Comments on: Baptism Originally a Near-Death Experience? http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:57:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: solxyz http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-29136 solxyz Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:36:59 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/#comment-29136 Very interesting. Anyone have information on how to judge just how long to hold someone under without actually drowning them? Anyone want to try it and report back? Im not in a good situation for any rituals right now, but I might try it in a few months. Very interesting. Anyone have information on how to judge just how long to hold someone under without actually drowning them? Anyone want to try it and report back? Im not in a good situation for any rituals right now, but I might try it in a few months.

]]> By: Jennifer Emick http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-28992 Jennifer Emick Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:38:55 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/#comment-28992 Cool beans...the mithraic rite is covered by Vermasseren, swomewhere is an online edition...there was a lot of highly symbolic ritual (some will sound familiar to you) and some was very similar to a rebirthing ritual. At eleusis there was just an onslaught...trance, dancing, ritual plays, drugs... A really great read would be metamorphoses (apuleius), which is describes an initiation into the cult of Isis (well, the outcome, in any case) Cool beans…the mithraic rite is covered by Vermasseren, swomewhere is an online edition…there was a lot of highly symbolic ritual (some will sound familiar to you) and some was very similar to a rebirthing ritual. At eleusis there was just an onslaught…trance, dancing, ritual plays, drugs…

A really great read would be metamorphoses (apuleius), which is describes an initiation into the cult of Isis (well, the outcome, in any case)

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-28798 Tim Boucher Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:02:39 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/#comment-28798 No I've only ever heard vague-ish things about those! But I think its covered soon in the book I'm reading... No I’ve only ever heard vague-ish things about those! But I think its covered soon in the book I’m reading…

]]> By: Jennifer Emick http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-28795 Jennifer Emick Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:52:17 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/19/baptism-originally-a-near-death-experience/#comment-28795 Oh, absoolutely...have you read about the ordeals at eleusis, or what the Mithraic initiated endured? When they said "born again," they really meant it! Oh, absoolutely…have you read about the ordeals at eleusis, or what the Mithraic initiated endured? When they said “born again,” they really meant it!

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