Comments on: Coney Island Cut-Out Consciousness http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:25:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: jlhart7 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28881 jlhart7 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:30:01 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28881 <blockquote>Well I think we have a lot of problems with the word fascism nowadays and trying to equate things with it. Simply put, fascism is fascism - nothing else.</blockquote> Very true. They say the first person to mention the Nazis in an argument loses, ha ha. Anyway, I was just saying what my professor had said -- and he was talking about fascist fascists and Nazi Nazis of the original varieties.

Well I think we have a lot of problems with the word fascism nowadays and trying to equate things with it. Simply put, fascism is fascism - nothing else.

Very true. They say the first person to mention the Nazis in an argument loses, ha ha. Anyway, I was just saying what my professor had said — and he was talking about fascist fascists and Nazi Nazis of the original varieties.

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28786 Tim Boucher Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:40:56 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28786 <blockquote>that action instead of thought was fascist because of the whole not thinking critically about your leader’s orders thing.</blockquote> Well I think we have a lot of problems with the word fascism nowadays and trying to equate things with it. Simply put, fascism is fascism - nothing else. More to your point though: If you were to truly be "headless" I'm guessing you wouldn't even recognize a leader at all though... PS. The exercises on that Headless.org website linked above are AWESOME

that action instead of thought was fascist because of the whole not thinking critically about your leader’s orders thing.

Well I think we have a lot of problems with the word fascism nowadays and trying to equate things with it. Simply put, fascism is fascism - nothing else.

More to your point though: If you were to truly be “headless” I’m guessing you wouldn’t even recognize a leader at all though…

PS. The exercises on that Headless.org website linked above are AWESOME

]]> By: fuj http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28681 fuj Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:56:40 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28681 4 Worlds, if you count that fiery disk on the horizon. 4 Worlds, if you count that fiery disk on the horizon.

]]> By: Joe Chip http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28581 Joe Chip Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:52:55 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28581 There's <a href="http://www.bluecatsden.com/tqnswords.jpg" rel="nofollow">this, too.</a> There’s this, too.

]]> By: p http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28580 p Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:49:51 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28580 I think On Having No Head might have been my first introduction to buddhism, I got the coolest paperback of it from the thrift store. The cover was white and blank, and had a head-shaped cutout in it so the title page could show through. I think On Having No Head might have been my first introduction to buddhism, I got the coolest paperback of it from the thrift store. The cover was white and blank, and had a head-shaped cutout in it so the title page could show through.

]]> By: jlhart7 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28579 jlhart7 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:35:59 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28579 <blockquote>Emphasizing action over thought doesn’t sound so nasty to me:</blockquote> No, it's not, I agree. I guess the point was (and I heard this all second-hand) that action <em><strong>instead of</strong></em> thought was fascist because of the whole not thinking critically about your leader's orders thing. I dunno if Bataille's ties to fascism's roots are real; that's what I heard, and I certainly would want to emphasizes not thinking critically about that. :-)

Emphasizing action over thought doesn’t sound so nasty to me:

No, it’s not, I agree. I guess the point was (and I heard this all second-hand) that action instead of thought was fascist because of the whole not thinking critically about your leader’s orders thing.

I dunno if Bataille’s ties to fascism’s roots are real; that’s what I heard, and I certainly would want to emphasizes not thinking critically about that. :-)

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28572 Tim Boucher Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:22:22 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28572 Yeah I keep meaning to look at that - thanks! Yeah I keep meaning to look at that - thanks!

]]> By: Avi Solomon http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28571 Avi Solomon Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:15:20 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28571 You might find Douglas Harding's <a href="http://www.headless.org/english-new/biography.htm" rel="nofollow">'Headless'</a> experiments intriguing: You might find Douglas Harding’s ‘Headless’ experiments intriguing:

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28475 Tim Boucher Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:49:27 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28475 Emphasizing action over thought doesn't sound so nasty to me: http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/07/making-it-happen/ In fact, on the white board over my desk, I have written in all caps right now "TO KNOW THROUGH ACTION" Emphasizing action over thought doesn’t sound so nasty to me:

http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/07/making-it-happen/

In fact, on the white board over my desk, I have written in all caps right now “TO KNOW THROUGH ACTION”

]]> By: jlhart7 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28474 jlhart7 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:34:21 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28474 I remember learning a few years ago that Bataille was an anarcho-syndicalist who also (paradoxically?) influenced fascism and Nazism with his emphasis on action over thought. I might not be remembering that exactly right, and as I type this, I haven't gone searching the net about it. I remember learning a few years ago that Bataille was an anarcho-syndicalist who also (paradoxically?) influenced fascism and Nazism with his emphasis on action over thought. I might not be remembering that exactly right, and as I type this, I haven’t gone searching the net about it.

