex” (he’s at NYU).
Anyway analysis of logic relies on mathematics — analytic philosophy is what it’s called — or in linguistics it’s again called “I-language” by Chomsky. Chomsky’s analysis is crucial to quantum computing — the latest in analytic philosophy is “quantum logic.”
Chomsky argues that math is the foundation for a universal genetic I-language (but there’s some challenges to his mathematics since calculus is limited).
Still his general structure — of the triadic syntax or zeugma is correct. Why? Because math (based on logic mind you!) is actually created from:
TRIADIC Music Harmonic Ratios! Natural Numbers used to create the foundation of Western Math Logic — the Pythagorean Theorem — came from MUSIC RATIOS — the triad of 1:2 and 2:3 and 3:4.
So if you read the book “Stalking the Riemann Hypothesis” (2005) — the latest Number Theory book — it details how unified field science aka quantum chaos — is derived from Number Theory — with Natural Numbers (the prime numbers as the table of elements of math) arising from the:
Harmonic Series of Music: 1:2:3:4.
But read the promo for this new quantum chaos number theory book. Professor Steve Strogatz states (on the hard cover edition) that the Riemann Hypothesis is “a conspiracy between nature and number, between atom and arithmetic.” (this was after he and I corresponded about my conspiracy analysis of science).
Why a conspiracy? Because the Riemann Hypothesis can not be proved and even if it could no one would understand the logic of the computers. This computer take over of logic has already occurred in math, as Strogatz has detailed, freely readable online, and the logic takeover by computers is spreading from math — the foundation for all of science.
In fact there IS no logical (left-brain) axiom for WHY the natural numbers create the prime number series — FROM THE HARMONIC SERIES.
Except for one reason — the quantum chaos natural numbers create “asymmetric time reversal” whereby One plus One does not equal Two (Alain Connes noncommutative geometry).
Now the latest in math totally contradicts what everyone’s been taught: one plus one equals two.
Not true anymore!!
But in music theory 2:3=3:4 (because of the asymmetric time reversal).
1:2=2:3. Alain Connes in his book “Triangle of Thoughts” (2001) states that music theory provides the formal language to understand quantum logic.
But this music natural resonance is BEFORE the Pythagorean Theorem — and based on the inference of left-brain logic as the SELF (consciousness as FORMLESS AWARENESS).
So Vedic Philosophy (and Buddhist philosophy) is actually more sophisticated than western logic. But the Kashmir Saivism is just Pythagoreanism (using reality as a vibrating formless string of consciousness — instead of emphasis on left-brain logic of the Self).
Humans exist WITHIN a 4th dimension of space as formless consciousness — proven through logical inference of the I-thought! Science is based on inductive evidence from deduction through “proof by contradiction” (or ORDER OF OUT CHAOS — Freemasonry).
Inference transcends science — yet it’s still logical. This foundation of inference is why both Kurt Godel and Wittgenstein left or transcended western science.
The Music Connection is ALWAYS left out (consider Mario Livio’s Golden Ratio book which ignores the Harmonic Music basis for the proof of the Golden Ratio).
You can read my blog for more details: http://drewhempel.gnn.tv
Sir Karl Popper stated that RESONANCE GOVERNS ALL OF REALITY.
Yet Resonance is not “mathematizable.”
OK — ecology is left-hand carbon-based molecules (EARTH).
Science is left-brain and RIGHT-HAND technology (Metal) transforming left-hand carbon into right-hand silica Alife (through desertification as FIRE).
Water is the pivot point because it’s a macro quantum molecule due to it’s Tetrahedron free energy resonance — a pyramid of 4 equilateral triangles — each made of two 3:4:5 Pythagorean Triangles (with 3:4 as YIN and 4:5 as 5:4 being the cube root of two).
In otherwords 5:4 as the cube root of two is the conversion of formless consciousness resonating from the One (of 1:2:3:4:5) — into 3-dimensional spacetime.
