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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/06/ai-corporations-intellectual-property/comment-page-1/#comment-25787</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, I have never read the plot summary of that book before - it sounds aweseom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, I have never read the plot summary of that book before - it sounds aweseom</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/06/ai-corporations-intellectual-property/comment-page-1/#comment-25775</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as your main character isn't &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_crash" rel="nofollow"&gt;Hiro Protagonist...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as your main character isn&#8217;t <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_crash" rel="nofollow">Hiro Protagonist&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/06/ai-corporations-intellectual-property/comment-page-1/#comment-25763</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;sounds like Google&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, exactly. I've always believed that Ai will come out of search engine companies sooner than it will come out of a robotics lab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>sounds like Google</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, exactly. I&#8217;ve always believed that Ai will come out of search engine companies sooner than it will come out of a robotics lab.</p>
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		<title>By: ozren</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/06/ai-corporations-intellectual-property/comment-page-1/#comment-25745</link>
		<dc:creator>ozren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 09:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds like Google</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds like Google</p>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/06/ai-corporations-intellectual-property/comment-page-1/#comment-25743</link>
		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... "conversational vignettes between a guy and a girl that have nothing to do with anything"

Famous books have been founded on less ;-D

*

'Making money': is it a silly question to ask how you do that? I can understand money changing hands quite easily. I can understand that changing technology can 'create wealth'. But the total number of dollars in the world appears to be increasing rapidly. Where are they all coming from? Who gets to increase the total number, and who gets the extra ones? Or is this a really dumbass question (cos it doesn't feel like it)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; &#8220;conversational vignettes between a guy and a girl that have nothing to do with anything&#8221;</p>
<p>Famous books have been founded on less ;-D</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>&#8216;Making money&#8217;: is it a silly question to ask how you do that? I can understand money changing hands quite easily. I can understand that changing technology can &#8216;create wealth&#8217;. But the total number of dollars in the world appears to be increasing rapidly. Where are they all coming from? Who gets to increase the total number, and who gets the extra ones? Or is this a really dumbass question (cos it doesn&#8217;t feel like it)?</p>
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		<title>By: skip sievert</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/06/ai-corporations-intellectual-property/comment-page-1/#comment-25735</link>
		<dc:creator>skip sievert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the people that I have ever met regardless of class are mostly still obsessed with money , and also getting more of it.  Thats how most became rich in the first place.

Interesting concept class. It rules our society. It is measured in money.  

People like Sir Peter Maxwell an English billionaire that I communicate with sometimes are incredibly funny with their presentation of themselves.

Recently he said that the lower class`s are meant to be sacrificed in time of war for the greater good of  money makers like himself.  Seriously.

He said that once a year people such as himself buy a red poppy and bow their heads in silence for 2 minutes. Then they get back to the real business of making money. 

He also said he considers the lower class to be like bugs that hit the windscreen of his Rolls Royce. 

He is a real trip. Very honest .  A buddy of Rubert Murdoch. 

If you want some real fun perhaps you could interview Sir Peter Maxwell.  Tell him I sent you.  He doesn`t really like me , but we have had some great and funny arguments.  
If you wanted to interview a billionaire and get his take I bet he would do it. He loves the attention.  
Just an idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the people that I have ever met regardless of class are mostly still obsessed with money , and also getting more of it.  Thats how most became rich in the first place.</p>
<p>Interesting concept class. It rules our society. It is measured in money.  </p>
<p>People like Sir Peter Maxwell an English billionaire that I communicate with sometimes are incredibly funny with their presentation of themselves.</p>
<p>Recently he said that the lower class`s are meant to be sacrificed in time of war for the greater good of  money makers like himself.  Seriously.</p>
<p>He said that once a year people such as himself buy a red poppy and bow their heads in silence for 2 minutes. Then they get back to the real business of making money. </p>
<p>He also said he considers the lower class to be like bugs that hit the windscreen of his Rolls Royce. </p>
<p>He is a real trip. Very honest .  A buddy of Rubert Murdoch. </p>
<p>If you want some real fun perhaps you could interview Sir Peter Maxwell.  Tell him I sent you.  He doesn`t really like me , but we have had some great and funny arguments.<br />
If you wanted to interview a billionaire and get his take I bet he would do it. He loves the attention.<br />
Just an idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe what you're describing about money being able to control people only relates to the lower classes. Certainly those who are fabulously wealthy are not bound by these types of control mechanisms on a personal level - even if they may allow their institutions and businesses to be run according to those rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe what you&#8217;re describing about money being able to control people only relates to the lower classes. Certainly those who are fabulously wealthy are not bound by these types of control mechanisms on a personal level - even if they may allow their institutions and businesses to be run according to those rules.</p>
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		<title>By: skip sievert</title>
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		<dc:creator>skip sievert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All most anyone can be gotten to do almost any thing if enough money is dangled in front of them. 
This presents a problem because when all decisions revolve around getting more of that stuff , generally all decisions are made wrongly.
These wrong choices pile up after time. 

This is the reason why most things never work out right for anybody.  Money. The false hood of money  being a good arbiter of judgement. 

