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	<title>Comments on: Who Is Mike Jones?</title>
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		<title>By: human?</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/07/who-is-mike-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-24670</link>
		<dc:creator>human?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol..

swisha is swisher sweets, cigars...  you use em for rollin herb...

and ballin is having money...  or the act of spending it...

and yeah chopped &#38; screwed is remixed, but basically like playin a 45rpm record on 33rpm, mad slow....

i do like the idea of how easy it is to make connections when you have a narative though :)

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human?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol..</p>
<p>swisha is swisher sweets, cigars&#8230;  you use em for rollin herb&#8230;</p>
<p>and ballin is having money&#8230;  or the act of spending it&#8230;</p>
<p>and yeah chopped &amp; screwed is remixed, but basically like playin a 45rpm record on 33rpm, mad slow&#8230;.</p>
<p>i do like the idea of how easy it is to make connections when you have a narative though <img src='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>one<br />
human?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob K Reist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob K Reist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience,  people see the non-linearity of the process and reduce it to free-association nonsense. 

On those rare occasions that I point out connections in a lucid and organized manner, I usually hit a wall. If I'm lucky, it's blank stares or a change of subject. Other times, I'm percieved to be desulsional, ill, or "high."

I think that those who can detect and process a higher order of coherence out of certain non-linear, multicontextual thinking processes AND function properly in the consensus reality embody what the Temperance Tarot key represents (to me) :it depicts an angel with one foot on the water and one foot on the ground:  http://dim.com/~randl/tree/esa/samech.jpg



JKr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience,  people see the non-linearity of the process and reduce it to free-association nonsense. </p>
<p>On those rare occasions that I point out connections in a lucid and organized manner, I usually hit a wall. If I&#8217;m lucky, it&#8217;s blank stares or a change of subject. Other times, I&#8217;m percieved to be desulsional, ill, or &#8220;high.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that those who can detect and process a higher order of coherence out of certain non-linear, multicontextual thinking processes AND function properly in the consensus reality embody what the Temperance Tarot key represents (to me) :it depicts an angel with one foot on the water and one foot on the ground:  <a href="http://dim.com/~randl/tree/esa/samech.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://dim.com/~randl/tree/esa/samech.jpg'>http://dim.com/~randl/tree/esa/samech.jpg</a></p>
<p>JKr</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Blind</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/07/who-is-mike-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-24584</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Blind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read the title: "Who is Mike Jones?" in the beginning I wondered why you would be talking about a rapper on the website since I listened to that song...a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read the title: &#8220;Who is Mike Jones?&#8221; in the beginning I wondered why you would be talking about a rapper on the website since I listened to that song&#8230;a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/07/who-is-mike-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-24576</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still funny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still funny</p>
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		<title>By: SubstanceM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SubstanceM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the by - Screwed and Chopped is hip hop re-mixing term, for a specific style of re-mixing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the by - Screwed and Chopped is hip hop re-mixing term, for a specific style of re-mixing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/07/who-is-mike-jones/comment-page-1/#comment-24566</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm pretty much 100% sure that comment above is spam, but I think it's so weird that I wanted to keep it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty much 100% sure that comment above is spam, but I think it&#8217;s so weird that I wanted to keep it</p>
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		<title>By: Marina making pictures</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marina making pictures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I agree, this dude aka Jones is some sort of strange.
I guess he is just trying to market himself and his album no metter what.
This story is very entertaining.

Thank you for sharing this story with me !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I agree, this dude aka Jones is some sort of strange.<br />
I guess he is just trying to market himself and his album no metter what.<br />
This story is very entertaining.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing this story with me !</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 06:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cross-posted this to MySpace before posting it here. And received a good response, which I wanted to share. It's from a user named "Angelguts", who writes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia" rel="nofollow"&gt;Apophenia&lt;/a&gt; is the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random ...It has been suggested that apophenia is a link between psychosis and creativity. ...&lt;/em&gt;

Just thought I would let you know that there is an actual word for people who make those types of connections - the difference is that they actually believe the connection is real.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And the response which I wrote:

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Hi Angelguts:

Yes, I'm familiar with the term apophenia, and I have written about it extensively. I recommend checking it out:

http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/13/psychosis-the-occult/

My problem with the standard definition of apophenia is that it usually is given as something like "seeing patterns and connections where none exist". That whole bit about them not existing is rather problematic. Because how can we prove that they don't exist? We can't. And more importantly, we can prove that they *do* exist - simply because we have noticed them.

They may not be ordinary or rational types of connections or patterns, but they are connections and patterns nonetheless. They *exist* when we notice them and don't when we don't.

Furthermore, it could realistically be argued that ALL of human knowledge and consciousness is a form of apophenia - because our entire mental realm is predicated upon drawing connections between things. Even more specifically, on drawing connections between our internal thoughts and emotions to external objects. How can we ever really be sure these outer things actually correlate to our inner states? We can't. We have no way of knowing for sure, because we are trying to measure the instrument with itself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cross-posted this to MySpace before posting it here. And received a good response, which I wanted to share. It&#8217;s from a user named &#8220;Angelguts&#8221;, who writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia" rel="nofollow">Apophenia</a> is the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random &#8230;It has been suggested that apophenia is a link between psychosis and creativity. &#8230;</em></p>
<p>Just thought I would let you know that there is an actual word for people who make those types of connections - the difference is that they actually believe the connection is real.</p></blockquote>
<p>And the response which I wrote:</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Hi Angelguts:</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m familiar with the term apophenia, and I have written about it extensively. I recommend checking it out:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/13/psychosis-the-occult/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/13/psychosis-the-occult/'>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/09/13/psychosis-the-occult/</a></p>
<p>My problem with the standard definition of apophenia is that it usually is given as something like &#8220;seeing patterns and connections where none exist&#8221;. That whole bit about them not existing is rather problematic. Because how can we prove that they don&#8217;t exist? We can&#8217;t. And more importantly, we can prove that they *do* exist - simply because we have noticed them.</p>
<p>They may not be ordinary or rational types of connections or patterns, but they are connections and patterns nonetheless. They *exist* when we notice them and don&#8217;t when we don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it could realistically be argued that ALL of human knowledge and consciousness is a form of apophenia - because our entire mental realm is predicated upon drawing connections between things. Even more specifically, on drawing connections between our internal thoughts and emotions to external objects. How can we ever really be sure these outer things actually correlate to our inner states? We can&#8217;t. We have no way of knowing for sure, because we are trying to measure the instrument with itself!</p>
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