By sitting in full-lotus (a tetrahedron) you can cause an asymmetric time reversal!
That which doesn’t change is the nonlocal consciousness or formless awareness that is the foundation for telepathy, etc.
This is why “No One Can Know the Tao.”
October 12th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Let me give another example — about the Golden Ratio and left-brain language.
So the logical axiom for the golden ratio — in its first form is as follows. A is to B as B is to A plus B. In natural numbers this is 1 is to 2 as 2 is to 3. But in music theory the resonance of 2 to 3 equals 3 to 4 so that 2:3 equals C to G while 3:4 equals G to C. A is to B is now C is to G with C to G as 2:3 and G to C as 3:4. So while 1:2:3 for the Harmonic Series fits the logical axiom it’s same logical symbols also equal 3:4 — and yet it’s the Law of Pythagoras! (It’s true that C to G as 2:3 equals G to C as 3:4)
In left-brain logic there needs to be an “equipartition principle” for phonetic letters to number aka Freemasonic Gematria. But in nonwestern music theory the ratios are COMPLIMENTARY OPPOSITES through asymmetric resonance of emotional desire. Music IS desire. 2 is the Female Number and 3 is the Male Number with One not being a Number and 2 a reflection of eternal empty awareness.
But in music theory (and in quantum logic) the equipartition principle is violated so that G and C (as A and B) transcend standardized “proof by contradiction.”
Since the golden ratio is One as the All Seeing Eye (in continuous ratio form) — it’s logical proof in gematria (A is to B….) is actually equivalent to the harmonic series symbols (C to G equals 2:3 and G to C equals 3:4) as the infinite spiral of fifths: C:G:D:A:E:B:F#:C#— back to C (as a higher value).
Music theory is taught as a “circle of fifths” — based on axiomatic “proof by contradiction” logic — whereby the resonance is “contained” into the square root of two — the Pythagorean Theorem with 12 times the square root of two giving the resonance of 2:3 (as the Fifth).
So the Tetrad Law of Pythagoras or 1:2:3:4 connects the Golden Ratio with the Pythagorean Theorem — as One equaling the I-thought.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:28 pm
What the HELL are you talking about? I have faithfully approved all comments that you posted on my site, so simmer down and play nice.
And I guess at this point it’s too late to respectfully ask that the conversation move back in the direction of the subject matter of this post: the ecology of the self?
October 12th, 2006 at 11:20 pm
Thanks, Gyrus! That really solidified something for me. I want to try and address this elsewhere…
October 12th, 2006 at 11:21 pm
Oh man, this part is awesome:
Thanks for that, Drew!
October 12th, 2006 at 11:22 pm
Wouldn’t it be polyamorous relationships, plural?
October 12th, 2006 at 11:23 pm
David, is that really necessary? Perhaps you could consider that the point you thought was so clear may not be to others!
And this, well this IS totally unnecessary:
October 12th, 2006 at 11:25 pm
So then, the proper place to have these debates would be on your website, then, right? Rather than mine?
If you’re not selling anything, then why have you suggested like five times that we visit your website?
October 12th, 2006 at 11:26 pm
Skip, I think these are great questions for all of us who get caught in endless theorizing:
October 12th, 2006 at 11:28 pm
Drew how to you plan on integrating your information in the real world.? Does any one but yourself understand what you are talking about.?
Are you formulating all this into a recipe for saving the world.?, or improving it.?
Or is it kind of like just playing with a yo yo.? You just do it for fun.?
Does it all lead to reforming society.?
October 13th, 2006 at 5:26 am
OK as I stated in my original post (that was never posted on this blog entry), David Abram only formally analyzes semitic language without going back to P.I.E. — Proto-IndoEuropean. That’s what I’ve done above. As I stated in my original post (that was never posted), Greek was originally written right to left and in Sumerian the letter “A” came from an upside down Bull’s Head — while in Vedic India Brahmin means Bull. GOTT is the Indo-European root for GOD and GOTT means “BULL” as does Brahmin — BULL. The latest anthropology research argues that Patriarchy started with the domestication of cattle. In Vedic India Iron replaced Silver (the Female-Lunar ritual sacrifice currency). Iron literally became more valuable as a currency than silver because why?