This money is always the final arbiter in this type of society. 
Does it make money.?  If not , it will not be done. 
There are exceptions to this rule , but few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All most anyone can be gotten to do almost any thing if enough money is dangled in front of them.<br />
This presents a problem because when all decisions revolve around getting more of that stuff , generally all decisions are made wrongly.<br />
These wrong choices pile up after time. </p>
<p>This is the reason why most things never work out right for anybody.  Money. The false hood of money  being a good arbiter of judgement. </p>
<p>This money is always the final arbiter in this type of society.<br />
Does it make money.?  If not , it will not be done.<br />
There are exceptions to this rule , but few.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/06/ai-corporations-intellectual-property/comment-page-1/#comment-25730</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the money question, I have been thinking about this a lot. The only thing that I think we really use money for is as an artificial regulator of desire. 

We have all these people who want things. The natural thing to do would just be to take them. It's laughable that the only thing separating us from millions of dollars of electronics equipment is a thin sheet of glass and a loud noise. I mean, that is literally a joke, isn't it!?

And sure there is the threat of police if you do something like that. But the police are really only a symbol of loss of social standing. The flip-side of that is that we're taught that money *gives* us social standing, by allowing us to choose how other people see us by the things that we purchase and surround ourselves with. 

So all money does is it says to us that there is a physical limit to the fulfillment of our desires. And it channels our efforts to fulfill desires into certain socially-prescribed avenues. 

The person who goes out and simply steals money is trying to circumvent this manipulative structure. But they are missing the boat. They are still buying into the larger myth that the money they steal can then allow them to manipulate the opinions of others and of themselves. Whereas the real trick would be to directly work on those areas completely outside of the realm of money or material goods altogether. 

Which is where the materialist says: &lt;em&gt;What realm is that?&lt;/em&gt; And scratches their head. 

I found it interesting when I was reading about the online VR world, SecondLife how they were saying that - I think - the game originally started with no currency. But people got bored with the limitless ability to just go around and do anything. So they created Linden Dollars because people found that to be more "fun" somehow. Because people are accustomed to creatively limiting the fulfillment of their desires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the money question, I have been thinking about this a lot. The only thing that I think we really use money for is as an artificial regulator of desire. </p>
<p>We have all these people who want things. The natural thing to do would just be to take them. It&#8217;s laughable that the only thing separating us from millions of dollars of electronics equipment is a thin sheet of glass and a loud noise. I mean, that is literally a joke, isn&#8217;t it!?</p>
<p>And sure there is the threat of police if you do something like that. But the police are really only a symbol of loss of social standing. The flip-side of that is that we&#8217;re taught that money *gives* us social standing, by allowing us to choose how other people see us by the things that we purchase and surround ourselves with. </p>
<p>So all money does is it says to us that there is a physical limit to the fulfillment of our desires. And it channels our efforts to fulfill desires into certain socially-prescribed avenues. </p>
<p>The person who goes out and simply steals money is trying to circumvent this manipulative structure. But they are missing the boat. They are still buying into the larger myth that the money they steal can then allow them to manipulate the opinions of others and of themselves. Whereas the real trick would be to directly work on those areas completely outside of the realm of money or material goods altogether. </p>
<p>Which is where the materialist says: <em>What realm is that?</em> And scratches their head. </p>
<p>I found it interesting when I was reading about the online VR world, SecondLife how they were saying that - I think - the game originally started with no currency. But people got bored with the limitless ability to just go around and do anything. So they created Linden Dollars because people found that to be more &#8220;fun&#8221; somehow. Because people are accustomed to creatively limiting the fulfillment of their desires.</p>
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		<title>By: pmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...which is a worst case scenario.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

not really that hellish, more of an amusing purgatory, at worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;which is a worst case scenario.</p></blockquote>
<p>not really that hellish, more of an amusing purgatory, at worst.</p>
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		<title>By: skip sievert</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/06/ai-corporations-intellectual-property/comment-page-1/#comment-25719</link>
		<dc:creator>skip sievert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny ,  A corporation already is a fictitious person .  A corporation has more rights than a real person now. 

Definition of a criminal  ;  An individual with predatory interests that can not afford to start a corporation. 

It is assuming , your idea , a future with money , which is a worst case scenario.  

There is of course one question that no machine or human can answer.
 Why. 

Better hurry up and write this , while there still is a future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny ,  A corporation already is a fictitious person .  A corporation has more rights than a real person now. </p>
<p>Definition of a criminal  ;  An individual with predatory interests that can not afford to start a corporation. </p>
<p>It is assuming , your idea , a future with money , which is a worst case scenario.  </p>
<p>There is of course one question that no machine or human can answer.<br />
 Why. </p>
<p>Better hurry up and write this , while there still is a future.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha. Well writing it is the trickier part. Every time I sit down to write things, I just end up writing this conversational vignettes between a guy and a girl that have nothing to do with anything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha. Well writing it is the trickier part. Every time I sit down to write things, I just end up writing this conversational vignettes between a guy and a girl that have nothing to do with anything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds like a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds like a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: slomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>slomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speedbird, I was going to say the &lt;em&gt;exact&lt;/em&gt; same thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speedbird, I was going to say the <em>exact</em> same thing!</p>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure this hasn't already happened? ;-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure this hasn&#8217;t already happened? ;-D</p>
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