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		<title>By: Animals Get High - [tmbchr]â„¢</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-113145</link>
		<dc:creator>Animals Get High - [tmbchr]â„¢</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Speaking of the internet and how it reveals elements in the collective consciousness of humanity, an old article of mine (2005) is suddenly receiving a large amount of visitors from the website StumbleUpon, an article I wrote about intoxication in the animal kingdom. Another link on the subject I collected comes from Michael Pollan&#8217;s &#8220;Botany of Desire.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Speaking of the internet and how it reveals elements in the collective consciousness of humanity, an old article of mine (2005) is suddenly receiving a large amount of visitors from the website StumbleUpon, an article I wrote about intoxication in the animal kingdom. Another link on the subject I collected comes from Michael Pollan&#8217;s &#8220;Botany of Desire.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JohnEmerson</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24669</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnEmerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No question about that for me as well. On the flip side, I also remember seeing a documentary about people who roamed their town looking for pot smokers to hand over to the cops. I found that distasteful, but the mind boggling part came from the squad's habit of giving beer to their dog after getting back from their drug abuser watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No question about that for me as well. On the flip side, I also remember seeing a documentary about people who roamed their town looking for pot smokers to hand over to the cops. I found that distasteful, but the mind boggling part came from the squad&#8217;s habit of giving beer to their dog after getting back from their drug abuser watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24662</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I think is kind of fucked up though? When stoners "smoke out" their animals via second-hand smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I think is kind of fucked up though? When stoners &#8220;smoke out&#8221; their animals via second-hand smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnEmerson</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24650</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnEmerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've read Samorini's book as well. I'll second the regret on how tiny the book is. It's a sad note on our times that there's not more material on the subject. Currently my copy is sitting within a warehouse a country away, and my memory of it has faded quite a bit. One anecdote that's stuck in my mind though was that rabits showed a very individual take to mescaline containing cacti. Some loved it and would always be counted on to grab any they could find. Others totally shunned it, and wouldn't go near the stuff after their first experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read Samorini&#8217;s book as well. I&#8217;ll second the regret on how tiny the book is. It&#8217;s a sad note on our times that there&#8217;s not more material on the subject. Currently my copy is sitting within a warehouse a country away, and my memory of it has faded quite a bit. One anecdote that&#8217;s stuck in my mind though was that rabits showed a very individual take to mescaline containing cacti. Some loved it and would always be counted on to grab any they could find. Others totally shunned it, and wouldn&#8217;t go near the stuff after their first experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24645</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 07:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why do you think animals would want to alter their consciousness like this? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Same as us? I mean, as a kid, I didn't need a reason to spin around in place until I fell over. Besides, it's healthy -- people who can't dream go nuts and die.

I like the idea that the will to alter consciousness is instinctive. It's probably fairly recently in history that we started to think up reasons for why we do everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why do you think animals would want to alter their consciousness like this? </p></blockquote>
<p>Same as us? I mean, as a kid, I didn&#8217;t need a reason to spin around in place until I fell over. Besides, it&#8217;s healthy &#8212; people who can&#8217;t dream go nuts and die.</p>
<p>I like the idea that the will to alter consciousness is instinctive. It&#8217;s probably fairly recently in history that we started to think up reasons for why we do everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Emick</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24641</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Emick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 05:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6376594

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/30/toad_licking_dog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6376594" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6376594'>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6376594</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/30/toad_licking_dog/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/30/toad_licking_dog/'>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/30/toad_licking_dog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Emick</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24639</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Emick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 05:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You'd be right, Gary- a lot of animal studies have been done that show numerous species medicate..off the top of my head, sheep and most of the great apes, probably more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d be right, Gary- a lot of animal studies have been done that show numerous species medicate..off the top of my head, sheep and most of the great apes, probably more.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an absolutely fascinating and undertold story.  I have often wondered if when my dog is feeling unwell and has a "salad", that is starts eating various green plants we come across during our walks, is he just randomly eating something green or purposely chosen something endowed with healing qualities.  

In hindsight it seems perfectly obvious that his actions are not random.  This post enforces my belief.  Almost my nothing my dog does is without reason, purpose or design.  He almost never acts randomly, now that I think about it.  How absurd of me to think that before.  I must have been rationalizing.

This reminds me of that post Tim made some time ago about his disappointment with an academics particular approach to reasoning.  I think this example falls into that professor's idea.  Before I felt one way - now I am immediately enlightened and feel differently.  I cannot go back to the old way - it seems preposterous.  And though this idea of my dog eating healthful foods might change in the future I did take the instantaneous step the Professor talked about.  

How's that for some interconnectedness of all things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an absolutely fascinating and undertold story.  I have often wondered if when my dog is feeling unwell and has a &#8220;salad&#8221;, that is starts eating various green plants we come across during our walks, is he just randomly eating something green or purposely chosen something endowed with healing qualities.  </p>
<p>In hindsight it seems perfectly obvious that his actions are not random.  This post enforces my belief.  Almost my nothing my dog does is without reason, purpose or design.  He almost never acts randomly, now that I think about it.  How absurd of me to think that before.  I must have been rationalizing.</p>
<p>This reminds me of that post Tim made some time ago about his disappointment with an academics particular approach to reasoning.  I think this example falls into that professor&#8217;s idea.  Before I felt one way - now I am immediately enlightened and feel differently.  I cannot go back to the old way - it seems preposterous.  And though this idea of my dog eating healthful foods might change in the future I did take the instantaneous step the Professor talked about.  </p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for some interconnectedness of all things?</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as outdoor cats enjoy getting high on catnip they don't let it prevent them from hunting for themselves and caring for their kittens, even though it's available for indulgence all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as outdoor cats enjoy getting high on catnip they don&#8217;t let it prevent them from hunting for themselves and caring for their kittens, even though it&#8217;s available for indulgence all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Gyrus</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24608</link>
		<dc:creator>Gyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That said, I think there's some very interesting conclusions about the evolutionary process that will come from this research, which I'm currently too wiped out to speculate on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That said, I think there&#8217;s some very interesting conclusions about the evolutionary process that will come from this research, which I&#8217;m currently too wiped out to speculate on!</p>
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		<title>By: Gyrus</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24606</link>
		<dc:creator>Gyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book on animals and psychedelics by Giorgio Samorini is slim but a great read. He draws heavily on Siegel's work, but brings much of his own research to bear as well. Including a hilarious anecdote about picking psilocybe mushrooms in Italy and being attacked by goats after they saw what he was picking (they devoured the bag of them he'd collected).

Why would animals do this? I wonder if our cultural taboos, legal system, and our narrow view of consciousness in animals are the only reasons we need to ask the question...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book on animals and psychedelics by Giorgio Samorini is slim but a great read. He draws heavily on Siegel&#8217;s work, but brings much of his own research to bear as well. Including a hilarious anecdote about picking psilocybe mushrooms in Italy and being attacked by goats after they saw what he was picking (they devoured the bag of them he&#8217;d collected).</p>
<p>Why would animals do this? I wonder if our cultural taboos, legal system, and our narrow view of consciousness in animals are the only reasons we need to ask the question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24605</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I think I've seen that! Link me if you find it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I think I&#8217;ve seen that! Link me if you find it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Emick</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/08/animal-intoxicants/comment-page-1/#comment-24602</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Emick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, somewhere around here I have a story saved about a dog 'addicted'  to psychadelic toads...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, somewhere around here I have a story saved about a dog &#8216;addicted&#8217;  to psychadelic toads&#8230;</p>
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