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Sovereign Identity
This is a fairly interesting excerpt from a Christian site on the subject of the identity and its sovereignty and the dangers they see this state of affairs as producing.
With mankind as the pinnacle and the undisputed authority, and one’s Identity unassailable, we are left with a whole planet of little sovereigns. Sovereign over what is unclear; the important bit is that nobody can tell a sovereign what to do. A sovereign cannot be called into account. A sovereign cannot be disagreed with because, of course, that denies his Identity, and thus his sovereignty. Everybody is a ruler, but nobody is ruled. The end of this futile experiment is horrific chaos, a taste of which we are beginning to receive. We are descending into nationwide confusion, as ancient Israel did during the time of the Judges: “In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes” (Judges 17:6; 21:25). In Israel, the time of the Judges was a time of national calamity—over and over again.
More thoughts on this later…
December 9th, 2006 at 10:08 am
Its that free will concept right. ?
You are free to do whatever you like ; you need only face the consequences. Your freedom stops at the end of your fist , if it makes contact with another.
People are afraid of freedom and responsibility , so they prefer to hide behind the prison bars which they build around themselves.
Religion tends to want to control with belief. Belief is opinion. It can`t be measured , therefore it does not exist. There is no accounting for belief. This is as it should be.
December 9th, 2006 at 10:25 am
Contrasts with the recent comment you made about Jesus telling people they are god, god is within them. It made me think of the idea that if everyone is a king, then there would no reason for kingdoms, rulers. This “christian” site’s blurb is the opposite, fearful of the idea that each is his own king, or his own piece of god, thinking it best that kings lead masses of directionless oafs. Seems like a big gap to bridge.
December 9th, 2006 at 11:17 am
well, the can of worms is about to be opened……………….
www.adventuresinlegalland.com
and i just finished reading an article in paranoia magazine about the strawman that we believe is our true identity in consumer society……….and entering into contracts with corporations that we believe have our best interests in mind. like the government.
December 9th, 2006 at 11:23 am
Whoa. How did this rule come to be?
Depends what you mean by accounting. Values are essentially placeholders. But so are beliefs. A belief, like any idea not based on objectively viewable fact, has as natural a function in human cognition as does a scientific idea. You can think of subjective ideas as the unmissable realm between the absolute and the objective. The trick is to recognize them as such (see OS012 )
Sorry if I interpreted your post incorrectly, Skip.
December 9th, 2006 at 12:12 pm
BELIEF SYSTEM & SCIENCE
How is it that one can equate science as a belief system.?
A belief system is supported by nothing more than opinion.
Science is nothing more than the prediction of the next most likely or probable.
Any belief system is supported by nothing except imagination, while the next most probable is supported by observation of some phenomenon that can be recreated under the same conditions by anyone, at any time. This is science. This is how fact is established.
One can imagine anything, however it can only become science when it can be measured, i.e. detected either directly or remotely. Failing this it simply does not exist.
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This interesting breakdown of the two was written by Dean Cameron recently. Dean is an advocate of the installation of a Technocracy or Technate for North America as envisioned by the Technical Alliance.
I think it does a good job with that issue. I liked your comment fuj.
December 9th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
I’m actually not sure how to bridge this gap either, but at the same time I feel like it definitely is bridgeable and I am beginning to see the outlines of how to do it. Give me some more time to mull this over.
Oh god, seriously. Can we stop having this conversation already? It’s so worn out that I just don’t have the energy or interest in that subject any more.
December 10th, 2006 at 11:04 am
The gap is bridged without effort and without explanation by inhabitants of wilderness.
December 11th, 2006 at 11:40 am
I feel the cautionary tale of Belshazzar is somehow relevant (Chapter 5 of the book of Daniel, in case you’re wondering.) And verse 6 is a /stonking/ example of that thing about ancient writing styles you were on about a few posts ago. I quote from an online KJV, ‘cos it’s just /so cool/:
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‘Then the king’s countenance was changed,
and his thoughts troubled him,
so that the joints of his loins were loosed,
and his knees smote one against another.’