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	<title>Comments on: Explaining the &#8220;23&#8243; Phenomenon</title>
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		<title>By: Synchronicity &#38; Brain Hemisphere Communication - Pop Occulture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Synchronicity &#38; Brain Hemisphere Communication - Pop Occulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This to me is just about the perfect explanation of why and how the &#8220;23 phenomenon&#8221; works, or for that matter just about any synchronicity. I feel like people who subscribe to more mystical &#8220;explanations&#8221; of things of this nature may not like the hypothesis I am about to put forth. But since it is a hypothesis, the point is to test it and re-test it under different circumstances, pick it apart and break it down. Or at least that is how science works though. And honestly, I think the best types of mysticism, that&#8217;s all they are: science. Do this and this other thing happens. Very simple. It&#8217;s a cause effect truth exchange. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This to me is just about the perfect explanation of why and how the &#8220;23 phenomenon&#8221; works, or for that matter just about any synchronicity. I feel like people who subscribe to more mystical &#8220;explanations&#8221; of things of this nature may not like the hypothesis I am about to put forth. But since it is a hypothesis, the point is to test it and re-test it under different circumstances, pick it apart and break it down. Or at least that is how science works though. And honestly, I think the best types of mysticism, that&#8217;s all they are: science. Do this and this other thing happens. Very simple. It&#8217;s a cause effect truth exchange. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the reason I think things like the 23 phenomenon or any other obsessive pattern recognition becomes useful as a tool for consciousness modification is the realization that:

If I am only recognizing information from the world which matches the conceptual filters I am applying, then I can change those filters and recognize new patterns of information. Further, if my conceptual filters cause me to select only certain sub-sets of the whole available data, then it follows that my senses are acting in the same way: filtering down to one specific sub-set of available data. Can I begin to modulate my sense perception in the same way which I modulated my conceptual recognition filters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the reason I think things like the 23 phenomenon or any other obsessive pattern recognition becomes useful as a tool for consciousness modification is the realization that:</p>
<p>If I am only recognizing information from the world which matches the conceptual filters I am applying, then I can change those filters and recognize new patterns of information. Further, if my conceptual filters cause me to select only certain sub-sets of the whole available data, then it follows that my senses are acting in the same way: filtering down to one specific sub-set of available data. Can I begin to modulate my sense perception in the same way which I modulated my conceptual recognition filters?</p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is becoming more and more clear that the media programs us to think in certain ways and then we go about creating the reality.............to satisfy the media.

i choose which media to consume and what content to run to the best of my abilities and energy. 

no tv. and no newspapers and absolutely no cbc radio news. and the really hard one, the conversations of certain groups of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is becoming more and more clear that the media programs us to think in certain ways and then we go about creating the reality&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.to satisfy the media.</p>
<p>i choose which media to consume and what content to run to the best of my abilities and energy. </p>
<p>no tv. and no newspapers and absolutely no cbc radio news. and the really hard one, the conversations of certain groups of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Two Source Holographic Time - Pop Occulture Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Two Source Holographic Time - Pop Occulture Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ordinarily, we think of the present, the past and the future all being on the same line in time. But what if they are not? What if each event that exists is a thing unto itself, and the moments which we call &#8220;now&#8221; are more like the &#8220;interference patterns&#8221; where two lasers meet, captured on film in the creation of a hologram? If that&#8217;s the case, then the way that I would imagine our brain/mind might work is by firing the third laser onto the &#8220;film&#8221; which then renders a three dimensional image duplicating the original. It may be a convoluted metaphor, but it may also help us explain such peculiar phenomena as our seeming ability to actively select for certain slices of reality based on what filters our minds are running (more here). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ordinarily, we think of the present, the past and the future all being on the same line in time. But what if they are not? What if each event that exists is a thing unto itself, and the moments which we call &#8220;now&#8221; are more like the &#8220;interference patterns&#8221; where two lasers meet, captured on film in the creation of a hologram? If that&#8217;s the case, then the way that I would imagine our brain/mind might work is by firing the third laser onto the &#8220;film&#8221; which then renders a three dimensional image duplicating the original. It may be a convoluted metaphor, but it may also help us explain such peculiar phenomena as our seeming ability to actively select for certain slices of reality based on what filters our minds are running (more here). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: springhuman</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/11/16/explaining-the-23-phenomenon/comment-page-1/#comment-24988</link>
		<dc:creator>springhuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - one more thing.  Amending the different folks and beliefs - maybe they go through the same process, just with different concerns, ie, religion is set, but relations with others, money, etc. concern them...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry - one more thing.  Amending the different folks and beliefs - maybe they go through the same process, just with different concerns, ie, religion is set, but relations with others, money, etc. concern them&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: springhuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>springhuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm tending towards the meta, the process, rather than the occurrences.