Freemasonic warfare technology with iron was more valuable. The technology (like chariots and latter catapults) was all designed with MUSIC RATIO THEORY.
The Lyre was the crucial right-brain tool for language — historical records through SONG (right brain memorization). The Lyre was a hand-held harp.
In parting I will state again that my blog is “old” — not active since June or so and even then I had only returned after a request by one of the posters on that website http://guerrillanews.com. I’ve continued to have “conversations” online at various websites — forums, blogs, etc.
So I don’t have a website — nor have I ever had a website!
October 13th, 2006 at 9:42 am
http://www.mentalhelp.net/books/books.php?type=de&id=744
!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2006 at 9:51 am
Drew , you have already repeated the above formulation at least once. Could you address what I have asked you .? What is your plan.? Or do you have a plan.?
What is the next step.? How does this relate to the ecology of man and self , for the future.? Could you formulate an answer that is short and sweet.?
October 13th, 2006 at 11:23 am
drew, you are very obviously a genius with a firm grasp on your synaptic pathways, but what you are saying makes no sense to we unwashed masses. Could you explain perhaps in simple, monosyllabic terminology how your various theories relate to Tim’s original post?
October 13th, 2006 at 2:23 pm
The Plan: Radical ecology relies on biomimicry technology — i.e. replacing plastic with corn, etc. — but the overall direction of technology is A.I. silica nanotechnology using quantum chaos aka complexity analysis.
As I’ve stated quantum chaos — by definition — is controlled by computers and the future of quantum chaos can not be predicted. But the overall form of technology can be predicted and this future form is increasing use of silica-based self-organizing technology or A.I. developed with increasing use of photonics — holographic superconducting quantum computing.
So these technologies are being promoted as shamanic spirituality through Coast to Coast and the CIA (read “The Stargate Conspiracy” by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince). Or just google my name “drew hempel” with quantum chaos and you get details on these technologies. It’s not theoretical.
In fact “nanowater” and its related byproducts — silica DNA biochips — are part of the Neo Nazi Homeland Security “actual matrix plan.”
Keep in mind that in the 1930s eugenics went hand in hand with sanitation as “progressive” technology — growing the “man crop.”
Nonlinear results of technology means that there is increasing feedback that is increasingly unstable — the apocalypse is a structural result of deepening disharmony of logarithmic-based technology. Gaia has gone into Chaos — that’s a stated fact of science.
So read the book “Nanotechnology and Homeland Security” (2005) by the top nanotech scientists. For our protection we will be hooked up to satellites (through implants) so that our blood molecular structure can be instanteously transformed — signaled by any one person targeted by terrorists.
In fact the goal is to use the human brain (the most sophisticated parallel processing network) for quantum computing technology — i.e. the actual matrix plan.
Again this is “evolution” for structural reasons, not the conceptual choice of a cabal — it’s based on the cycling of the elements (Earth to Fire through Metal and Water). This “plan” will be accepted by the masses as “progressive” — just as Egyptology is really a Freemason scheme to promote a psychological return to some lost golden age through quantum chaos technology. It’s a scam — Egypt was a serf state — not some utopia — and as I’ve demonstrated the Golden Ratio as the All Seeing Eye was not really based on the phonetic, left-brain logic of Gematria. Egypt relied on harmonics — but it was not as it taught in all the Egyptology CIA propaganda which conflates the irrational, logarithmic mathematics with the natural number, right-brain algebraic geometry of Egypt.
So how to best confront this ecological crisis?
What’s “my” plan — instead of “the” plan of the CIA-Freemasons?
Again it’s a deepening of harmonic-based Tai-Chi-Yoga-Qigong.