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28471 Tim Boucher Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:47:11 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28471 Huh? How does that Bible quote relate? Another thing that just struck me regarding these cut-out beach images. Each of them features a man and woman touching. The beach itself is a similar union of water and earth touching. Most of them typically feature the sky in it as well - the juncture of the Three Worlds. I wonder if you might interpret the empty spaces for the heads of people to be stuck in esoterically as the nostrils: two holes through which life passes. Huh? How does that Bible quote relate?

Another thing that just struck me regarding these cut-out beach images. Each of them features a man and woman touching. The beach itself is a similar union of water and earth touching. Most of them typically feature the sky in it as well - the juncture of the Three Worlds. I wonder if you might interpret the empty spaces for the heads of people to be stuck in esoterically as the nostrils: two holes through which life passes.

]]> By: Slowdive http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28470 Slowdive Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:22:37 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28470 "And I tell you, make friends for yourselves by means of unrighteous mammon, so that when it fails they may receive you into the eternal habitations." (Luke 16:9) What's this mean? “And I tell you, make friends for yourselves by means of unrighteous mammon, so that when it fails they may receive you into the eternal habitations.” (Luke 16:9)

What’s this mean?

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28462 Tim Boucher Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:18:00 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28462 That Disch piece is AMAZING! Fits perfectly into my next podcast posting tomorrow. That Disch piece is AMAZING! Fits perfectly into my next podcast posting tomorrow.

]]> By: p http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28460 p Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:17:05 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28460 <a href="http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/text/head.html" rel="nofollow">Fun With Your New HEAD</a> by Tom Disch Fun With Your New HEAD by Tom Disch

]]> By: Rev Max http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28401 Rev Max Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:56:58 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28401 BTW you might also dig "<a href="http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/glor_010/solar.htm" rel="nofollow">The Solar Anus</a>" BTW you might also dig “The Solar Anus“

]]> By: Rev Max http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/comment-page-1/#comment-28396 Rev Max Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:54:01 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/18/coney-island-cut-out-consciousness/#comment-28396 Once I was walking down the street in Bratislave, Slovakia, with some friends, and we smoked a joint, which was something I hadn't sone in years. As I walked, I was vidividly transported through space and time to other occasions on which I had been walking down the street with friends - in cleveland, in upstate NY, in Texas... I found myself returning to different points in space and time for a moment or too and reliving certain seemingly trivial memories of walking down the street as though I was right there i had the sensation that my consciousness was something that had been lowered into a cyclinder which was revolving around me - the metaphor of "a lantern covered by a shroud perforated by an infinite number of tiny slits" is very apt - the slits were different pinnts in space and time and/or memories I 'm not really "here" this is just the slit I happen to be loooking through right now Or maybe I'm here, or in otther words, yes I am looking through this slit They grew heads, hmmmm.... Once I was walking down the street in Bratislave, Slovakia, with some friends, and we smoked a joint, which was something I hadn’t sone in years.

As I walked, I was vidividly transported through space and time to other occasions on which I had been walking down the street with friends - in cleveland, in upstate NY, in Texas… I found myself returning to different points in space and time for a moment or too and reliving certain seemingly trivial memories of walking down the street as though I was right there

i had the sensation that my consciousness was something that had been lowered into a cyclinder which was revolving around me - the metaphor of “a lantern covered by a shroud perforated by an infinite number of tiny slits” is very apt - the slits were different pinnts in space and time and/or memories

I ‘m not really “here” this is just the slit I happen to be loooking through right now

Or maybe

I’m here, or in otther words, yes I am looking through this slit

They grew heads, hmmmm….

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