Been feeling like I can't keep up - with posts and podcasts and my other readings and thoughts, can't weave them together in a satisfying way. 

On your podcast about religions as species - I went along up to the point where I saw the blackberry takeover analogy to religious takeovers failing because Christianity was forced on people, often at the barrel of a gun.  My boyfriend said, "But aren't the guns like the blackberry thorns?"   POP

So, ideas are real and exactly like evolving/growing a 3rd eye or 3rd arm or going from hoppers to fliers - an extension of ourselves.  Reminds me also of Graham Hancock's latest book, "Supernatural" where he posits that through ingesting various plants our consciousness evolved. And your cavemen not analyzing their dreams, whereas we now have a feast of ideas about all sorts of things.

Where I'm stuck, or one part of my stuckness:  We hunger for ideas, especially unifying ideas, ala Kuhn, the next worldview or paradigm with which to live and explore - the "hunger" drives this.  Or maybe the obliteration of all of them, if I get you correctly.  But, what is this hunger? 

1) The mental feeling:  Not really pain, though kinda, a dissonance, we can't get with the groove of the different feelings and frequencies that we can even feel as spatial - the different ideas are located - looking up 45 degrees NW, for instance, or ideas/thoughts/memories being released during massage, or the exact location on a dusty road when you first thought and said an idea.   

2)  Is it physical - where, why, how?  Arms and eyes don't hunger, but a system does - the digestive system which involves many different parts and organs.  So, might ideas be a system with many parts distributed and connected throughout our bodies? Just brains in anything mental doesn't sound right, given work like Candace Pert's on the biology of our emotions.  In any event, this feels stinky to me somehow, but if you factor in that some folks are happy to believe in an idea system - period, forever and ever amen, and folks with degrees of such belief and going beyonds, then hmmm.  I can't get past the idea that there's something or somethings that we'll be able to point at that are responsible. 

Next, I'll pay more attention to the synchronicities themselves and see what happens...
Hey, thanks Tim - this is great fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tending towards the meta, the process, rather than the occurrences.</p>
<p>Been feeling like I can&#8217;t keep up - with posts and podcasts and my other readings and thoughts, can&#8217;t weave them together in a satisfying way. </p>
<p>On your podcast about religions as species - I went along up to the point where I saw the blackberry takeover analogy to religious takeovers failing because Christianity was forced on people, often at the barrel of a gun.  My boyfriend said, &#8220;But aren&#8217;t the guns like the blackberry thorns?&#8221;   POP</p>
<p>So, ideas are real and exactly like evolving/growing a 3rd eye or 3rd arm or going from hoppers to fliers - an extension of ourselves.  Reminds me also of Graham Hancock&#8217;s latest book, &#8220;Supernatural&#8221; where he posits that through ingesting various plants our consciousness evolved. And your cavemen not analyzing their dreams, whereas we now have a feast of ideas about all sorts of things.</p>
<p>Where I&#8217;m stuck, or one part of my stuckness:  We hunger for ideas, especially unifying ideas, ala Kuhn, the next worldview or paradigm with which to live and explore - the &#8220;hunger&#8221; drives this.  Or maybe the obliteration of all of them, if I get you correctly.  But, what is this hunger? </p>
<p>1) The mental feeling:  Not really pain, though kinda, a dissonance, we can&#8217;t get with the groove of the different feelings and frequencies that we can even feel as spatial - the different ideas are located - looking up 45 degrees NW, for instance, or ideas/thoughts/memories being released during massage, or the exact location on a dusty road when you first thought and said an idea.   </p>
<p>2)  Is it physical - where, why, how?  Arms and eyes don&#8217;t hunger, but a system does - the digestive system which involves many different parts and organs.  So, might ideas be a system with many parts distributed and connected throughout our bodies? Just brains in anything mental doesn&#8217;t sound right, given work like Candace Pert&#8217;s on the biology of our emotions.  In any event, this feels stinky to me somehow, but if you factor in that some folks are happy to believe in an idea system - period, forever and ever amen, and folks with degrees of such belief and going beyonds, then hmmm.  I can&#8217;t get past the idea that there&#8217;s something or somethings that we&#8217;ll be able to point at that are responsible. </p>
<p>Next, I&#8217;ll pay more attention to the synchronicities themselves and see what happens&#8230;<br />
Hey, thanks Tim - this is great fun!</p>
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		<title>By: p</title>
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		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An example of magickal numerical recurrence:
hxxp://www.maybelogic.org/maybequarterly/01/0112LamenandSigil741.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An example of magickal numerical recurrence:<br />
hxxp://www.maybelogic.org/maybequarterly/01/0112LamenandSigil741.htm</p>
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		<title>By: whatacharacter</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatacharacter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's happening again ....