Sitting in full-lotus is completely practical and based on the Law of Pythagoras as 1:2:3:4! Maintaining emotional health while being able to process the conceptual lies of empire is the plan.
The plan is facing the truth — the logical source of science is “empty awareness” — the Cosmic Mother — beyond right and wrong, beyond “me” and “you,” beyond left and right, etc.
We exist within Nature. Nature can take care of herself!
Does this mean we should not do radical ecology activism? No — but it means there’s no reason to be fanatical about it (which becomes just an excuse for further crackdown).
Again the “plan” is that humans exist within a larger cycling of elements — derived from the inherent asymmetry in science and logic (left-brain asymmetry and the asymmetry of right-hand logarithmic-based technology).
A good book to read that understands this larger asymmetric dynamic of science is Stan Gooch’s book “Total Man.”
October 13th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
Here’s details on “the plan” that I’ve posted recently:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=75352
October 13th, 2006 at 2:36 pm
And again, please relate your replies back to the original post, as per my commenting guidelines, or else I will seriously consider censoring you:
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/posting-guidelines/
I’m happy to have you contributing, but this should be considered as a directed conversation, not a free for all.
October 13th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
Tim — you’ve already censored me (my original post has never been put on this blog!) Go ahead and censor me more — fear tactics do not work.
It’s common for the new “self-censorship” M.O. of the idiot-net to not understand how my analysis is interconnected. My masters thesis linked at http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm is called “Epicenters of Justice: Music theory, sound-current nondualism and radical ecology.”
Those three concepts are what this blog post is about — The Self is nondualism, radical ecology and the relation of logic to language.
I have nothing more to say so maybe you should remove what I’ve written so far.
That would be no different than what Tibetan Monks do with the Mandalas they create and I would consider it a blessing.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:11 pm
I’ve said it before and I will say it again. I have not censored anything you’ve written.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
O.K. I think I get you now.
The whole thing is out of control .
It is going to get worse, and one way to deal with it is to drink a little green tea, and meditate, and also sit in the lotus position.
In other words the shit is going to hit the fan, this can`t be stopped, so remove yourself from in front of the fan, go off to the side somewhere, watch the party, and participate also. We are being lied to constantly , but in the end , things may work out, but don`t trust authority as to the system of current power possessor’s.
Why didn`t you just say so in the first place.? Is that pretty much it.?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:09 pm
hahaha, i think skip’s hit the nail on the head. why use 20,000 words to say something that can be expressed in six?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:26 pm
Tim, thank you. That was an excellent piece, truly stimulating and tying in to a lot of things I’ve observed in my praxis. One thing that it jogged in my memory - that the original meaning of the Proto-Indo-European root word for the verb ‘To Be’ literally meant, ‘To be lost in the woods’. Perhaps in the sense of being detached from all aspects of Self carried by others, thus able to truly experience Selfness in the simplest sense?
October 13th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
typical po-mo, New Age wanker stuff.
Sit in FULL lotus 2 hours minimum a day (only then can you fight off all the people trying to make their moves on your fine ass).
I’m going for an all night full-lotus data entry marathon. Let’s see what happens.
http://springforestqigong.com
October 14th, 2006 at 7:43 am
Hey Drew, Visual language is something reported from psychedelic scene so far … let’see, internet is the exteriorization if the mind and that interchange of emoticons/graphics etc. can be seen as an exteriorization of that part of the mind. Sure you know about the links between color/shape and chemistry in the brain — i remember you talking in one post about picasso and the blue period and the so.
So the interchange of graphics can be seen too as a new kind of comunication not guided by left-brain logic. A kinda of materialization of the archetypes — the wathever.
And so, what the hell , you have cited too Leonard Slain and all that stuff, so i’m not telling anything new to you now
Hempel, you fool !!!!
October 14th, 2006 at 9:51 am
I think Drew is an optimist in general.
