http://www.highintelligence.com/OS%20012intheory.html

Here’s a great “Book by its cover” double bind. There’s a little communist bookstore in Minneapolis that hardly anyone shops at so the bookstore collective has to sell “free returnable” books (that way that store doesn’t buy the books upfront). But since their free returnable books the Commies can’t read any of the other radical ideology books (anarchism, primitivism, conspiracy, etc.) because the commies might get the books dirty. But no one will shop there because the collective sits down there loudly arguing about whether stalin still has merit versus the utopia of Cuba, etc. Yet most of the time the volunteer running the store sits behind this tall “stazi” (E. Germany secret police) type desk — poised to convert any potential customers who never show up (since the commies are dependent on capitalist distribution to stock their store they sit there yet can’t read their books that might cause a change in the)…..

It’s the ultimate Beckett play — these people are my closest friends of course.

Order the “small universe” CD — level one sitting meditation ($11) — and you get free energy so you don’t need commodity fetish junk.

Wait, you you have to BUY something in order to overcome “commodity fetish junk”?

I hope you realize what a delicious double-bind that is!

What do you think of the Moog as a good or bad instrument.?
Did you ever think of your writing in the context I am talking about.? In the grunge band did you yell a lot.? Can you yell ? , and do you have a strong voice in general.?
Have you thought of yelling out your thoughts to a soundtrack .?

I am not a Plato fan. I love Isocrates though , and also Demosthenes, who was probably the most talented talker of all time.

Brilliant what you said here about Schizos and children , negation , the contradiction of trying to love a parent you don`t like. . Ha Ha. The double bind aspect of that.

I used to be a musician — I was trained in classical piano performance, and played in a hardcore grunge-rock band, in a reggae band, in a bluegrass-blues duo, in a vocal choir, in a jazz band, in a string quartet and I was accepted into a music composition major at UW-Madison.

So I’ve already done the music thing and I promote NONWESTERN music (although I’ll listen to the “nostalgia” stuff — western tuning was created by Plato as the most important means of mind control).

Have you thought about putting any of your writing to music.? I think it has potential as a kind of abstracted free form poetry of warning. Definitely protest poetry. I can imagine it with thrashing power chords and feedback. Some of it being yelled .

One of most classic double binds is the sexual one , depending on .
I can have sex , but is it worth it, and will I regret it with a certain person.
Our judgement is clouded and distorted with lust. The thrill of doing it in the moment, overwhelms.
When it is over , sometimes we say to ourselves, why the hell did I do that.?
Then next week we do the same thing over again. If you do it it will be fun, if you do it you may regret it.
An old joke. What do you do after sex, ? Go home.

Inference is a projection of logic that is open ended but when it’s in western science the inference is closed because the logic of science is based on deduction through axioms. So logarithmic math is a deductive system — based on the square root of two as the structure for the equal-spacing of the measurements from which predictions are made and evidence is collected, etc.

Inference would be an unpredictable discovery of a NEW deduction system — like instead of the square root of two use the differential of calculus!!

But inference of the I-thought is open in terms of infinity. All phonetic language is premised on this I-thought as the inferred source of all thought.

Where does the I-thought go when in deep dreamless sleep? We can INFER that the source of the I-thought is still the “I” — our subjective Self as consciousness.

Then we can practice inference by repeating I-I-I as a logical investigation to find the source — assumed to exist based on inference.

That’s called “vichara” or self-enquiry in Vedic philosophy.

Adaptive complex systems are social engineering systems used to govern behavior.

The analysis is built using analog circuits that have feedback built into the system on more than one level.

These are called “neural networks.” So if you google “complex adaptive systems” you see it’s being used to predict social behavior under different conditions.

For example the book by Dr. Andrew Parker “In the Blink of an Eye” is about the “Cambrian Explosion” that created a huge explosion in life on Earth — 365 million years ago.

What caused the explosion was the development of the EYE through quantum diffraction gradients — the same different grooves in your C.D. that causes it to make rainbows.

So once the lense developed into a 3-D form — connected to neurons — then a whole new signalling system exploded and life rapidly expanded.

The military is taking the preconditions for the explosion in “evolution” and transfering it to another neuron system — using analog circuits — but then applying those circuits to current “life” conditions in society.

A Double Bind is a problem of “logical type” — you have to go to a “larger set” of information in order to solve the problem.

Creating another level of deeper circuit feedback — the 3-D Eye — enabled a “double bind” in nature to be overcome (the neuron feedback of electrochemical signals).

Voila! Cambrian Explosion.

Voila! Post-Apocalyptic Civilization.

In fact inference is the gateway to the subconsiousness that solves all double binds!!

What do you mean by inference and how does that solve all double binds?

The logic to control this new solutions to double binds is binary “adaptive complex systems” — that resonate through self-organization.

Please explain in simpler terms, assuming we’re not all on your level

Bateson is considered the founder of “social systems theory” which is basically using neural networks that build on binary logic — just as you’ve described.

So your post is actually a rehash of Bateson’s work!

Now the problem with neural networks is that binary logic still works on the premise of a closed system — contained within an axiom, the first being “I Am that I Am.”

But then, as we’ve discussed, what is the source of the I-thought? In fact inference is the gateway to the subconsiousness that solves all double binds!!

But in the West this inference is used to build more invasive technology so — “terrorist mind” — no problem, a “brain fingerprint” reader aka an MRI in airports and courtrooms will solve the problem!

So Batesons’ whole “progressive” hippy dream (funded by the CIA) has no “evolved” into the Orwellian new microchips for treating disease (Cyberonics) and microchips for illegal aliens and prisoners (VeriChip) and microchips to protect us against terrorists (Biodefense Shield).

The logic to control this new solutions to double binds is binary “adaptive complex systems” — that resonate through self-organization.

No one controls them!! That’s the ultimate double bind solution that Gregory Bateson could not solve — he goes back to Pythagoras but wasn’t really a Pythagorean as I detail in my masters thesis: http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm