Comments on: The Internet Makes You A Terrorist http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:27:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Fell the Don http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/comment-page-1/#comment-23822 Fell the Don Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:45:03 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/#comment-23822 Now that I totally dig. Good to see you're still going hard. Cheers! <blockquote>Well put, Fell! I guess my approach to it was through the idea of the double-bind: don’t take the bait of the trap, but back away until you can contextualize in a larger sense, and wrap your arms around the greater situation!</blockquote> Now that I totally dig. Good to see you’re still going hard. Cheers!

Well put, Fell! I guess my approach to it was through the idea of the double-bind: don’t take the bait of the trap, but back away until you can contextualize in a larger sense, and wrap your arms around the greater situation!

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]]> By: Fell the Don http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/comment-page-1/#comment-23813 Fell the Don Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:59:54 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/#comment-23813 If you've not become radicalised, or can acknowledge the affects of such an article on yourself, then why does this become such news? We choose to observe and react to the an infinite amount of stimuli in our environment and the ones that rile us are the ones that reflect who we are. That, in turn, can illustrate our own perceptual limitations and will define us. By polarising yourself from what they're trying to do, you explicitly radicalise yourself by being <em>not that</em>. Becoming opposed, as such, may seem to indicate a difference, but its the binary nature of it that actually defines the reaction as <em>part</em> of a whole that includes the apparent problem you are reacting against. According to not only myth, but to the likes of Ramsey Dukes, Grant Morrison, and many others we're familiar with, to escape the trappings of being polarised — and, in turn, being defined by others — it takes an embrace of what we fear/hate in order to understand it. Through the process of the monomyth, we all enter a Dark Night of the Soul and emerge a master of both worlds: elevated to look down upon the characteristics of both sides of the argument as two parts of the same whole. If you’ve not become radicalised, or can acknowledge the affects of such an article on yourself, then why does this become such news? We choose to observe and react to the an infinite amount of stimuli in our environment and the ones that rile us are the ones that reflect who we are. That, in turn, can illustrate our own perceptual limitations and will define us.

By polarising yourself from what they’re trying to do, you explicitly radicalise yourself by being not that. Becoming opposed, as such, may seem to indicate a difference, but its the binary nature of it that actually defines the reaction as part of a whole that includes the apparent problem you are reacting against.

According to not only myth, but to the likes of Ramsey Dukes, Grant Morrison, and many others we’re familiar with, to escape the trappings of being polarised — and, in turn, being defined by others — it takes an embrace of what we fear/hate in order to understand it. Through the process of the monomyth, we all enter a Dark Night of the Soul and emerge a master of both worlds: elevated to look down upon the characteristics of both sides of the argument as two parts of the same whole.

]]> By: Abbas: Send in the Technocrats! - Pop Occulture Blog http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/comment-page-1/#comment-23811 Abbas: Send in the Technocrats! - Pop Occulture Blog Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:59:35 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/#comment-23811 [...] Another one for the “I told you so” files…. Have you heard Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas’ recent comments? Evidently he has openly declared that he would like to see a temporary government of technocratcs come in and solve his region’s problems. “A government of technocrats would be the simplest and most practical solution,” Abbas told journalists in the West Bank city of Ramallah. [...] [...] Another one for the “I told you so” files…. Have you heard Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas’ recent comments? Evidently he has openly declared that he would like to see a temporary government of technocratcs come in and solve his region’s problems. “A government of technocrats would be the simplest and most practical solution,” Abbas told journalists in the West Bank city of Ramallah. [...]

]]> By: Gnomely http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/comment-page-1/#comment-23809 Gnomely Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:54:06 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/#comment-23809 Yeah, I have been spiritualized by the internet. Spiritualized is a great band too! Not making any sense let me say, TaoZenDada, Gnostic Jesus, and spirituality is outside/inside you do not need the internet when the heart is in a poetic building. But the internet was gasoline that lit my inner sparklers.---It has been an educational delight to discover and read the perspectives online that ate my perspective alive and pooped out a new perspective.. For example I agree "happy is to practice the yoga of renouncing one's own country" Milarepa <blockquote> "happy is to practice the yoga of renouncing one's own country"</blockquote> Sorry, America my love is for life not for ugly nationalist state! And America has really let itself go- with all the war, and lies, and delusions, and illegal wiretapping, and torture. But I wish all Americans a happy Halloween and suggest they watch Night of the Creeps!!!! Yeah, I have been spiritualized by the internet. Spiritualized is a great band too! Not making any sense let me say, TaoZenDada, Gnostic Jesus, and spirituality is outside/inside you do not need the internet when the heart is in a poetic building. But the internet was gasoline that lit my inner sparklers.—It has been an educational delight to discover and read the perspectives online that ate my perspective alive and pooped out a new perspective.. For example I agree “happy is to practice the yoga of renouncing one’s own country” Milarepa

“happy is to practice the yoga of renouncing one’s own country”

Sorry, America my love is for life not for ugly nationalist state! And America has really let itself go- with all the war, and lies, and delusions, and illegal wiretapping, and torture. But I wish all Americans a happy Halloween and suggest they watch Night of the Creeps!!!!

]]> By: J. http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/comment-page-1/#comment-23799 J. Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:59:47 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/#comment-23799 It's all been leading up to this point: the inevitable crackdown on internet freedom. Whether it's sexual predators, rapists on MySpace or mysterious "terrorist" websites (without IP addresses, I guess), the powers-that-be have been conditioning us to view the internet with fear. We need them to make laws to protect us and especially, the innocent children, right? It’s all been leading up to this point: the inevitable crackdown on internet freedom. Whether it’s sexual predators, rapists on MySpace or mysterious “terrorist” websites (without IP addresses, I guess), the powers-that-be have been conditioning us to view the internet with fear. We need them to make laws to protect us and especially, the innocent children, right?

]]> By: skip sievert http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/comment-page-1/#comment-23798 skip sievert Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:26:48 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/#comment-23798 The scene in the last 6 years has developed that our government, being backed onto its heels, seems to be turning on us , as it has turned on people that oppose it elsewhere also. This trend dates from the late 1940`s but has accelerated now. It would seem that the overwhelming desire is to preserve what the politicos consider the status normal , rather than try creative approaches , so anything a little creative is considered terrorist or threatening. The scene in the last 6 years has developed that our government, being backed onto its heels, seems to be turning on us , as it has turned on people that oppose it elsewhere also.

This trend dates from the late 1940`s but has accelerated now. It would seem that the overwhelming desire is to preserve what the politicos consider the status normal , rather than try creative approaches , so anything a little creative is considered terrorist or threatening.

]]> By: L Bradley http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/comment-page-1/#comment-23796 L Bradley Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:51:16 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/10/19/the-internet-makes-you-a-terrorist/#comment-23796 Well said! reminds me of this old quote: "Ye' shall know the truth, and it shall make you really, really, mad." Often what's radicalizing people is the rift between highly controlled corporate media (which is a NEW phenomenon due to unprecedented conglomeration) and grass roots sources. They see they are not getting the full story, and it makes them mad. But ultimately, more information from all sources leads to a better all around individual, and maybe being a little radical isn't such a bad thing! :) Well said! reminds me of this old quote: “Ye’ shall know the truth, and it shall make you really, really, mad.” Often what’s radicalizing people is the rift between highly controlled corporate media (which is a NEW phenomenon due to unprecedented conglomeration) and grass roots sources. They see they are not getting the full story, and it makes them mad. But ultimately, more information from all sources leads to a better all around individual, and maybe being a little radical isn’t such a bad thing! :)

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