Sort of a heady brew of a smarter Ray Kurzweil, and a wandering Buddha combined. I am sure if Drew could have a personalized transportation vehicle , it would be a digitized flying carper, that was made out of recycled corn husks.
This would actually look like a flying carpet with a colorful garden of Eden motif , combined with a figure of a bull in the design.
I can see him now in full lotus flying to the data entry marathon.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:55 am
hahaha
October 14th, 2006 at 9:55 pm
Has Shlain got his new book out yet? I was practically writing it for him with my piercing questions and comments about his hang-ups on his forum. He’s response to me — oh, that’s going to be in my new book.
Always glad to be that conspiratorial meme. I did it to Daniel Pinchbeck when he stated — oh that’s going to be in the new edition of my book. haha.
OK so Silicon Valley has the highest density of toxic waste dumps in the world.
That’s just manufacturing. Then there’s increase in electricity use (sky rocket) and increase in Orwellian control, etc.
The internet is all part of the Matrix Plan.
But check how how China is knocking out the West’s satelllites already!
There’s too much space trash as well.
These are the called the “diminishing rate of return of technology” (Hazel Henderson).
Transhumanists are correct — but they’ll never admit that Julian Huxley, who coined the term “transhumanist” was a Theosophist who worked closely with Aurobindo and Oliver L. Reiser.
So we all get implanted (or zone out as boob tubes with cell phones).
Left-brain — right-brain — neither are the answer.
the right brain turns into the left-brain of the cerebellum.
Then the cerebellum is what Camille Paglia calls the “4th eye” — the UnDead Consciousness of Nefertiti.
You know — the ultimate Femme Fatale driving the cold, glitter of gold-silver apocalypse.
So we have more sex and more techno-fetish.
That’s our “heaven in a chip.”
But we are not humans anymore, nor are we “liberated.”
We are slaves to the machine.
gotta get back to my data entry.
We never were human. — Humanism is a lie!!
the machine-god of the Matrix is a lie!!
Only the Formless is always-already peaceful truth.
Awareness is it’s own Self.
People get too attached to the bliss!!
Bliss is not the answer.
Truth is the answer - bliss is just temporary and causes disharmony.
Who is it that experiences bliss?
There is LOGIC to sound. The irony of inference is the logic of formless awareness.
Inference of the I-thought — repeating I-I-I to seek its source — is beyond bliss, beyond the body and the eternal liberation is
KILLING THE MIND!!
THE MIND MUST BE KILLED. This is stated very explicitly by Sri Ramana Maharshi.
Or else the spirit is just reborn in another karmic form.
Once the UnDead is created then eternal liberation AS CONSCIOUSNESS is achieved.
That’s who “we” are — not sound not vision — but the source of both — based on LOGIC.
October 15th, 2006 at 7:31 am
Shit, hempel, this is your last incarnation ? But, ok, this is what i don’t get from your ideas. You say that we must return to earth, without technology? Became again hunters-gatherers and the so? What’s the next step in your oppinion drew?
October 15th, 2006 at 9:26 am
Kurt Godel spent the latter part of his life practicing self-enquiring. Repeating the I-I-I over and over to seek its source — this was discovered by Rudy Rucker and detailed in his “Infinity and the Mind” book.
Kurt Godel also helped out Einstein by discovering that one solution to general relativity is that the whole universe as TIME is spinning. This same idea has been proposed for a universe model — that what we see of the universe is the Event-Horizon of a black hole while what we don’t see is the information within the black hole itself. Spacetime spins into the blackhole and then the blackhole “evaporates” off energy to create matter.
So by repeating I-I-I over again we create a vortex of spacetime. Time spins since One is Not a Number! One resonates as consciousness that creates the I-thought and as such is beyond any “steps of the future.”
October 15th, 2006 at 10:07 am
Ok Drew, you have achieved some kind of cosmic omniscience, i’m not gonna to discuss it at all– but again, for us sticked on matter and trapped on the linear model of time … what the hell should we do in your oppinion ? Go all full lotus and resonate? What we do with technology?