My wife's birthday is 9/23 and always claimed those numbers reoccur to a stunning degree with amazing frequency, in various guises. I'll concur and state for the record that for the nearly 18 years we've been together, a disproportionate percentage of the time I check the clock, it happens to be 9:23. Whether it's AM or PM I accept it as a given now. We often exchange glances when 23 shows up somewhere ... most recently in the film Stranger than Fiction, when Dustin Hoffman produces his list of 23 questions for Will Ferrell.

It's probably all Grant Morrison's fault ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s happening again &#8230;.</p>
<p>My wife&#8217;s birthday is 9/23 and always claimed those numbers reoccur to a stunning degree with amazing frequency, in various guises. I&#8217;ll concur and state for the record that for the nearly 18 years we&#8217;ve been together, a disproportionate percentage of the time I check the clock, it happens to be 9:23. Whether it&#8217;s AM or PM I accept it as a given now. We often exchange glances when 23 shows up somewhere &#8230; most recently in the film Stranger than Fiction, when Dustin Hoffman produces his list of 23 questions for Will Ferrell.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably all Grant Morrison&#8217;s fault &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: springhuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>springhuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How do you create filters which allow you to select for a reality which you actively want to engage in, as opposed to one that youâ€™re just existing in because that is what you know and what you are accustomed to. And, at some point, how do you allow yourself to disengage altogether with the stories and filters and devices which you place between yourself and reality as it is? And what happens when you start living more fully and with greater intention in that world?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Question 1: This is what we're watching, or rather reading and listening to, you do, and we are too. Because we want to.  But why, and then why don't others, or in degrees?
Q2: Is this your current desire?
Q3: hmm, in the Q2 world?  Are "...stories and filters and devices..." beliefs?

Hey, since we're on the physics thing here, you can watch a 45 minute BBC show called "Parallel Universes" &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4183875433858020781" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (with subtitles, can't find one without...?).  Though I'm not mathematically proficient enough to really understand, I did do quite a bit of follow-up research and it all points to the ideas discussed in the show, specifically on "M-Theory" (a uniting of string theories which insists on multiple universes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How do you create filters which allow you to select for a reality which you actively want to engage in, as opposed to one that youâ€™re just existing in because that is what you know and what you are accustomed to. And, at some point, how do you allow yourself to disengage altogether with the stories and filters and devices which you place between yourself and reality as it is? And what happens when you start living more fully and with greater intention in that world?</p></blockquote>
<p>Question 1: This is what we&#8217;re watching, or rather reading and listening to, you do, and we are too. Because we want to.  But why, and then why don&#8217;t others, or in degrees?<br />
Q2: Is this your current desire?<br />
Q3: hmm, in the Q2 world?  Are &#8220;&#8230;stories and filters and devices&#8230;&#8221; beliefs?</p>
<p>Hey, since we&#8217;re on the physics thing here, you can watch a 45 minute BBC show called &#8220;Parallel Universes&#8221; <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4183875433858020781" rel="nofollow">here</a> (with subtitles, can&#8217;t find one without&#8230;?).  Though I&#8217;m not mathematically proficient enough to really understand, I did do quite a bit of follow-up research and it all points to the ideas discussed in the show, specifically on &#8220;M-Theory&#8221; (a uniting of string theories which insists on multiple universes).</p>
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