Comments on: If Thine Eye Be Single http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/ public domain playground. friendly entities welcome. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: jlhart7 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/comment-page-1/#comment-30007 jlhart7 Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:50:05 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/#comment-30007 <blockquote>I think this ecological concept of doing it [<em>ie, magic</em>] in order to find your place within the multiplicity of many worlds and entities may be an especially interesting one</blockquote> You said this, Tim, in your post "Why Magick?" That's what I'm more-or-less arguing. What I'd argue is that we alter consciousness and junk so that we can act as we should in the universe around us, which seems to be what you said in the quote above. Sorry about busting everyone's balls over this -- maybe not very moral of me? hee hee I guess I'm primarily concerned about morality because I want to avoid cosmic punishment for doing the wrong things. If it doesn't help me avoid cosmic punishment for my sins, I don't see the practical need for spirituality or the near-insanity of trying to <em>pay attention</em> to every motherfucking moment. Any input, or am I just being dumb again?

I think this ecological concept of doing it [ie, magic] in order to find your place within the multiplicity of many worlds and entities may be an especially interesting one

You said this, Tim, in your post “Why Magick?” That’s what I’m more-or-less arguing. What I’d argue is that we alter consciousness and junk so that we can act as we should in the universe around us, which seems to be what you said in the quote above. Sorry about busting everyone’s balls over this — maybe not very moral of me? hee hee

I guess I’m primarily concerned about morality because I want to avoid cosmic punishment for doing the wrong things. If it doesn’t help me avoid cosmic punishment for my sins, I don’t see the practical need for spirituality or the near-insanity of trying to pay attention to every motherfucking moment. Any input, or am I just being dumb again?

]]> By: jlhart7 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/comment-page-1/#comment-30006 jlhart7 Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:38:42 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/#comment-30006 Again, I can't help but think that putting the "experiencing of reality" to be the goal of ethical behavior -- rather than the other way around -- is putting the cart before the horse. Again, I can’t help but think that putting the “experiencing of reality” to be the goal of ethical behavior — rather than the other way around — is putting the cart before the horse.

]]> By: A. Random http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/comment-page-1/#comment-29935 A. Random Mon, 25 Dec 2006 05:18:21 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/#comment-29935 maybe I'm just missing something, but.... looking through one eye? now I'm not christian, and have never read Matthew 6:22 before tonight, but it strikes me as one of those "one foot in heaven, one foot in hell" types of things... you can't take two paths, you have to pick one, and if that one is "seeing" the glory of god, you're full of his light... 'course this is only my interpretation, and as I've said, I'm by no means a scholar... I can say that I physically see out of two eyes, I can tell this by looking at my nose from either side or squinting one eye, etc... my field of view overlaps, yes, but that doesn't mean I'm looking through a single eye... or am I just being obtuse and missing some deeper meaning that you're all driving at? maybe I’m just missing something, but…. looking through one eye? now I’m not christian, and have never read Matthew 6:22 before tonight, but it strikes me as one of those “one foot in heaven, one foot in hell” types of things… you can’t take two paths, you have to pick one, and if that one is “seeing” the glory of god, you’re full of his light… ‘course this is only my interpretation, and as I’ve said, I’m by no means a scholar… I can say that I physically see out of two eyes, I can tell this by looking at my nose from either side or squinting one eye, etc… my field of view overlaps, yes, but that doesn’t mean I’m looking through a single eye… or am I just being obtuse and missing some deeper meaning that you’re all driving at?

]]> By: Jennifer Emick http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/comment-page-1/#comment-29450 Jennifer Emick Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:21:59 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/#comment-29450 Mark, WTF?! Anyhow, Tim, I just wanted to mention I was on BB this morning and they were recommending a book called 'Losing our heads,' big gory image of JTB on the cover...thought you'd get a kick out of that. Mark, WTF?!

Anyhow, Tim, I just wanted to mention I was on BB this morning and they were recommending a book called ‘Losing our heads,’ big gory image of JTB on the cover…thought you’d get a kick out of that.

]]> By: Mark S. http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/comment-page-1/#comment-29194 Mark S. Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:13:58 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/#comment-29194 Tim, come back with me. Oh, Christ, Tim, come back. Please. [leaves] Tim, you gave her hope. You gave her hope! You can't walk away. I had to, to get to the boy. He'd been violated. She didn't do it. She couldn't have. We have to help. ------------------------- Tim, You soothe your conscience with grand phrases, but it's a weak, contemptible man who trades in the lives of others. Tim, come back with me. Oh, Christ, Tim, come back. Please. [leaves]

Tim, you gave her hope. You gave her hope! You can’t walk away.

I had to, to get to the boy. He’d been violated. She didn’t do it. She couldn’t have. We have to help.
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Tim, You soothe your conscience with grand phrases, but it’s a weak, contemptible man who trades in the lives of others.

]]> By: p http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/comment-page-1/#comment-29134 p Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:15:03 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/#comment-29134 Rendering it <i>where?</i> Rendering it where?

]]> By: John http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/comment-page-1/#comment-29131 John Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:22:30 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/#comment-29131 I like Dawkins' explaination better. It's our brain's "software" rendering the world around us from the input of both eyes. I like Dawkins’ explaination better. It’s our brain’s “software” rendering the world around us from the input of both eyes.

]]> By: Tim Boucher http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/comment-page-1/#comment-28802 Tim Boucher Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:28:16 +0000 http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/12/21/if-thine-eye-be-single/#comment-28802 Also: <blockquote>It is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. - Jesus</blockquote> Also:

It is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. - Jesus

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