October 15th, 2006 at 11:15 am
Here’s what I do: 1) ride a bike 2) no phone (the FBI just tapped it anyway when I had one) 3) no t.v. (it’s all CIA lies induced in the trance state) 4) read a scholarly book a day — to cheap logic primed and to hunt down strange imaginal realms more bizarre than fiction — truth is stranger! These are obtained in libraries, thrift stores, used book stores, new book stores and cafes. 5) Run into people by accident (known from activist demos, past jobs, etc.) tell them about the latest CIA propaganda and receive similar insights — debate with them, and generally shoot the shit 6) Sit in full lotus at any locale with a booth (table covers up the full-lotus from general view) — this can be done at Burger King (diverse, bizarre energy) or at the local anarchist cafe, Hard Times, or at McDonalds or on the floor in libraries, bookstores (discreet locations). 7) If you can’t sit in full-lotus then practice the small universe, the 12 music notes along the outside of the body, to open up the body channels — the C.D. is $11 plus $4 shipping as the Level One sitting meditation. http://springforestqigong.com and then practice “the moving of Yin and Yang.” — stand with knees bent, legs just wider than shoulders. Put left hand in front of crotch and right hand in front of forehead. Slowly move the hands up and down so they switch positions and then just keep cycling. The two hands and upper/lower body have complimentary opposite energies so that a feedback cycle — a vortex — is created.
Practical stuff — like job costs, family, etc. has to happen but try to focus on activist stuff for practical stuff (so I encouraged friends to email the PRI government so they didn’t invade Oaxaca and I wrote an op-ed on how Cargill was replacing the Brain of Earth (the Amazon) with Silica-Soybeans (now Cargill claims to boycott soy grown in newly cleared rainforest). 9) Increasingly rely on “the consciousness” — this Female Empty Awareness — to guide you with energy, information — literally everything. We exist within this Cosmic Womb-Tomb and that’s the truth!
October 15th, 2006 at 12:16 pm
As I suspected Drew is suggesting that we all goof around and have fun.
Keep an eye out for the brain police , and lead our own form of ethical life.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
keep an eye out for the brain police………i see your point, but i have always thought that if such a system was that resolved we wouldn`t have much of a chance anyway…….so we may as well just goof around and have fun. what would happen if we did get a clear look at one of these brain police anyway? it reminds me of when we were kids and people were carrying bags of pot around and seeing cops everywhere.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:39 pm
As this link details — even in the mid-1990s the FBI links political organizations to cult behavior because of “block voting.”
Social scientists were funded by the CIA to “prove” that communists were insane, thereby giving legal right to shut down the Communists in NYC.
Not that Communists aren’t insane — civilization is insane as well.
Psychiatry is controlled by the CIA and everyone is indoctrinated.
http://www.ex-iwp.org/docs/1993/ross_green_waco_report.htm
October 15th, 2006 at 7:49 pm
from http://whatreallyhappened.com — 10-14-06 the LSD-CIA experiments continue!
Padilla Update: Bush has been Torturing American Citizens since 2002
Padilla was taken into custody on May 8, 2002 at Chicago’s O’ Hare Airport by Federal agents and placed in solitary confinement. He was stripped of his constitutionally-guaranteed rights and forbidden to see an attorney. He was detained as a material witness although Attorney General John Ashcroft accused him publicly of being a “dirty bomber”; alleging that he was planning to detonate a nuclear device within the United States. He was not charged with a crime.
For the next 4 years he was isolated, tortured and used as a lab-rat in drug experiments with LSD and other mind-altering hallucinogens. To date, the government has never produced a scintilla of evidence proving that Padilla is guilty of anything. Still, no attorney, no court, and no law have been able to set him free. The entire system has buckled under the load of imperial power leaving every American exposed to the capricious actions of the president.